NADA Rack Build Date

[Keith Perkins]

As was discussed at the last MWDA gathering we're going to be building the racks for the NADA show at Wes' place closer to the show date. His address is 693 Kensington Way, Bolingbrook and you can PM him for his phone number if you want it. The dates Wes has suggested for the build are either Saturday June 4 or the following week on the 11th. We didn't talk about a start time, but I'll throw out a 9 o'clock start time for a discussion point. I know these dates are a ways off yet but thought I'd put it out there now in case you already know of an absolute conflict. Personally the 4th would work slightly better for me, but it doesn't matter all that much. As I'm writing this listening to the rain pounding down the thought occurred to me that maybe we could plan on the build happening on the 4th and using the 11th as a rain date. Looking for every ones thoughts. Here's who I have listed as being interested in helping with the build:

Ardan
Bill
Jeff
Josh
Josie
Keith
Saykham
Wes

[John_Nicholson]

A bit of advice......be sure to check with the tank supplier to get the correct size of the tanks...lol...trust me it will help.

-john

[Keith Perkins]

Already went to the store John and found one of their 20Hs and measured it myself. Their website dimensions were correct by the way. :)

[John_Nicholson]

Also remember you have to have a little extra room for the cords.

[Discus-n00b]

And think about some center support or diagonal bracing if the span is a good length or its shoddy wood lol. Save me and John a trip to Lowes ;) ;)

[Wes]

Ardan
Bill
Jeff
Josh
Josie
Keith
Saykham
Wes
Mike (cjr8420)

[Keith Perkins]

Hmm, Mike is the second thing I know of that I didn't hear during that part of the "meeting". Glad you're a good secretary Wes.

[John_Nicholson]

With that many folks you will have this deal knocked out i less than an hour.....

-john

[Josh1779]

Either date should work fine for me as well. Let me know if you need me to bring anything.

[Ardan]

June 4th Renee and I can both be there. The following weekend I should be able to make it, she has to work.
Looking forward to it!

Ardan

[Wes]

Thought that I would check in with the build crew. Lunch will be brats and Italian sausage, baked beans and coleslaw. I will have regular- diet soda and water. Bring your swim suits if you want to cool off. I think Keith suggested 9 am which is good for me.

[Altum Nut]

Measure twice....cut once
Not to worry...I think you all have some Bob Villa in you to make it work.

...Ralph

[Keith Perkins]

Measure twice....cut once
Not to worry...I think you all have some Bob Villa in you to make it work.

...Ralph

I don't know about Bob Villa, but Jim Beam is just about guaranteed.

[Bill63SG]

4th works for me.

[Keith Perkins]

1 week to the NADA show tank rack build!

[Bill63SG]

Plywood is on my crane.Going to try and drop at wes tuesday

[Keith Perkins]

Plywood is on my crane.Going to try and drop at wes tuesday

Cool. Looking forward to seeing everyone.

[Wes]

Bill dropped off the plywood so I finished the sample table .

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With the legs folded up for storage.

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Some supplies

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Can't wait to get the crew working on these this Saturday. By the way bring your swim suits the pool water temperature is 85 degrees.

[Bill63SG]

Nice!Good thing I got my body in summer shape.

[John_Nicholson]

Nice but I might push the legs out a little closer to the ends.

-john

[Wes]

Nice but I might push the legs out a little closer to the ends.

-john

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A leg every 4 feet when all bolted together it will be a very even distribution of weight.

[nc0gnet0]

except for the ends of the rack.........

[nc0gnet0]

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A leg every 4 feet when all bolted together it will be a very even distribution of weight.

if you place tanks starting from the end, essentially you will have the weight of 4 tanks in between two legs. My concern is when this happens in the section where two tables are bolted together, the weight will mostly be distributed across those bolts. This is your weakest link.

[Altum Nut]

I was thinking the same. Seeing that legs are folding...can they be secured at the ends just like any picnic table and then add a single support in between when setting up racks. Then bolting rack end together will not be an issue.

...Ralph

[Keith Perkins]

I was thinking the same. Seeing that legs are folding...can they be secured at the ends just like any picnic table and then add a single support in between when setting up racks. Then bolting rack end together will not be an issue.

...Ralph

The legs aren't really folding Ralph. They're being bolted per John's diagram, the only difference is that rather than completely disassembling them for transport we're leaving one loosened bolt in and using it as a pivot point. This will save us time putting one bolt back in, but more importantly save us time finding the right leg for the right spot. Actually I plan to use a template so all the bolt holes are in the same spot on all the legs, but still it's one less thing to go wrong.

I agree with the legs at the end of each row, we'll probably push those out a foot.

[Wes]

if you place tanks starting from the end, essentially you will have the weight of 4 tanks in between two legs. My concern is when this happens in the section where two tables are bolted together, the weight will mostly be distributed across those bolts. This is your weakest link.

I guess its better to have 6 tanks between the legs. :crazy: I will drive my f150 over a couple bolted together to test the strength.

[Altum Nut]

We are all confident that the Nada racks will hold up just fine. :thumbsup:
Just wish more of us were able to help with the build :)

...Ralph

[Allwin]

See u Wes tomorrow.

[rickztahone]

I guess its better to have 6 tanks between the legs. :crazy: I will drive my f150 over a couple bolted together to test the strength.

I have no doubt that with distributed weight these racks will hold up your f150. However, I believe what others are trying to say is that if during setup, someone starts loading up the tanks on either side of the rack (left or right), then you do not have even weight distribution as you are setting them up. I assume you will have a lot of hands on deck that day and mistakes happen. It is better to address that weak point now and not chance it that everyone will start from the middle out. Peace of mind and all.

[Kingdom Come Discus]

May your day flow smoothly tomorrow guys.

[Josh1779]

I'll see you guys in the morning. Let me know if you guys need me to bring anything.

[Bill63SG]

98434

Had to leave a little early to pick up a car before the shop closed. Rain had nothing to do with it.

[Allwin]

Good team work and had a great time.

[Wes]

Thank you Ardan, Allwin, Kirby, Josh, Bill, Mike and Keith. You guys make a great construction crew.

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DONE.

[Keith Perkins]

If it wasn't for the rain, it would have been a perfect day. The help was good, and Wes did a great job getting supplies, setting things up for the day, and the food was awesome. Even had just enough extra lumber to handle the curve ball I tossed out after lunch. :thumbsup:

If today was any indication, it's going to be an awesome show.

[Bill63SG]

Shout out to Wes for the tools and food and big shout out to Mike for being a great anchor man in this project.Having a professional carpenter there did not hurt at all.And everyone else for showing up.Many hands.

[Second Hand Pat]

Nice guys, well done. :D
Pat

[Discus_KC]

Looking forward to seeing the crew that built it!

[Kal-El]

Great job. They all look good. sorry I couldn't make it to help as I had to travel out of town for a baby shower and birthday party. Looks like lots of helper. That's team work right there.

[RogueDiscus]

Are those fresh brats!? Mmm, can't wait till the show. Then I'm visiting family in Milwaukee. Will definitly be looking for brats and kielbasa.

[Keith Perkins]

Are those fresh brats!? Mmm, can't wait till the show. Then I'm visiting family in Milwaukee. Will definitly be looking for brats and kielbasa.

There were fresh brats and Italian sausage. I eat a lot of brats so I decided to go for the Italian sausage. They were sooooooo good. I don't know what Wes paid for all that food, but it was a damn nice contribution to nada.

[Ardan]

It sure was a great time! What a team:) The planning that Wes and Keith put into this really made things go well. Wes, what a fantastic job you did getting everything ready, including the food, drinks..... the list goes on! Thank you!
Thanks to all! Great to work with all of you!
Ardan

[Wes]

I figured we needed something to move stuff in and out of the show.
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Its 18 by 30, so I thought big enough if we were putting on a guppy show but not for a NADA show. We had a couple extra 2x4s so I used the casters from the little dolly and supersized it 38 by 48.

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It could carry 5 or 6 tables at a time. I will put a piece of ply on it to carry the tanks or other big stuff.

[Bill63SG]

The right man for the job!

[Keith Perkins]

That dolly is as big as one of Brandon's glasses of Scotch! That'll make hauling in the racks easy. The Aqueon tanks will be delivered to right outside the meeting space, so we won't have far to go with them.

[Bill63SG]

Ive got a 2-wheel dolly-cart like UPS use,the one we used at the GCCA show,Keith,if you remember.I can bring that or drop it at Wes also.

[Keith Perkins]

Ive got a 2-wheel dolly-cart like UPS use,the one we used at the GCCA show,Keith,if you remember.I can bring that or drop it at Wes also.

I've got a rapidly growing pile of door prizes and raffle items at my house that a 2 wheeler would be great for, thanks.