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Kelvin
11-08-2014, 10:41 PM
1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?
Young discus fry (Only 5 days after free swimming) started to swirl around in circles and would die shortly after. (Only 2 of them has died at this point) Other then introducing Baby Brine Shrimp to fry, nothing else really happened.

2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).
Swirling around in water with erratic movement. Dying shortly after. Rapid Breathing.

3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.
Tried Prazi Pro treatment (7 Days *following bottle instructions(1tsp for 20 gallons)) before breeding hoping to clean the pair of any gill flukes.


Tank/Water

4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.
40 gallon breeder. 1 pair of discus with approximately ~40-50 baby fry.

5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).
50% at least 3 times a week.

6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?
Tank has been running for ~7 weeks now. Sand substrate - About 1 cm deep.

7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.
n/a

8. Parameters and water source;

Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.


- temp 86 F

- ph ~7.0

- ammonia reading Undetectable

- nitrite reading Undetectable

- nitrate reading ~10ppm

What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.

- well water ____

- municipal water 100%

- RO water ____


9. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.
n/a

10. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them.
Don't have any at the moment.

I believe this is Gill Flukes but I need a safe and fast treatment to save the discus fry. Is Prazi the only way to go?
*Don't have a microscope to check slime or gills of pathogens.

Also a little bit new to breeding Discus, so any other tips on breeding will help!

Thanks!
-Kelvin

Second Hand Pat
11-08-2014, 11:26 PM
Kevin, when you feed the fry BBS are you also adding the salt water from the hatchery water in the feeding?

Kelvin
11-08-2014, 11:28 PM
Only one time I forgot to rinse. But the other times I filter and rinse with freshwater.
Is it maybe that one time it caused this?

John_Nicholson
11-08-2014, 11:35 PM
Salt will not hurt them. I have not rinsed my BBS in years. You are lacking in waer changes though. This is the most important time for quality water.

-john

Second Hand Pat
11-08-2014, 11:38 PM
It's just a thought, also due to the age of these fry I would not medicate but would cull the fry and start over with a new batch. I would wait to see of some more experienced folks step in and have something better to offer. Like John lol.

Kelvin
11-08-2014, 11:51 PM
I'll increase the amount of water changes, but is the fry only doing this because of dirty water from lack of water changes or is this something else?
And would medicating at this stage damage the fry's liver?

I want to try to save this batch, but if there isn't any possible solution to this problem, i will cull them and start over.

-Kelvin

nc0gnet0
11-09-2014, 01:52 AM
Best to start over and cull the batch. Get rid of the sand and go bare bottom. Sand has no place in a breeding tank. Up water changes to 50% 2x a day (75% is better). these issues are almost always water quality related.

Kelvin
11-09-2014, 06:38 PM
Alright thanks!