dillpickle
10-03-2013, 10:58 AM
Problem
1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?
Fry: Fry are dying. That is all that I notice wrong...They all eat well and are very active. Then one or two fry will start swimming at the surface with their head up, gasping for air sometimes turning sideways until they die then they go to the bottom. The fry are around 2-3cm.
Parents: Still spawning, active, healthy, eating normally, but I am noticing they are steadily losing weight.
2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).
Fry: None...Although an odd thing I noticed was when I was feeding white worms, I noticed a white worm crawling out the anus of a dead fry.
Parents: Losing weight
3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.
None, but increased water changes on the fry.
Tank/Water
4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.
Parents: 37gal, 2 golden pigeons for breeding. Going for while now... 7-8 months maybe?
Fry: 10 gal, 70-80 fry, 40% water change morning or afternoon, 80% at night.
5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).
Parents: 50% every 2-3 days
Fry: 40% morning or afternoon, 80% at night
6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?
All tanks are barebottom
Fry tank has been going for maybe 3.5-4 weeks, parents fro maybe around 7-8 months.
7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.
Parents: 1/5 tap 4/5 RO. Gives me a TDS of around 50-70 TDS
Fry: 100% Tap.
Goes from around 8.1-8.2 down to around 7.8
8. Parameters and water source;
Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.
- temp 85 for parents, and 86-87 for grow out tank
- ph 7.2 parents, 7.8-7.7 fry tank
- ammonia reading 0ppm
- nitrite reading 0ppm
- nitrate reading: less than 10ppm breeding tank, always below 5ppm for grow-out tank, usually 3-4 before water change.
What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.
- well water ____
- municipal water 100% for growout tanks, 1/5 tap for parents
- RO water 4/5 RO for parents
9. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.
No.
10. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them.[/B][/B][/B][/B]
Not really anything to show...
I have noticed the weight loss ever since i started feeding a shrimp, cod, and beef heart mix. Also, i have what I believe to be a population of water fleas (maybe dahpina) living in the tank. Also I occasionally see these small worms (less than 1 cm) that sometimes have a population bloom. I believe these to be detritus worms of some type.
Any help appreciated.
1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?
Fry: Fry are dying. That is all that I notice wrong...They all eat well and are very active. Then one or two fry will start swimming at the surface with their head up, gasping for air sometimes turning sideways until they die then they go to the bottom. The fry are around 2-3cm.
Parents: Still spawning, active, healthy, eating normally, but I am noticing they are steadily losing weight.
2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).
Fry: None...Although an odd thing I noticed was when I was feeding white worms, I noticed a white worm crawling out the anus of a dead fry.
Parents: Losing weight
3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.
None, but increased water changes on the fry.
Tank/Water
4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.
Parents: 37gal, 2 golden pigeons for breeding. Going for while now... 7-8 months maybe?
Fry: 10 gal, 70-80 fry, 40% water change morning or afternoon, 80% at night.
5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).
Parents: 50% every 2-3 days
Fry: 40% morning or afternoon, 80% at night
6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?
All tanks are barebottom
Fry tank has been going for maybe 3.5-4 weeks, parents fro maybe around 7-8 months.
7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.
Parents: 1/5 tap 4/5 RO. Gives me a TDS of around 50-70 TDS
Fry: 100% Tap.
Goes from around 8.1-8.2 down to around 7.8
8. Parameters and water source;
Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.
- temp 85 for parents, and 86-87 for grow out tank
- ph 7.2 parents, 7.8-7.7 fry tank
- ammonia reading 0ppm
- nitrite reading 0ppm
- nitrate reading: less than 10ppm breeding tank, always below 5ppm for grow-out tank, usually 3-4 before water change.
What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.
- well water ____
- municipal water 100% for growout tanks, 1/5 tap for parents
- RO water 4/5 RO for parents
9. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.
No.
10. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them.[/B][/B][/B][/B]
Not really anything to show...
I have noticed the weight loss ever since i started feeding a shrimp, cod, and beef heart mix. Also, i have what I believe to be a population of water fleas (maybe dahpina) living in the tank. Also I occasionally see these small worms (less than 1 cm) that sometimes have a population bloom. I believe these to be detritus worms of some type.
Any help appreciated.