zergling
12-26-2014, 11:54 PM
I came home to find one of my blues with a massive wound on his head. As this was not present when I finished their water change at 1AM this morning, my initial thought is that it injured inself via a serious collision onto something in the tank.
However, the "injury" seems to have a circular, ring-like formation on it, which makes me worry that I have a disease that needs to be addressed. Obviously, please point out to me if I'm just imagining this.
1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?
- Big head wound - was not present at 1:00AM, first seen at 7:00PM
2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).
- Big head wound
- Turning dark, but seems to be on the outer portion(?) only. Middle seems to be the same/normal blue brightness
- First time I've seen it start to show its stress bars since its first few days in the tank.
3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.
- Only Seachem Prime during water changes
Tank/Water
4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.
- 64-ish gallon
- 8 Discus: One small at 3.5"-ish, the rest are 4.5" to 5.5"
- I started with six juvies back in 8/25/14. They were 2.5" at best. One is still small, which I estimate to be 3.5" or so, the rest are now roughly the same size as the female Blue Diamond (which I measured at 4.75" last October)
*An adult pair was added back in October - a 4.75" Blue Diamond female and a 5.5" Red Turq with black halo (my best guess re its strain)
- 2 Espei Rasbora
- 1 long-fin Albino Bristlenose Pleco
- a few dozen red cherry shrimp
5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).
- Daily 50%
6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?
- The tank and some of the equipment are a little over 7 years old, but I did a tear down for a fresh cycle back in August. Heavy seeding from filter media from other 2+ year old tanks.
- Sand bottom, anywhere from 0.5" to 1" deep.
7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.
- No
- Will test pH later if necessary
8. Parameters and water source;
- tap San Francisco water
Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.
- temp __82___
- ph _____ will test later if necessary
- ammonia reading ____ will test later if necessary
- nitrite reading ____ will test later if necessary
- nitrate reading ____ will test later if necessary
What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.
- tap water + Seachem Prime only
9. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.
- no
10. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1689_zps3c78432c.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1688_zps3dcda106.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1687_zps4d6a54e8.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1686_zpsf837e8b0.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_03151_zps3593c8e8.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_03151_zps736e51f2.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1685_zps90af1d13.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1684_zpsf356e83b.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1683_zps09ade54d.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1682_zpse551a4b5.jpg
However, the "injury" seems to have a circular, ring-like formation on it, which makes me worry that I have a disease that needs to be addressed. Obviously, please point out to me if I'm just imagining this.
1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?
- Big head wound - was not present at 1:00AM, first seen at 7:00PM
2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).
- Big head wound
- Turning dark, but seems to be on the outer portion(?) only. Middle seems to be the same/normal blue brightness
- First time I've seen it start to show its stress bars since its first few days in the tank.
3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.
- Only Seachem Prime during water changes
Tank/Water
4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.
- 64-ish gallon
- 8 Discus: One small at 3.5"-ish, the rest are 4.5" to 5.5"
- I started with six juvies back in 8/25/14. They were 2.5" at best. One is still small, which I estimate to be 3.5" or so, the rest are now roughly the same size as the female Blue Diamond (which I measured at 4.75" last October)
*An adult pair was added back in October - a 4.75" Blue Diamond female and a 5.5" Red Turq with black halo (my best guess re its strain)
- 2 Espei Rasbora
- 1 long-fin Albino Bristlenose Pleco
- a few dozen red cherry shrimp
5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).
- Daily 50%
6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?
- The tank and some of the equipment are a little over 7 years old, but I did a tear down for a fresh cycle back in August. Heavy seeding from filter media from other 2+ year old tanks.
- Sand bottom, anywhere from 0.5" to 1" deep.
7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.
- No
- Will test pH later if necessary
8. Parameters and water source;
- tap San Francisco water
Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.
- temp __82___
- ph _____ will test later if necessary
- ammonia reading ____ will test later if necessary
- nitrite reading ____ will test later if necessary
- nitrate reading ____ will test later if necessary
What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.
- tap water + Seachem Prime only
9. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.
- no
10. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1689_zps3c78432c.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1688_zps3dcda106.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1687_zps4d6a54e8.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1686_zpsf837e8b0.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_03151_zps3593c8e8.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_03151_zps736e51f2.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1685_zps90af1d13.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1684_zpsf356e83b.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1683_zps09ade54d.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/zergling2/ADA%20120-P/discus%20injury%202014dec26/IMG_1682_zpse551a4b5.jpg