Triple Crown ? Belmont Stakes is today! Take the wager challenge......

[nc0gnet0]

Any horse racing fans out there? Will CC (California Chrome) do it? There has not been a triple crown winner since 1978, maybe this year.


Ok, fun little contest using imaginary money. If you were to have $120.00 to wager on the race, how would you bet it? Be interesting to see of everyone that enters, who would win the most.

Gimmick bets are allowed.

I will start, I hate playing the favorites so this is what I would do:

1 dollar trifecta key 1,2,5,8,9,11 / 4 / 1,2,5,8,9,11
1 dollar trifecta key 1,2,5,8,9,11 / 1,2,5,8,9,11 / 4


1 dollar trifecta key 1,2,4,5,8,11 / 9 / 1,2,4,5,8,11
1 dollar trifecta key 1,2,4,5,8,11 / 1,2,4,5,8,11 / 9

Total bet $120.00


You don't have to play the gimmick to enter, you can just simply say $120.00 on (name of horse here) to win etc etc.

Horses in the field are:

1. Medal Count (Sportsbook.ag: 28-1; Belmont: 20-1)

2. California Chrome (Sportsbook.ag: 10-13; Belmont: 3-5)

3. Matterhorn (Sportsbook.ag: 50-1; Belmont: 30-1)

4. Commanding Curve (Sportsbook.ag: 10-1; Belmont: 15-1)

5. Ride On Curlin (Sportsbook.ag: 8-1; Belmont: 12-1)

6. Matuszak (Sportsbook.ag: 50-1; Belmont: 30-1)

7. Samraat (Sportsbook.ag: 32-1; Belmont: 20-1)

8. Commissioner (Sportsbook.ag: 28-1; Belmont: 20-1)

9. Wicked Strong (Sportsbook.ag: 4-1; Belmont 6-1)

10. General a Rod (Sportsbook.ag: 32-1; Belmont 20-1)

11. Tonalist (Sportsbook.ag: 10-1; Belmont 8-1)

winners will be based on actual track payouts and not the morning betting line (this can change quite a bit)


any takers?

[Madaboutdiscus]

I'll play. I don't get to the track much so to simplify I'll bet 200 on Wicked Strong. I really do hope we have a triple crown but like you Rick I don't play favorites much.

~Victoria

[yim11]

$120 on CC

[nc0gnet0]

I'll play. I don't get to the track much so to simplify I'll bet 200 on Wicked Strong. I really do hope we have a triple crown but like you Rick I don't play favorites much.

~Victoria

Ok, but you only get $120 to be lol. Are you betting him to win?

[Madaboutdiscus]

Lol sorry I didn't know 120 was the limit. Yes to win.

~Victoria

[Wes]

1$ on California Chrome to win
99$ on Matuszak to place
20$ on Matterhorn to show

[Cambik]

$120 on CC to win.

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[nc0gnet0]

1$ on California Chrome to win
99$ on Matuszak to place
20$ on Matterhorn to show

no such thing as a 1 dollar win bet lol. how about:



2$ on California Chrome to win
98$ on Matuszak to place
20$ on Matterhorn to show

[musicmarn1]

I would do it exactly like Rick since he put all the work and effort in:) and I'll buy you a round when you win me a few hundred!

[Wes]

no such thing as a 1 dollar win bet lol. how about:




Its been 30 years since I have been to the track. oops.
2$ on California Chrome to win
99$ on Matuszak to place
19$ on Matterhorn to show
:p

[nc0gnet0]

just an fyi


Since 1997, eight horses have won the Derby and Preakness and failed to win the Belmont

The Belmont has not been kind to favorites. Since 2000, only two have won:

No Triple Crown winner has faced more than seven rivals in the Belmont. California Chrome will have 10 challengers,

[Discus-n00b]

Starting to think we'll never see another triple crown winner. Hate it, I'd love to see one.

[nc0gnet0]

California Chromes trainer had quite a rant after the race, and I think he was right.


-Rick

[Discus-n00b]

I didn't see the rant, what did he say?

[nc0gnet0]

I didn't see the rant, what did he say?

Complaining that there were horses entered into the race, that were not even eligible for the Kentucky Derby, or sat out the Preakness to prep for the Belmont. For Instance Tonalist, the race winner, had not raced in a few months, was not eligible for the Derby, and was a much fresher horse than California Chrome. Meanwhile, California Chrome had raced all three races (this is quite grueling for the horses).

The argument is that horses that are allowed to be entered into the Belmont should be required to have raced in both the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness. it is becoming more common place for a few slick trainers/owners to hold their horse's back and just target them for one race, which is not how things were done in the past.

[Discus-n00b]

Can't say I disagree with him. Should run on all 3 or none of them. Best of the best and level playing field.

[LizStreithorst]

I disagree. I think that a Triple Crown winner should be able to take on all comers. That is the way it has always been and that's the way it should remain. Making it otherwise would diminish the title.

I never bet because I follow my heart so I always loose. I was for pulling for Chrome, but the long race after only 3 week's rest against fresh horses was too much for him. The race was clean. I have no problem with the outcome.

[nc0gnet0]

I was pulling for him too, but bet against him in my bets I posted. I almost scored big just missing the tri-fecta which payed $3,300.00. I had played all the right horses, but keyed the wrong two. I was pretty sure he wouldn't win, but was pulling for him just the same.

All of the top three finishers did not race in the preakness, and two of them had not raced in either. Taking on all comers is fine and dandy, but the grueling schedule and short breaks in between races makes that a real challenge. If a prize boxer defends his title and goes 15 rounds against a challenger, he is not expected to fight the next day against another challenger. I like to see a race in which the best horse wins, watching tonalist win reminded me of someone that sneaks into the Boston marathon 2 miles prior to the finish line, and runs across the finish line first, while all the other racers have raced 24 miles to his 2.


-Rick

[nc0gnet0]

We will never see another horse like this"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V18ui3Rtjz4

[LizStreithorst]

But Rick, those have always been the rules. Lessening the standards would lessen the value of the title.

I think that Chrome could have won at a mile and a half but that the grueling schedule was more than he could handle against fresher competition. He's still a fine stud whose semen will command a ridiculously high price. Is just isn't a champion among champions. Secretariat would have left him in the dust. Secretariat was a true champion.

[LizStreithorst]

Rick, you posted the vid as I was posting. I agree. There will be another horse like him. I don't keep up with horse racing much, but I don't think that any of his offspring have proved exceptional on the track.

[nc0gnet0]

Secretariat would have left him in the dust. Secretariat was a true champion.

I couldn't agree more with this statement.


But Rick, those have always been the rules. Lessening the standards would lessen the value of the title.

You are correct, those are the rules, and changing them would diminish the triple crown somewhat. However, what is also the truth is that back in the days of secretariat, it was not nearly as common to do so (only running your horse in one race), and actually quite rare (look at the size of the field that secretariat raced against).

[nc0gnet0]

Rick, you posted the vid as I was posting. I agree. There will be another horse like him. I don't keep up with horse racing much, but I don't think that any of his offspring have proved exceptional on the track.

Actually his offspring have not been that successful. After secretariat passed, they performed and autopsy and found his heart was nearly 3x the size of a normal horses.

[Madaboutdiscus]

I agree with the jockey. Throwing in horses that were well rested really put chrome at a poor disadvantage. I agree that he should be able to take on all contenders but the poor horse has not had much rest and if those other horses have that's not a fair turn.

~Victoria

[Discus-n00b]

I keep hoping to see another horse like Secretariat but I don't think we ever will either. Love watching his races.

I'm actually surprised, given modern medicine and knowledge, that someone hasn't bred/created a super horse yet (legally of course) that imitated what Secretariat was by birth.

[Discus-n00b]

And I don't know how many of you watch college football but this same type of discussion has been going on for decades. Do you want to see a Northern Illinois cupcake Cinderella team that has had an easy road all year play powerhouse Alabama or FSU and possibly upset one of the greatest seasons ever or would you rather watch Alabama play another powerhouse like FSU to duke it out. Battle of the heavyweights. Personally I want to see the ones that slug through that tough schedule all year come out the other side and match up with someone who has done the same not a cupcake that waltzed in at the end due to an easy schedule and stupid computer rules telling us that they deserve to be there.

I know thats how the rules are written currently but how they are written doesn't mean they are right. I don't follow horse racing as much as some I'm sure, I watch the big races and get excited about them and I've felt this way for years just from an outside observers opinion of watching the races and hearing that some compete in all and some compete in a few.

Six of the last eight Belmont winners have skipped races prior to the Belmont. Its a telling stat.

[Keith Perkins]

Risen Star may have been Secretariat's best off-spring, it won the last two legs of the triple crown in the late 80's.

I was pulling for CC too. One of the owner's mother's is from my hometown.

[nc0gnet0]

Risen Star may have been Secretariat's best off-spring, it won the last two legs of the triple crown in the late 80's.

I was pulling for CC too. One of the owner's mother's is from my hometown.

I should have worded my reply to Secretariats offspring a bit differently. They haven't been complete busts, just none of them has ever come close to comparing to him. It's my understanding that his broodmares have actually done better than his stallions. (ie. his daughters children)