Need help with my discus

[Nexo]

So my discus has been growing white spots on them and their fins are all of a sudden breaking.


Some medicine I gave it were PraziPro which I gave it 1 week ago. I also gave it some Liquid Super Ick Cure around 2 days ago. The other medicine that I gave it was Melafix which I gave it 1 day ago.
I don't know what to do no more 1 of them already died from this.

Ph LEVEL- 6.37
PPM- 500
uQ- 848
Temp- 84 F
Fish Tank Size- 65 gallons (Change around 1+ gallon every 2 day) Tank has been running for 3 months plus cleaned filter every week and we have around 15 discus in the tank

The tool I'm using to measure that is this HI98129 pH/Conductivity/TDS Tester
I have no clue what PPM and uQ is all I know is what PH does.

[brewmaster15]

HI,
We really need you to fill this in..

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?38545-Disease-Questionnaire-please-complete

And some pics would help.

Thanks!
al

[Nexo]

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[John_Nicholson]

Am I reading that right? You are changing roughly 1 gallon of water every two days? If so you are simple killing your fish with meds and bad water.

-john

[Nexo]

Am I reading that right? You are changing roughly 1 gallon of water every two days? If so you are simple killing your fish with meds and bad water.

-john

Well I just started to change the water when their symptoms of that started to appear.


Do you know what I should do?

[John_Nicholson]

First step is you need to start changing about 50% - 75% of the water a day. Once you do that for a couple of weeks let me know how they are doing.

-john

[brewmaster15]

First step is you need to start changing about 50% - 75% of the water a day. Once you do that for a couple of weeks let me know how they are doing.

-john

John,
This has moved beyond water changes.. :( agree more are needed...but the fish now have an established bacterial infection. The tail and fin erosion plus patchy white is a sign of major issues there,imo.

Hth,
al


I would suggest some serious water changes and an antibiotic Like furan 2.

[John_Nicholson]

I understand what you are saying but until the WC's get dramatically increases it will do no good to treat at all.

-john

[brewmaster15]

I understand what you are saying but until the WC's get dramatically increases it will do no good to treat at all.

-john

John, We will have to disagree. Clean water can only do so much. This members fish need more than several weeks of water changes. I agree that they are a must here, and the lack of them probably caused this. Good water quality will often prevent this kind of infection from happening... but doings water changes for a couple of weeks alone is most likely not going to help at this point. Its not going to turn around fish that have already had their immune systems compromised like this.Once a bacterial infection is established and systemic like this. These fish have gone beyond that, imo.

Al

[John_Nicholson]

I think in reality we agree it is just a red neck talking to a yankee kind of miscommunication. A horse before the cart kind of dilemma as it were. He has already been throwing meds at them so I simple think think a little break from meds might be in order but in reality we are splinting hairs.

-john

[brewmaster15]

I think in reality we agree it is just a red neck talking to a yankee kind of miscommunication. A horse before the cart kind of dilemma as it were. He has already been throwing meds at them so I simple think think a little break from meds might be in order but in reality we are splinting hairs.

-john

If I thought these fish had the time, we wouldn't need to split hairs on this one...I'd be all for trying some good old fashion water changes if the fish were a little off.... But the OP has already lost one, and has 15 discus in 65 gallon tank and they aren't looking so hot.They have fin rot, external bacterial infections, clamped fins and are listless. That tanks crashing.


al

[brewmaster15]

Nexo,
I really need the questionaire filled out. Its important to know whats going on in the tank. I'd also like to see a picture of the whole tank so I can gauge how bad off they all are.

Thanks,
al

[Nexo]

Problem

1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?
My fish is growing white slime on the body and fins breaking


2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds). Darking, headstanding and tailstanding. rotting and fungus


3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.
Some medicine I gave it were PraziPro which I gave it 1 week ago. I also gave it some Liquid Super Ick Cure around 2 days ago. The other medicine that I gave it was Melafix which I gave it 1 day ago.



Tank/Water

4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.
Tank size 65 gallons. Age is around 2 months and 15+ fishes

5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).
1+ gallon each 2 days


6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?
Tank been running for 2 months

7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.
Age of water is 1 month and PH is 6.5


8. Parameters and water source;

Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.


- temp 85

- ph 6.5

- ammonia reading ____

- nitrite reading ____

- nitrate reading ____

What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.
- municipal water


9. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.
No