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Udeservit
01-17-2014, 10:00 PM
I just use tap water and add conditioner to the water before adding to tank. That could get costly with even 2-3 X week water changes.

Comments?

DLock3d
01-17-2014, 10:13 PM
Buy a kilo of safe.

John_Nicholson
01-17-2014, 10:15 PM
Listen to the advise above or raise guppies?

-john

Milo2
01-17-2014, 10:18 PM
I get my prime from amazon.com. Pretty good price. 1 capful treats 100 gallons.

timmy82
01-17-2014, 10:24 PM
Set up inline filters with block carbon silver impregnated work well and a PP sediment prior to them.

Udeservit
01-17-2014, 10:46 PM
kilo of safe? ok, i googled it. 27 $ on Amazon.com have to buy 2 as free shipping is only for 35$ or more :( Guppies are boring:(

Milo2 what brand prime do You buy, I'll check out Amazon

Bill63SG
01-17-2014, 10:48 PM
Nothing is cheaper then SAFE.Prime is just the liquid form of SAFE.

Wes
01-17-2014, 11:07 PM
Or you can spilt a bucket of safe with a friend but don't get pulled over if he gives it to you in a zip lock. You will be explaining for hours its for fish.


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I swear its safe fish dechlorinator???

Udeservit
01-17-2014, 11:17 PM
ok, so I don't think I was looking at the right thing on Amazon after you showing me the powder *wink *wink...:) can you post me a link or brand or packaging so i can find this?

Wes
01-17-2014, 11:20 PM
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/xeriod/ASM387_zps861d0a9c.jpg (http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/xeriod/media/ASM387_zps861d0a9c.jpg.html)

http://www.kensfish.com/aquarium-supplies/water-treatments/water-conditioners.html

http://www.kensfish.com/aquarium-supplies/water-treatments/seachem-safe-4-liter.html

Udeservit
01-17-2014, 11:26 PM
Great thanks

Skip
01-17-2014, 11:41 PM
Seachem Safe
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Seachem Prime... Google terms

phat nguyen
01-18-2014, 01:38 AM
Hi there,
You can get 4kg of SAFE at customaquatic.com for $80.29. It used to be $72.99...... This should last you a few years of regular WC.
I"ve been using this product for a long time without any incident.

Sincerely,
Perry Nguyen

Milo2
01-18-2014, 02:40 AM
kilo of safe? ok, i googled it. 27 $ on Amazon.com have to buy 2 as free shipping is only for 35$ or more :( Guppies are boring:(

Milo2 what brand prime do You buy, I'll check out Amazon

I purchased the Seachem 2 liter for around $36. I age my water in several 55 gal barrels and put 1 or 2 cape fuels of prime right before I turn on the pump. So far it should last me 12 months.

trungnguyen
01-18-2014, 04:06 AM
I usually mix 9 table spoons of SAFE powder with 2 litters of water for solution. 1kg lasts for a long time


Trung.

Bill63SG
01-18-2014, 09:31 AM
I usually mix 9 table spoons of SAFE powder with 2 litters of water for solution. 1kg lasts for a long time


Trung.

My understanding,once in water,SAFE is good for 24hrs.Do you store it,or have a bunch of tanks?

Udeservit
01-18-2014, 10:50 AM
My understanding,once in water,SAFE is good for 24hrs.Do you store it,or have a bunch of tanks?

you are right, I read the bottle and it has a short life span once added to water.

trungnguyen
01-18-2014, 11:22 AM
I don't store the water, use tap straight, and I have done that for a year with no problem with my fish.


Trung.

Skip
01-18-2014, 11:36 AM
I am a follow direction kind of guy

nc0gnet0
01-18-2014, 11:52 AM
My understanding,once in water,SAFE is good for 24hrs.Do you store it,or have a bunch of tanks?


I usually mix 9 table spoons of SAFE powder with 2 litters of water for solution. 1kg lasts for a long time

A few years ago, I emailed the manufacturer on this. What they told me, is that while they don't recomend it, if you mix the safe with RO/DI in this matter, the safe should be good for at least a week. I have actually tested this, and found it to be good for at least a month (the test used was to see if it still neutralized PP).

The thing is, they (the manufacturer) have no idea what dissolved minerals and impurities you might have in your tap, and how they will react to the safe over any extended period of time. If your going to go this route, do yourself a favor and buy a gallon of distilled water to premix with.

CShanks
01-23-2014, 09:31 AM
We are lucky not to have chlorine in our tap water and otherwise RO?

dirtyplants
01-23-2014, 09:59 AM
Confused about conversation with safe. Chorine evaporates within 24 hours, does a RO unit remove Chorine and heavy minerals? Guess my question is why would you need to add safe to RO/DI water?

BODYDUB
01-23-2014, 03:47 PM
Listen to the advise above or raise guppies?

-john
Guppies, lol.................

Wes
01-23-2014, 07:32 PM
Confused about conversation with safe. Chorine evaporates within 24 hours, does a RO unit remove Chorine and heavy minerals? Guess my question is why would you need to add safe to RO/DI water?
Hi Coree

I think it was tap water in the original ask. Then it went to using the power form safe to make your own prime (liquid form but still a concentrate) to pour in tank or aging bucket. I guess they think liquid will disperse better. Then it went to what is the shelf life after you mix safe and water to make a concentrate. Most still mix tap with RO so would still need safe. chloramines.:thumbsup:

Allwin
01-23-2014, 08:25 PM
+1

Chlorines are fine. Chloramines are pretty strong so Safe is needed from my understanding.

Hi Coree

I think it was tap water in the original ask. Then it went to using the power form safe to make your own prime (liquid form but still a concentrate) to pour in tank or aging bucket. I guess they think liquid will disperse better. Then it went to what is the shelf life after you mix safe and water to make a concentrate. Most still mix tap with RO so would still need safe. chloramines.:thumbsup:

dirtyplants
01-23-2014, 09:53 PM
Got it guys thanks!

MSD
01-24-2014, 08:00 AM
+1

Chlorines are fine. Chloramines are pretty strong so Safe is needed from my understanding.

Haha, chlorine is NOT fine, why post when you don't know what you are talking about???

Allwin
01-24-2014, 08:27 AM
Buddy,first you should start reading the relevant posts related to it and then have your comment. Chlorine do evaporate if ur aerating for 24hrs but chloramines are pretty strong and they do not evaporate even after aerating for 24hrs, so something like safe is needed. Hope, u got it now :)

Udeservit
01-24-2014, 01:57 PM
I don't store the water, use tap straight, and I have done that for a year with no problem with my fish.


Trung.

ok. ordered safe powder. and a python. going to replace water straight from tap then add the safe powder to the tank. What would the dosing be for a 75 gal then? This may be an irritating question for all you advanced aquarists but It certainly would be helpful to me to know how to use this powder. I don't know how comfortable i am with pre-mixing it in a bottle for use trungnguyen.

nazveel
01-24-2014, 03:12 PM
I use tetra aquasafe

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Bill63SG
01-24-2014, 07:01 PM
ok. ordered safe powder. and a python. going to replace water straight from tap then add the safe powder to the tank. What would the dosing be for a 75 gal then? This may be an irritating question for all you advanced aquarists but It certainly would be helpful to me to know how to use this powder. I don't know how comfortable i am with pre-mixing it in a bottle for use trungnguyen.

Its alright to go over,and in the winter months I do.I have cooking measuring spoons,so for a 75,I use a level teaspoon.

SnapshotAquarist
01-30-2014, 07:37 AM
Its alright to go over,and in the winter months I do.I have cooking measuring spoons,so for a 75,I use a level teaspoon.

Just a teaspoon for a 75?


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Heyguy74
01-30-2014, 10:53 PM
I have only chlorine in my tap and use sodium thiosulfate. One pound treats almost 38,000 gallons. Its much cheaper. Although I do keep some prime/safe on hand in case in need to get rid of ammonia. Although that hasn't happened in years.