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Second Hand Pat
02-16-2015, 11:30 PM
She wants to play mommy and he wants to play with his FDBW cube.

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So they do this

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Second Hand Pat
02-16-2015, 11:32 PM
For a brief moment

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Discus-n00b
02-16-2015, 11:35 PM
Those are absolutely beautiful fish Pat.

discuspaul
02-17-2015, 12:00 AM
Pic 7550 - Priceless !!!
No battle there.

Second Hand Pat
02-17-2015, 12:07 AM
Those are absolutely beautiful fish Pat.

Thanks Matt :) I am finally getting some decent pictures of them. I had to replace the light with an led light which works well with the speedlight.


Pic 7550 - Priceless !!!
No battle there.

Thanks Paul but while that looks like a kiss it is actually a lip lock.

The female started to lay eggs (so confirmed female :)) and the suspected male ate them. He is definitely NOT ready to join the party yet. :)

Second Hand Pat
02-17-2015, 12:09 AM
and back to this.

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MKD
02-17-2015, 01:09 AM
Very nice pair Pat. Have fun and enjoy.


Pic 7550 - Priceless !!!
No battle there.
It's a big long kiss! !!!

Second Hand Pat
02-17-2015, 08:48 AM
Thanks Tony, these guys still have some maturing to do. They are still under a year old.
Pat

MKD
02-17-2015, 11:37 AM
You do an awesome job growing them out under a year.

rickztahone
02-17-2015, 12:18 PM
Stunning looking pair you got there.

Second Hand Pat
02-17-2015, 03:29 PM
You do an awesome job growing them out under a year.

I can't really take credit for that Tony as they were five inches when I got them.


Stunning looking pair you got there.

Thanks Ricardo, just need to clean the glass and de-clutter the tank :)

Second Hand Pat
02-17-2015, 09:54 PM
All peace tonight so played with lighting

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alron2
02-17-2015, 09:57 PM
Really pretty fish. What kind of discus are they?
Thanks
Ron

Second Hand Pat
02-17-2015, 09:59 PM
Really pretty fish. What kind of discus are they?
Thanks
Ron

Thanks Ron, they are Forrest Giant Red Turqs from Kenny.
Pat

Altum Nut
02-17-2015, 10:03 PM
Great pics Pat. Take good care of them until NADA and please triple bag them for me so they have the proper transition prior to putting them in my tank.:D

...Ralph

Second Hand Pat
02-17-2015, 10:07 PM
Great pics Pat. Take good care of them until NADA and please triple bag them for me so they have the proper transition prior to putting them in my tank.:D

...Ralph

LOL yes sir :D:D

jawfish
02-19-2015, 12:08 AM
Very nice pair Pat. Great pictures also...

Second Hand Pat
02-19-2015, 12:21 AM
Very nice pair Pat. Great pictures also...

Thanks Fred :)

Inland Empire Discus
02-19-2015, 01:11 PM
Very nice looking fish Pat. You have done a very nice job with them.

Second Hand Pat
02-19-2015, 01:32 PM
Very nice looking fish Pat. You have done a very nice job with them.

Thanks Bill, I appreciate that :D:D
Pat

Kev29
02-20-2015, 02:58 AM
dude i want those!! Kenny sell those bad boys for what like 280$ ?

Second Hand Pat
02-20-2015, 03:13 AM
dude i want those!! Kenny sell those bad boys for what like 280$ ?

Hehe, more like $128 at five inches

Second Hand Pat
03-31-2015, 11:03 PM
These two finally came to see eye to eye together tonight. First successful spawn.

86104

nc0gnet0
03-31-2015, 11:21 PM
Get the screen! Old habits die hard!

:)

Second Hand Pat
03-31-2015, 11:26 PM
As soon as they are done Rick lol :)
Pat

rickztahone
04-01-2015, 01:03 AM
Man I really love these

Second Hand Pat
04-01-2015, 01:20 AM
Man I really love these

Me too Ricardo. Nice to see them finally come together.
Pat

Second Hand Pat
04-01-2015, 08:51 AM
So caged the eggs which freaked the female out. They do not seem to be tending the eggs this morning plus there are quite a few white eggs (to be expected). These fish are still young so I'm sure the brooding instincts will kick in at some point.

Rudustin
04-01-2015, 09:36 AM
Lovely pair Pat. I have ordered four Giant Flora's from Kenny for April delivery. Hoping for some females. I love this pair you have. I remember when you got them. Congrats and keep us informed of their spawning in the future. Rufus

Second Hand Pat
04-01-2015, 09:40 AM
Thanks Rufus, I will keep this thread updated with their progress and congrats on the four Giant Flora's from Kenny. Those are nice. :D I like the straight line RTs Kenny had too.
Pat

Rudustin
04-01-2015, 09:47 AM
Thanks Rufus, I will keep this thread updated with their progress and congrats on the four Giant Flora's from Kenny. Those are nice. :D I like the straight line RTs Kenny had too.
Pat Yes, I toyed with the idea of the Straight line RTs from Kenny but decided on the GFs instead. I'm sure we will hear in a few months that your pair have produced fry. Take care. Rufus

Second Hand Pat
04-01-2015, 10:08 AM
Yes, I toyed with the idea of the Straight line RTs from Kenny but decided on the GFs instead. I'm sure we will hear in a few months that your pair have produced fry. Take care. Rufus

Rufus, last time I played with breeding a pair of domestics waiting for the wilds to do something, the Tefe's paired up and spawned. Sort of hoping for the same thing here. Either way definitely would like to confirm these guys. :D
Pat

Rudustin
04-01-2015, 11:38 AM
Rufus, last time I played with breeding a pair of domestics waiting for the wilds to do something, the Tefe's paired up and spawned. Sort of hoping for the same thing here. Either way definitely would like to confirm these guys. :D
Pat
Pat, well let's hope that the spawning pheromones can be air borne and that the Tefes's do the same thing! LOL! Rufus

Second Hand Pat
04-01-2015, 11:57 PM
Pat, well let's hope that the spawning pheromones can be air borne and that the Tefes's do the same thing! LOL! Rufus

Thanks Rufus, crossing body parts :D:D

So the eggs went all white by this afternoon. Once the cage went on the female did not fan the eggs and I did not have an extra air pump to pump air to slowly bubble around the eggs to help with water circulation. I removed the cage and walked away and the female was back to fanning the eggs so perhaps that is a good sign. I cleaned the cone and lowered the TDS in the tank. It was 97 and now is 80. Target is 50 for the next spawn. Stay tuned. :D

DISCUS STU
04-03-2015, 11:21 AM
Beautiful, gorgeous, incredible. I can't say any more.

Rudustin
04-03-2015, 11:28 AM
Pat, it will come in one big bang i think. Spring has sprung and I am praying to the Discus god for the arrival of your discus Fry!!! Rufus

Second Hand Pat
04-03-2015, 01:08 PM
Beautiful, gorgeous, incredible. I can't say any more.

Thanks Stu :o


Pat, it will come in one big bang i think. Spring has sprung and I am praying to the Discus god for the arrival of your discus Fry!!! Rufus

Aw thanks Rufus :D:D I perhaps do need to be careful what I wish for as sometimes you get more then you can handle :D:D.

Pat

Rudustin
04-03-2015, 11:30 PM
Pat, so true! LOL! Well I'm still praying to Amazonia! I know I named the Discus God that! It's a female God by the way. She will make it happen. I don't know anyone that spoils their Discus as much as you! You deserve some fry grandchildren. Rufus.

Second Hand Pat
04-08-2015, 11:41 PM
Pat, so true! LOL! Well I'm still praying to Amazonia! I know I named the Discus God that! It's a female God by the way. She will make it happen. I don't know anyone that spoils their Discus as much as you! You deserve some fry grandchildren. Rufus.

Thanks Rufus :D

Second Hand Pat
04-08-2015, 11:44 PM
These guys laid again tonight. I walked in towards the end of the egg laying and the male does not seem to be covering the eggs very well. TDS is 47 but I suspect these eggs will turn white due to the male not doing his job...teenagers.
Pat

Bilbo
04-19-2015, 11:36 PM
Are these straight line Rt? Beautiful.

Second Hand Pat
04-19-2015, 11:48 PM
Are these straight line Rt? Beautiful.

Thanks...Kenny sold these under Forrest Giant Red Turquoise. There are some straight lines in the current shipment.
Pat

Second Hand Pat
04-20-2015, 10:03 PM
Working on their third spawn

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Solid
04-21-2015, 08:29 AM
Purty fish!

rickztahone
04-21-2015, 11:49 AM
I keep coming back to this thread because these fish have such great shape! It's ridiculous how good they look. Good luck with spawn Pat

Second Hand Pat
04-21-2015, 11:54 AM
I keep coming back to this thread because these fish have such great shape! It's ridiculous how good they look. Good luck with spawn Pat

They have not spawned yet Ricardo (but need to go check). These guys are getting big. The female is six inches now and the male is six and a half. Yup, measured with a ruler :) The pair is getting along very well, might need to rename the thread.

Loosir
04-21-2015, 12:37 PM
The female is six inches now and the male is six and a half.

Wow!! You took them from 5" to 6.5" in under 8 months. I thought you needed 13-14 months for that stage. Beautiful fish Pat.

Second Hand Pat
04-21-2015, 03:25 PM
Wow!! You took them from 5" to 6.5" in under 8 months. I thought you needed 13-14 months for that stage. Beautiful fish Pat.

Thanks Geoff, I would think these guys are pretty spot on for size based on age. Thinking seven or eight months old at five inches plus another eight months with me puts them at about 16 months of age.
Pat

Second Hand Pat
04-21-2015, 10:27 PM
These guys are currently spawning so I grabbed my camera and speed-light. After messing with the settings I finally feel like the fish look fairly true in the picture as they do to my eyeball. This pair definitely are not egg savvy. Watched lots of eggs fall to the bottom of the tank and the male was happy to help himself. He does seem to be covering the eggs. So here are some pics.

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rickztahone
04-21-2015, 10:49 PM
So amazing.

blueluv
04-21-2015, 11:26 PM
Wow! Wow! Gorgeous! Your picture really captures their color.

Second Hand Pat
04-22-2015, 03:44 PM
So amazing.


Wow! Wow! Gorgeous! Your picture really captures their color.

Thanks Ricardo and Chris, well, the male was so busy tending to the eggs which fell off the cone he sort of forget to fertilize the eggs. Eggs went white. I better give him a FDBW cube so he can practice. :D
Pat

Rudustin
04-22-2015, 04:18 PM
Hi Pat, They are beautiful. I just received today my four Giant floras from Kenny. They are in QT and they seem a bit shy yet and have lights off but have some ambient light from the windows. They are quite nice and hope they grow up to be like your pair. Take care. Rufus

Second Hand Pat
04-22-2015, 04:21 PM
Thanks Rufus and congrats on the Giant Floras. I get they are gorgeous.
Pat

Rudustin
04-22-2015, 05:22 PM
Thanks Rufus and congrats on the Giant Floras. I get they are gorgeous.
Pat
Yes, they are but still my favorite are the four Altum Floras I got from you. I did lose the female. She got burned on a heater and I didn't notice right away and when I finally realized it she was gone! It was very upsetting. Big Guy is amazingly beautiful and the original Male is also. Take care. Rufus

RogueDiscus
04-23-2015, 12:05 AM
Beautiful fish, Pat! Wow!
Steve

Second Hand Pat
04-23-2015, 07:43 AM
Yes, they are but still my favorite are the four Altum Floras I got from you. I did lose the female. She got burned on a heater and I didn't notice right away and when I finally realized it she was gone! It was very upsetting. Big Guy is amazingly beautiful and the original Male is also. Take care. Rufus

Sorry to hear that Rufus :( Are you still female shy?

Second Hand Pat
04-23-2015, 07:43 AM
Beautiful fish, Pat! Wow!
Steve

Thanks Steve :)

Second Hand Pat
04-23-2015, 07:45 AM
Despite the eggs going white I left the eggs on the cone to see what the parents would do. As of last night the female was still tending the eggs. I will remove the eggs today and maybe the male will do his job next time.

Rudustin
04-23-2015, 08:57 AM
Sorry to hear that Rufus :( Are you still female shy?
Yes, Pat I am still a discus house of men and very few females. That is why I ordered four Giant Floras from Kenny to see if there might be a female in there. We shall see. By the way Little Guy is no longer little. He is almost as big as Big Guy!

Second Hand Pat
04-23-2015, 08:59 AM
Yes, Pat I am still a discus house of men and very few females. That is why I ordered four Giant Floras from Kenny to see if there might be a female in there. We shall see. By the way Little Guy is no longer little. He is almost as big as Big Guy!

That is very cool Rufus. Is he as pretty as big guy?

Rudustin
04-23-2015, 09:13 AM
That is very cool Rufus. Is he as pretty as big guy? Pat, Well, nothing is as pretty as Big Guy but he comes in a close second. He is darker around the fins and has bars a lot of the time. He is not as thick as Big Guy. Rufus

Second Hand Pat
04-23-2015, 09:17 AM
Pat, Well, nothing is as pretty as Big Guy but he comes in a close second. He is darker around the fins and has bars a lot of the time. He is not as thick as Big Guy. Rufus

Rufus, does he have a halo? if so might be a female.
Pat

Rudustin
04-23-2015, 09:31 AM
Pat, He does sort of have a halo. I will try to take a picture of him and send to you on your mobile. Rufus

Kyla
04-25-2015, 06:54 PM
pat, when u tried to cage the eggs what type of material did u use?

Second Hand Pat
04-25-2015, 07:42 PM
Kyla, it is a plastic coated wire. Someone was nice enough to send it to me.
Pat

Second Hand Pat
06-04-2015, 08:51 PM
There two were going at it again and will drive me boogers in the end.

She wants to breed.

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but first they have to fight...

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and he concedes

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So I check them a little bit ago. She laying and he is wondering about the tank like he didn't have a clue. Wild fish are not nearly so hard :crazy:

rickztahone
06-04-2015, 11:44 PM
seriously, I can't believe how tall and round these guys are. To me, this is the mold for discus roundness. TFS and good luck with the prized fighters, lol.

Second Hand Pat
06-04-2015, 11:50 PM
Ricardo, these are big fish and they are not done growing. Measured the male at just 7 inches yesterday. The female is a tab over six now.

rickztahone
06-04-2015, 11:51 PM
Ricardo, these are big fish and they are not done growing. Measured the male at just 7 inches yesterday. The female is a tab over six now.

simply amazing. Can't wait to have discus again and grow some large slabs.