My 15 red turquoise discus and one spotted swimming in 1000 litres of Dutch water. [Archive]

Wildcaught dutchman

10-20-2013, 04:25 AM

Some of you might know me from a former topic about mu wildcaught discus.For about one year I changed to other amazon cichlids.Was nice but not really what I wanted.I cannot help but I am infected by a certain virus.This is why I changed my tank again in a discustank.Hope you enjoy:

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1030942_zps46807a12.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1030942_zps46807a12.jpg.html)

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http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1030936_zps375d8965.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1030936_zps375d8965.jpg.html)

http://youtu.be/98IrnORwy5E

DLFL

10-20-2013, 10:08 AM

Some great looking fish wonderful tank. Glad you shared .

DiscusLoverJeff

10-20-2013, 11:02 AM

Very nice indeed! Thanks for sharing.

What type of virus?

Wildcaught dutchman

10-20-2013, 12:19 PM

@DiscusLoverJeff:I do think you know the answer but only wanna hear;););)Here comes the answer:

The DiscusVirus

Wildcaught dutchman

10-20-2013, 02:55 PM

A small update:

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1030969_zpsc68879fd.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1030969_zpsc68879fd.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1030962_zpsd0402f77.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1030962_zpsd0402f77.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1030961_zps121bc6bb.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1030961_zps121bc6bb.jpg.html)

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http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1030957_zpsa915bc3a.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1030957_zpsa915bc3a.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1030951_zps7189c81c.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1030951_zps7189c81c.jpg.html)

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Joe

10-20-2013, 06:05 PM

Nice looking tank!!

Second Hand Pat

10-20-2013, 06:23 PM

Awesome looking tank Marc. The fish look great :D
Pat

OC Discus

10-20-2013, 09:23 PM

What are the tankmates?

Wildcaught dutchman

10-21-2013, 04:09 AM

@Second Hand Pat:Thnx Pat.;)You see I am back.No wilds anymore.But I do like these fishes even more.You know I have had for a year some other amazon cichlids.Still had the discusvirus.So after a year again these beauties.

@Oc Discus:Here comes the list.Remind my tank is 1000 litres of water:o.

20 poptella orbicularis
20 brochis spendens.
6 krobias Xingu
2 ivanacara adoketa
2 Tahuantinsuyoa Macanzatza
3 planiloricaria cryptodon.
7 guianacaras owroewefi Grand Lassaut.
7 urostriatum diadema.
2 L14s

YSS

10-21-2013, 06:43 AM

Looking good as always. Great job!

marinum

10-21-2013, 01:14 PM

20 poptella orbicularis
20 brochis spendens.
6 krobias Xingu
2 ivanacara adoketa
2 Tahuantinsuyoa Macanzatza
3 planiloricaria cryptodon.
7 guianacaras owroewefi Grand Lassaut.
7 urostriatum diadema.
2 L14s

Fantastic!
How do you find with guianacaras owroewefi Grand Lassaut and Discus?

Wildcaught dutchman

10-22-2013, 03:31 AM

Thnx all.

@Marinum:I do think this is a very good combination with discus.They are not that busy like most of the geophagus sorts.Also not that big.Like the orange colour of the heds in combination with the red turquoise of my discus.

Wildcaught dutchman

10-26-2013, 09:17 PM

Again time for an update.My panorama photo is crap but I do think you get an impression of my total tank.
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/e2a17ae0-eb4f-45c4-b4c8-f363e13cc1f7_zps880d99dd.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/e2a17ae0-eb4f-45c4-b4c8-f363e13cc1f7_zps880d99dd.jpg.html)
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OC Discus

10-27-2013, 03:45 PM

What is the common name of the long flat plec looking dude? Is it a plec or some kind of catfish?

Wildcaught dutchman

10-27-2013, 03:58 PM

@OC Discus:It is a catfish named planiloricaria cryptodon.It measures about 35-40 cm.It is really a quiet fish.Only when I feed my discus spirulina flakes they get mad.They have a very special mouth to get the food out of the sand.My vid about these fish is the best way to show this embarrassing mouth.Here he comes:

http://youtu.be/EoDA_iZ9iBw

OC Discus

10-27-2013, 04:32 PM

Tank looks as near to natural habitat as I've seen.

Wildcaught dutchman

10-28-2013, 04:46 AM

@OC Discus:Thnx for the compliment.I think you cannot get a better one.The only thing I miss a little in my tank is nice plants.In The Netherlands we say:Yoy don't have green fingers.Means that you do not treat plants in a good way so they die.:angry::cry:

Wildcaught dutchman

10-28-2013, 05:21 AM

After the discusshow I was 'lost' in my tank.When you see how the discus look now in comparison with the first vid I am a happy child.:D

http://youtu.be/Ap3IFjmSObY

YSS

10-28-2013, 06:43 AM

I forget. Why did you decided to go with the domestic strains this time?

Wildcaught dutchman

10-28-2013, 04:17 PM

@YSS:I have had some problems with certain Wilds.Now I know that adding minerals are important and I do now.That time I did not know yet.Also domestics are easier to keep.I am truck driver and it is better for me these domestics.For example no discus was used to eat granulate.After 2 weeks almoast all my domestics started to eat it.I feed them twice now granulate from a feedingmachine.In the evening they get food from the fridge.

My wilds did not eat granulate for example.Were much more diifficult in that way.
Also I like the bigger discus and more round.

Wildcaught dutchman

10-28-2013, 04:44 PM

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040048_zpsd67e733d.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040048_zpsd67e733d.jpg.html)

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http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040054_zps01f51179.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040054_zps01f51179.jpg.html)

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plecocicho

10-28-2013, 05:44 PM

Planiloricaria are close relatives of twig catfish and sturistomas. That funky mouth has the largest possible surface area, great for milion buds to look for invertibrates in sand beaches, where he is found.

YSS

10-28-2013, 05:57 PM

Wildcaught dutchman

11-02-2013, 05:43 AM

Yesterday evening busy with my camera.Here the result:
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DLFL

11-02-2013, 09:49 AM

What a wonderful tank!

Wildcaught dutchman

11-02-2013, 11:12 AM

@DLFL:Thank you!!;):angel:

OC Discus

11-02-2013, 11:29 AM

Do you have some type of curtain on the sides and back? The background is hardly noticeable- blends in nicely with the wood and substrate.

OC Discus

11-02-2013, 11:36 AM

What is your cleaning/maintenance regimen? Does it always look so clean? Also, what type filtration do you use?

Wildcaught dutchman

11-02-2013, 03:44 PM

@OC Discus:The sides of my tank are covered by wood.My tank is standing rather close to the windows.Also I do think that the discus are less stressed when they see only the front of the tank.I think discus do not like a lot of light.In nature they do not have also and when they have they can search for shadow if they want.I do have a Akwaline background but you are right you do not see a lot of it.I only use 2 T5 lights during the day.From 16.00 untill 20.00 I do use 2 T5s extra.

I do a WC twice a week.About 350 litres each WC.I use a sump and an external pump,the Eheim professional 3e.I do also use a diffusor.In spite of what a lot of people say I see the discus like the flow of the water.Because of this flow a lot of dirt comes in my external pump.Almost never clean the ground of my tank.Because of this flow almost all the dirt comes in the pump.After every WC i do clean my pump so also twice a week.

I hope I have given you the wanted information.Will put soon some extra photo's and vids over here.:D

OC Discus

11-02-2013, 05:26 PM

Thank you Dutchman. I assume the background is an insert. Is it sealed or do you remove it to clean behind it? What about the wood on the sides- is it stationary, or do you move it and clean around it? Or is the flow just good enough to keep things clean.

Sorry for all the questions, but your tank is exceptional. Hope you don't mind.

@OC Discus:The sides of my tank are covered by wood.My tank is standing rather close to the windows.Also I do think that the discus are less stressed when they see only the front of the tank.I think discus do not like a lot of light.In nature they do not have also and when they have they can search for shadow if they want.I do have a Akwaline background but you are right you do not see a lot of it.I only use 2 T5 lights during the day.From 16.00 untill 20.00 I do use 2 T5s extra.

I do a WC twice a week.About 350 litres each WC.I use a sump and an external pump,the Eheim professional 3e.I do also use a diffusor.In spite of what a lot of people say I see the discus like the flow of the water.Because of this flow a lot of dirt comes in my external pump.Almost never clean the ground of my tank.Because of this flow almost all the dirt comes in the pump.After every WC i do clean my pump so also twice a week.

I hope I have given you the wanted information.Will put soon some extra photo's and vids over here.:D

Wildcaught dutchman

11-02-2013, 05:39 PM

@Oc Discus:I don't mind.The background is fixed and I cannot clean behind.The wood on the sides I do not take out.The flow is that good because of my diffusor.The water circulates good enough from the left upperside of my tank to the left underside to the inlet of my external Eheim pump.It has to be cleaned twice a week.I think that says enough.

Wildcaught dutchman

11-02-2013, 05:43 PM

After the pictures it is time for a few vids.The first one is different because I use more light as usual.In the second you see my discus fighting.There is a couple laying eggs.The others are very interested and come too close.See what happens:D

http://youtu.be/nbUDu5h2IC8

Wildcaught dutchman

11-02-2013, 05:44 PM

http://youtu.be/ewKaKlL7REk

OC Discus

11-02-2013, 09:01 PM

Awesome. Thanks for sharing.

Wildcaught dutchman

11-08-2013, 05:42 PM

Sinds ik mijn nieuwe pomp in gebruik is is mijn water veel helderder en de vissen kun dat zeer zeker waarderen.Straalt gewoon van de vissen af.Nieuw weekend,tijd voor een kleine update:

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040240_zpsb6eac1ea.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040240_zpsb6eac1ea.jpg.html)
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Wildcaught dutchman

11-09-2013, 11:55 AM

Zit zo te genieten voor mijn bakkie.Heb nog een paar foto's gemaakt.Hoop dat ze niet gaan vervelen:

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Second Hand Pat

11-09-2013, 02:10 PM

Marc, English please :)

Wildcaught dutchman

11-09-2013, 02:54 PM

@Pat:

Translation:I was enjoying myself sitting in front of my tank.Have made several new photos.I hope that this will not be boring for you:

Second Hand Pat

11-09-2013, 03:06 PM

Not at all Marc :)

OC Discus

11-09-2013, 08:33 PM

You must have a good camera. The pictures are amazing. What kind of camera and lense are you using. Also, the writing on the last post is not in English. I think that is what Pat was referring to. We would like to read it. Can you edit the post in English?

@Pat:

Translation:I was enjoying myself sitting in front of my tank.Have made several new photos.I hope that this will not be boring for you:

OC Discus

11-09-2013, 08:35 PM

Were these grown out in a bare bottom tank then put into this display? What is their history?

Wildcaught dutchman

11-09-2013, 08:39 PM

@OC Discus:The translation you already found.I do not use a very special camera.It is a panasonic Lumix.Not with special lenses but just found out a little the way it worked.

Wildcaught dutchman

11-10-2013, 07:26 AM

In the Netherlands it is shitweather at the moment.I really don't mind:

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040320_zpse893e28a.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040320_zpse893e28a.jpg.html)
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tbie2

11-10-2013, 08:01 AM

Wow really nice!

Wildcaught dutchman

11-10-2013, 11:08 AM

@tbie2:Thnx mate!!:D

@OC Discus:Discus were not put in a bare tank but immediately in the displaytank.He first had 6 discus.One died,Later on he bought 5 extra from the same person.This was a later batch of his discus.So I have two kind of discus.Older and a few younger ones.Still nice to see that the ones I thought they were fullgrown still grow.One male is very impressive,becomes thicker and thicker.His eyes are still not that big so I wonder what a monster it will become!!!;)

Because I fouind my group was too small I bought later 6 extra discus.Sure not Stendkers but liked the more impressive colours and small eyes.One spotted included.Also a big discus but way too skinny.I think discus had flaggelates for long time.Have done anything but nothing worked.In the end I took him out of my tank because discus suffered a lot.

lhrocker

12-01-2013, 01:12 AM

Beautiful fish you got there.

HMB

12-04-2013, 01:43 AM

Nice looking tank and discus.

Gixxert

12-04-2013, 08:17 AM

That is absolutely incredible. Great job.

Wildcaught dutchman

12-15-2013, 07:34 AM

@All:Thnx for the compliments.

Time for an update:

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040465_zpseb5fb161.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040465_zpseb5fb161.jpg.html)
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040464_zps61f4449c.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040464_zps61f4449c.jpg.html)
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040455_zps4df98961.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040455_zps4df98961.jpg.html)
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040447_zps5fce0cd0.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040447_zps5fce0cd0.jpg.html)
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040454_zps31347057.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040454_zps31347057.jpg.html)
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040452_zps09eac608.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040452_zps09eac608.jpg.html)
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040450_zpsc19fa093.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040450_zpsc19fa093.jpg.html)
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040447_zps5fce0cd0.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040447_zps5fce0cd0.jpg.html)

VIDEO:

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/th_P1040465_zps1af2cd88.jpg (http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040465_zps1af2cd88.mp4)

OC Discus

12-15-2013, 02:45 PM

You must clean your tank just before taking the pictures. Looks amazing. Do you count on water changes and scavengers to clean between the wood, or do you move things and clean behind it?

Rudustin

12-15-2013, 08:16 PM

WOW! A piece of nature behind glass. Beautiful!

Nick Klimkowski

12-16-2013, 12:09 AM

Looks great! like the natural setup.:D

NAB

12-16-2013, 10:22 PM

Amazing!

Wildcaught dutchman

01-05-2014, 10:18 AM

I have made a hard decision.I had to skip my guinacara's owroewefi Grand Lassaut.In the beginning they were quiet.Later on when they became bigger they were agressive towards my discus.Last night I have changed these 7 fishes for 7 satanoperca's jurupari F1 of 8-10 cm.They are beautiful too and it is quiet again in my tank!!!!;)

Ryan

01-05-2014, 04:10 PM

I have seen Guianacara be fairly aggressive. I was curious to know if you had issues with them; now I know the answer. Beware -- sometimes Satanoperca get aggressive when they're larger, too. :(

Krobia xinguensis are such a great choice for a discus tank. I miss mine. I notice that one of yours is very round -- it must love feeding time. :D

Discusdude7

01-05-2014, 08:34 PM

Ryan

01-05-2014, 08:39 PM

^ Those are Guianacara.

Wildcaught dutchman

01-07-2014, 05:01 PM

@Discusdude 7:Indeed it were guianacaras owroewefi Grand Lassaut.I changed them for satanopercas Leucostica.

@Ryan:Indeed.One of the males is almost round.He never stops eating.When al the other fishes are fed this BIG fish is still searching for food.:p

Wildcaught dutchman

01-19-2014, 07:12 AM

I made some changes in my tank.I changed my guianacara's into satanoperca's leucostica because the guianacara's became too aggressive to the discus.I also skipped a lot of other fishes.Here is the result:

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040510_zps21a526f2.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040510_zps21a526f2.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040507_zps3ff6dbfe.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040507_zps3ff6dbfe.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040504_zps62ca7baf.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040504_zps62ca7baf.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040485_zps959749b5.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040485_zps959749b5.jpg.html)

VIDEO:

http://youtu.be/L8x1HN4UIRw

marinum

01-20-2014, 04:38 AM

overall very beautiful

Mariowa

01-21-2014, 12:21 AM

I like the setup and fish

Nick Klimkowski

01-21-2014, 12:40 AM

Looks great, I like the look of the lighter fish lowed in the tank.

Wildcaught dutchman

01-21-2014, 06:13 PM

Thnx all.

@Nick:I don't know which fish you mean??The satanoperca's leucostica or the planiloricaria cryptodon???

Wildcaught dutchman

01-22-2014, 07:43 AM

Thnx all for the compliments.You are welcome.:D

Wildcaught dutchman

01-22-2014, 04:50 PM

Time for an update:

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040559_zpsb9d7c6a6.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040559_zpsb9d7c6a6.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040557_zpsb796fa6f.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040557_zpsb796fa6f.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040551_zpsde7e6c8d.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040551_zpsde7e6c8d.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040550_zps3098230f.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040550_zps3098230f.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040548_zps4efa6dae.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040548_zps4efa6dae.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040546_zps1298f498.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040546_zps1298f498.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040542_zpscb52ec2a.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040542_zpscb52ec2a.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040541_zps7f896cfb.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040541_zps7f896cfb.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040539_zpsf22f273d.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040539_zpsf22f273d.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040537_zps6fdded6a.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040537_zps6fdded6a.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040536_zps329427a9.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040536_zps329427a9.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040535_zpsbe5ce78b.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040535_zpsbe5ce78b.jpg.html)

OC Discus

01-22-2014, 05:27 PM

Hey Dutchman,

Do you ever get bacterial slime on your driftwood? How do you deal with that?
What about ick and other parasites? I suppose your fish were adults when you added them to the planted tank.

Wildcaught dutchman

01-22-2014, 05:51 PM

@OC Discus:Have had bacterial slime on my driftwood.Now since I use an aquarium purifier of Philips and have a small panaque I have no problems anymore.Indeed my fishes were adults and semi-adults when I added them to my tank.

OC Discus

01-22-2014, 08:32 PM

Cool

Wildcaught dutchman

01-23-2014, 12:30 PM

From stop into slow-motion:

http://youtu.be/M6YDJKkmOrQ

OC Discus

01-23-2014, 05:06 PM

Cool Dutch. What do you call the sand sifters? Are they primarily algae eaters or omnivores? Reminds me of the lawnmower blenny in reef tanks. Do you have to add special food for them?

Wildcaught dutchman

01-24-2014, 04:43 AM

@OC Discus:The ones you mean are Planiloricaria Cryptodon.I really like them because they feed themselves by filtering the sand with their special construction of the mouth.It is amazing!!I do not feed them with special food.They eat everything but they become mad when I feed spirulina flakes!!

Have made a vid where you can see a close up of these particular fishes:

http://youtu.be/EoDA_iZ9iBw

OC Discus

01-24-2014, 01:40 PM

Hey Dutchman,

I was actually referring to the small cichlid looking fish taking sand in the mouth and expelling it from the gills. They have a speckeled body. It is the fish in the previous picture/video.

joanstone

01-24-2014, 01:55 PM

I really like those P. Cryptodon. How long have you had them? Unfortunately, they aren't readily available here.

Wildcaught dutchman

01-24-2014, 03:17 PM

@OC Discus:Ok.The ones you mean are satanoperca leucostica.Mines are F1.I changed them for my guinacaras because they became agressive towards my discus when they mated.These satans are very relaxed fishes.They are still young,about 8-10 cm.They become twice as big.

@Joanstone:Have had five of them but sold two because they have become big,about 40 cm.I do have them now about 15 months.They are quiet fishes which eat the food the discus do not eat anymore.

joanstone

01-24-2014, 04:02 PM

Nice, I'm going to keep my eye out for some-I really like fish like that.

Wildcaught dutchman

02-03-2014, 04:56 PM

Photos are crap so I made a vid also:

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040631_zps8b8f0f90.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040631_zps8b8f0f90.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040623_zpsf3e23fd6.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040623_zpsf3e23fd6.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040622_zps5a55784c.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040622_zps5a55784c.jpg.html)

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/nightrider121/P1040621_zps3ef22186.jpg (http://s696.photobucket.com/user/nightrider121/media/P1040621_zps3ef22186.jpg.html)

FILMPJE:

http://youtu.be/He5AfEHiN5A