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adnan012
09-19-2013, 11:02 AM
Last day i lost one of my 3 inch discus. I found it breathing very heavy and it was jumping toward water surface and tried to stay at the surface. I provided it 2 minute potassium per-magnate bath (diluted and with strong aeration) and moved it to hospital tank with salt and methylene blue but did not see any relief. She tried to stay near the air stone or at the surface. But found it dead in the morning. Before illness she was very active and healthy.

My algae eater (pleco) which has grown to almost 8 inch some times try to lick discus. Is it harmful to discus?

Can any one explain the reason.


Problem

1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?

I noticed last evening that one of my 3 inch discus was breathing very fast and was jumping toward water surface. Other 9 discus very showing less heavy breathing.


2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).


Very heavy gill movement , jumping towards water surface with or without darting , wanted to stay at surface , eyes cloudy.

3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.

Moved to other tank with same temperature , add salt and methylene Blue. Add strong aeration.

Also give fish a 2 minute potassium per-magnate bath in another container.



Tank/Water

4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.

65 gallon, 3 to 4 inch 9 discus

5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).

50% per week

6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?

Running from last 1 and a half moth on a newly added canister filter with media and zeolite (did 50 % water change every 4th day during first 30 days ), Bare Bottom


7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.



8. Parameters and water source;

Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.


- temp __30___

- ph __7.5___

- ammonia reading ____

- nitrite reading ____

- nitrate reading ____

What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.

- well water _0___

- municipal water __100%__

- RO water __0__


9. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.

A small water Lilly plant , two bala shark , and an algae eater (8 inch)


10. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them.

strawberryblonde
09-19-2013, 11:44 AM
1) Remove the algae eater and the bala sharks immediately!

2) Perform a 50% water change immediately

3) Perform another 50% water change tonight

4) Buy a test kit for Ammonia, Nitrites and Nitrates. Post your results here.

5) Test your water each morning and if you see ANY Ammonia or Nitrites do an immediate 50% water change.

After you've done the water changes today, do a 60% water change every single day and be sure to test the ammonia and nitrites every day, then do MORE water changes if they aren't zero.

William Palumbo
09-19-2013, 12:25 PM
A PP dip/bath on a fish already struggling to breathe not smart, and is no doubt what killed it...Bill

Madaboutdiscus
09-19-2013, 12:39 PM
1) Remove the algae eater and the bala sharks immediately!

2) Perform a 50% water change immediately

3) Perform another 50% water change tonight

4) Buy a test kit for Ammonia, Nitrites and Nitrates. Post your results here.

5) Test your water each morning and if you see ANY Ammonia or Nitrites do an immediate 50% water change.

After you've done the water changes today, do a 60% water change every single day and be sure to test the ammonia and nitrites every day, then do MORE water changes if they aren't zero.

+1

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Madaboutdiscus
09-19-2013, 12:40 PM
A PP dip/bath on a fish already struggling to breathe not smart, and is no doubt what killed it...Bill

Thats what I was thinking too.

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