Snow White (F1 pb) x Brown Based Red (F1)

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[Wes]

Rick, You got both ends of the color spectrum cover with that pair. Any idea on what the off spring gonna be?

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Rick, You got both ends of the color spectrum cover with that pair. Any idea on what the off spring gonna be?

Yup. Although the female is very dark with fry at the moment she is a very red brown. The fry break down will be:

50% White based fry, the majoriity of which will be red/whites, with the possibility of some snow whites.
50% Brown based fry, this will be an assortment of turqs and solid browns with red, and pigeon bloods. Any brown based fry which also inherited the pb gene will most likely be culls, but will very in pattern.

Also, in theory, 25% of both groups will be albino's, but in practice this seldom holds true as the albino's are weaker and don't alway make it to attachment.

[Rex82]

Where does the pigeon blood come from? They are both brown based strains I thought?

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[Bud Smith]

I will be very interested in how these guys look at 4 inches - keep the pics coming

[blueluv]

Wow! Those are a lot of fry.. job well done. Hobbyist such as yourself and many others here on simply discus who take their hobby serious really give me inspiration to take my hobby to that next level. I'm no were near that level yet, but hopefully someday I will.

[DiscusLoverJeff]

Very nice looking fry Rick. Good question was asked, where does the pigeon come from? Will any be 14 bar?

[nc0gnet0]

Most of the snow whites out there carry the pb gene, mine is no exception. It is not neccessary for them to carry it (pb gene) for them to be a snow white.

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[timmy82]

Looking good. Snow whites seem to be a good strain to work with and cross. I'm still figuring out a lot with the genetics part and enjoy seeing your post Rick. I have just had my pair male snow white cross ring leopard get attachment so looking foeward to seeing how they come along.

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[DiscusLoverJeff]

Rick thoughs guys are beautiful. You shipping? Lol

[CrazyAngels]

Wow the one in the last 2 pictures is a very nice discus. Reminds me a bit like the pattern on my Cheetah.

[nc0gnet0]

Wow the one in the last 2 pictures is a very nice discus. Reminds me a bit like the pattern on my Cheetah.

Thanks, I really like that one so far as well, but what I find most interesting is the first two pictures with the fry with the red stress bars......look close.

[LGelb]

Are you selling any of these

[CrazyAngels]

Thanks, I really like that one so far as well, but what I find most interesting is the first two pictures with the fry with the red stress bars......look close.

You're right, now I wonder if they will remain or fade away like parents. Interesting point to watch over next few months.

[bornlooser]

Interesting Rick.....did not know that the SW may carry the PB ,I have a SW Male and did a similar cross ,but all the F1 were Red-Whites.....if the SW carries the PB gene, crossing it with a PB will not have the "peppering " issue ,i presume.
anaz

[nc0gnet0]

Interesting Rick.....did not know that the SW may carry the PB ,I have a SW Male and did a similar cross ,but all the F1 were Red-Whites.....if the SW carries the PB gene, crossing it with a PB will not have the "peppering " issue ,i presume.

That would tell us that your SW was homozygous for the SW gene, where as mine was Heterozygous. Also, just like the albino gene, The SW gene will mask the pepper.

[the20tonknuckler]

Another awesome cross. Will any be for sale?

[bornlooser]

Thanks ,Rick.

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I apologize for the blurry pics, was playing around with the flash off. Gves a much better representation of color, but the shutter speed is too slow.

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[fisher]

good cross

[timmy82]

They have turned out quiet clean for the cross. I am growing out a good lot of my SW x Leaopard they also appearing very clean and well patterned.

[OC Discus]

Rick,

With all the crosses you've done, you must have a huge display tank with a variety of fish never seen before. Do you have a tank full of your favorites or are they all paired up? Would love to see some pics of your favorite offspring of different types.

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