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pHii
07-28-2013, 11:04 AM
This is my first discus tank after 4 months!! 17 discus and 1 black angle fish in 90g! Water change 20% once a week!!

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Lucki i didnt give up!! :D

camuth8
07-28-2013, 12:26 PM
I think you'll need to be doing more than 20% w/c once a week with that much discus in there + juveniles. At least 4 50% water changes a week! Another "rule" that we have is for 10g per adult discus. You have 17 discus in a 90g tank which goes back to more w/c. The discus are beautiful, though. Just think about how you're taking care of them.:)

zchauvin
07-28-2013, 12:28 PM
Make sure to fill out a disease questionnaire first....


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camuth8
07-28-2013, 12:32 PM
Make sure to fill out a disease questionnaire first....


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Yes, do that, too. Don't want too much ammonia or nitrate build-up in there. Wouldn't want your fish to start dying off.

zchauvin
07-28-2013, 12:33 PM
Yes, do that, too. Don't want too much ammonia or nitrate build-up in there. Wouldn't want your fish to start dying off.

I can just see it coming....


Not to mention I'm pretty sure that's holy rock and aragonite I see in there....

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pHii
07-28-2013, 02:26 PM
They are sick? I've been doing this for 2 month!! They eat a lot and never head down or hiding in the corner like when I 1st bought them!!

zchauvin
07-28-2013, 03:23 PM
They are sick? I've been doing this for 2 month!! They eat a lot and never head down or hiding in the corner like when I 1st bought them!!

Your tank is too small for the amount of fish you have and the sizes are to diverse. Your water changes are lacking tremendously for what you should be feeding, if you fed correctly your fish would suffer from water quality. Your fish will become stunted with less food/if you feed more they will get sick without more space and water changes. It's going to be one or the other... Your fish will suffer from your inexperience and lack of knowledge but at the end of day they are yours.


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a volar
07-28-2013, 03:32 PM
Yep.... too many fish and too little water changes....... Up your water changes at least.

Pat_K
07-28-2013, 03:32 PM
I too am new to discus. Still working on setting up a new 187 gallon, 60X24X30. Is there a concern with using holey rock or lace rock or aragonite

zchauvin
07-28-2013, 03:37 PM
I too am new to discus. Still working on setting up a new 187 gallon, 60X24X30. Is there a concern with using holey rock or lace rock or aragonite

It is made for African cichlids and is very alkaline. It will keep your water very hard and ph high.


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camuth8
07-28-2013, 03:47 PM
Don't want your discus getting stunted. Either get a bigger tank or up the water changes.

Have you been testing your water? I'd guess that your ammonia and nitrates will be very high with the amount your feeding them and the lack of water changes. Try to test your water and then do more water changes. Your pH must be high too, according to Zach.

pHii
07-28-2013, 04:34 PM
Then I will remove those rock! Do u think driftwood and 1-2plant gonna be better?

zchauvin
07-28-2013, 04:43 PM
Then I will remove those rock! Do u think driftwood and 1-2plant gonna be better?

Get rid of the substrate also and put pool filter sand... Very cheap, and yes 1-2 large pieces of driftwood would do nice


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camuth8
07-28-2013, 07:43 PM
Driftwood and the plants will be much better. Driftwood will slowly lower your pH, too.

Skip
07-28-2013, 10:45 PM
yep.. substrate is no bueno..

looks just like aragonite..

pHii
07-28-2013, 11:42 PM
but white gravel are easy to clean!!

timmylucas
07-28-2013, 11:51 PM
Made the same mistake putting substrate in my first discus aquarium. Makes water changes a little more difficult. They put out a lot more waste then you would think. Good luck with your fishes! They look great

camuth8
07-28-2013, 11:54 PM
but white gravel are easy to clean!!

It is easier to see all the poop and things, but gravel keeps all the crap and stuff under it that you won't get with the siphon. It is another reason for high ammonia and nitrates. Sand is the best substrate or even easier, is barebottom.

pHii
07-29-2013, 12:23 AM
thank you very much!!

farebox
07-29-2013, 07:27 AM
Just take all the advise given and you have an better living environment for your fish. Until you able to get a larger setup, I would go bare bottom and at least 3 large water changes weekly. Nice fish good luck with them, do it for the fish!