Learning

[Bc chick]

Well this is my first Forum ever and of course I'm lost already not sure where I post my question if it's not discus related

[chuckiesmalls]

you post it right where you asked your original question. LOL

welcome to simplydiscus

[Second Hand Pat]

Go ahead and ask your question BC. We can always move the thread. :) Welcome to Simply.
Pat

[Bc chick]

Oh ok lol. I am starting on a discus tank going to pick up tank in the next week. Cant wait. So excited. My question is about my current community tank. Has a angel, pictus, vampire pleco (my baby) a regular pleco, barbs tetras n rummies. Well one rummie disappeared over night...poof gone...i took out all decor and theres no where esle to hide. Is it possible he was eating overnight? Carcuss n all???

[Second Hand Pat]

Check around the tank and see if it jumped out.
Pat

[Bc chick]

I did already....nothing. unless it got under some how. Could there have been a culprit?

[Second Hand Pat]

Maybe one of the Plecos?

[Bc chick]

Yeah I'm thinking. Are there live chat rooms here somewhere?

[Second Hand Pat]

Sorry, not on this forum.
Pat

[Bc chick]

When im looking for my thread, is the only way by using the search bar?

[rickztahone]

When im looking for my thread, is the only way by using the search bar?

no, the easiest way is as follows:

towards the upper right, right under the yellow banners, you will see these options:
View First Unread
Thread Tools
Search Thread
Rate This Thread
Click on "thread tools" and you will see a drop down menu. From that drop down menu, select "subscribe to thread"

Once you have done this, you will simply be able to go to your subscriptions by doing the following:

Top right corner. Click on "settings"
Go down to "my subscriptions" section
Click on "subscriptions"

and any thread whom you have "subscribed" to, will appear there.

I hope this helps.

Welcome to SimplyDiscus. The best discus forum on the net ;)

[LizStreithorst]

What size tank are you buying. From whom will you be buying your Discus?

Oh, sorry...welcome to Simply.

[Bc chick]

I getting a 100g not sure where I'm getting fish yet. Was going to start a thread asking. I'm I Canada and it seems not many ship here. I only know of a couple so far. It will take me a month to 6 weeks to get my background so I have time ��

[rickztahone]

We have a few sponsors in Canada. Also, one of our members, Paul (DiscusPaul) knows many people in Canada and can point you in the right direction I am sure. He is a very experienced member here and I value his input and would be a great resource for you.

Here's his profile if you are interested:
http://forum.simplydiscus.com/member.php?23034-discuspaul

[Bc chick]

Thank you so much rickztahone. Sub tip very helpful. Sponsors, is that under the marketplace? If they are listed under Canada, does that mean they ship here?

[rickztahone]

Thank you so much rickztahone. Sub tip very helpful. Sponsors, is that under the marketplace? If they are listed under Canada, does that mean they ship here?

Yes, that means they are a Canadian supplier. April, Rick, and Van all sell discus as far as I am concerned.

[LizStreithorst]

Click on "FORUM" right under the Simply Discus logo. Scroll down to "Marketplace". All the sponsors and their locations are listed there.

[Bc chick]

Why don't I see my last question under new posts....I did something wrong

[LizStreithorst]

You may have. Forums are hard at first until you figure out how everything works. I've been on forums since God created dirt and I still make the occasional mistake. Did you post your question to this thread or to a sponsor?

[Bc chick]

Not sure lol it's called pool sand?

[Bc chick]

Sorry... pool filter sand

[Bc chick]

Do you see it?

[rickztahone]

Click on your name on the left hand side

<------------

Then, from the scroll down menu, hit "view forum posts"

[Bc chick]

Not sure I follow. That shows me what I posted but wondered why I didn't see it under new posts. I think I just didn't wait long enough

[DJW]

"New Posts" doesn't show your own posts... if someone responds it will show up there.

[Second Hand Pat]

You will not see your most recently created post because the forum considers that you've already read it. So basically it is not considered a new post for you.
Pat

[Altum Nut]

Not sure I follow. That shows me what I posted but wondered why I didn't see it under new posts. I think I just didn't wait long enough

Is this the one your looking for...http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?124957-Pool-filter-sand&p=1219225&highlight=#post1219225

...Ralph

[Bc chick]

Yes thanks ralph. I got it now Pat thx!

[Bc chick]

Ralph im in thunder bay. Getting a 3d background from aquadecor in Toronto

[Altum Nut]

I just checked their website and may I say...very impressive.... So life like.
I think there Head Office is in Mississauga ON.
Keep us updated on your progress and feel free to ask on advise or suggestions when your in need....here on SD there is no dumb question.

...Ralph

[Bc chick]

Why my first dumb move was posting my question on my visitor page I thought I was the visitor and that's why I posted my question LOL

[Bc chick]

Im very excited about it. He sent pictures and i picked different things from different pics. Hes doing up a drawing next week

[Kyla]

im in tbay also. there are a few discus keepers here, some of which u can connect with on our local facebook fish group.

a few of us have done group fish orders for discus from bc aqua farms, alberta discus and spencers in Winnipeg and we saved $ by splitting the shipping cost.

it is always best to buy discus from vendors who are vetted by the simply discus forum. dont buy discus locally at ANY of our pet shops - they are very low quality stock, are listed at too high of a price, and are often sick upon arrival. dont be afraid to have discus air-shipped to thunder bay airport, the vendors are quite good about getting them here alive. it is best to have the discus shipped in warmer weather, if u can arrange it.

i would also recommend u pick up some freeze dried blackworm from bc aqua farms and have them on hand to feed the discus when they arrive. shipping of the FDBW is free to your door and the discus go crazy for it.

[Kyla]

you also need to prepare now for our upcoming change to municipal water, if u are using city water for your discus.

tbay is planning to add sodium hydroxide to our water supply next year and this will increase the ph of your tap water to above 9.

to neutralize the sodium hydroxide and lower the ph u will have to age the water for your water changes in a barrel and aerate it for a day and then heat it to tank temperature before adding it to your discus tank during water changes. if you try to do a water change with straight tap water your discus will be exposed to severe ph swings and this could harm them.

if u are in the current river water test zone attached to the hodder water station your ph may already be above 9 as they are adding sodium hydroxide to the water supply for those houses already.

[Bc chick]

Hi there nice to meet someone who's actually in Thunder Bay thanks for all the info I didn't know that about our water I've already been worried about my pH levels at that as they are are 7.8 what are your levels at without aging your water and what about an RO machine that I've been hearing about

[Bc chick]

Will all the threads i start show under new posts?

[LizStreithorst]

No. Click on your own user name. With this forum I think that as soon as you do that you will see "all threads started" If not, you will see something called "stats". click on that it you will see the option "all threads started". Every forum is a bit different.

[Bc chick]

I started a thread and havent received any responses. Wondered if i did something wrong

[Bc chick]

Do u see it under new posts? "Ph levels are up"

[Bc chick]

What makes a post "hot" and why is there a reply under each persons comment? Does this tell them i am replying specifically to them?

[Kyla]

this is my normal ph reading from tap

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/kylasfish/Mobile%20Uploads/FB1F2A89-CCCF-4FAA-985F-8BC89382B307_zpsarbxkkgv.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/kylasfish/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FB1F2A89-CCCF-4FAA-985F-8BC89382B307_zpsarbxkkgv.jpg.html)

so your reading is prob fine. you must not be in the test zone because THIS (dark purple!!) reading is what u will see when the sodium hydroxide is added to the water...

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/kylasfish/Mobile%20Uploads/C21A813C-026E-471D-A3F0-3E4A90C37A69_zpsmbelrtj9.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/kylasfish/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C21A813C-026E-471D-A3F0-3E4A90C37A69_zpsmbelrtj9.jpg.html)

[Kyla]

i looked into making RO but because my tanks are large (180gal and 210gal) id be making a ton of RO every week, and wasting a LOT of water... so i chose to just age the water instead.

if u aerate water that has sodium hydroxide in it for a day the CO2 in the atmosphere will react with the sodium hydroxide and the ph will drop back down to appropriate levels. here is an old thread that discussed the issue

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?123110-Ultra-Filtration-to-remove-Sodium-Hydroxide&highlight=


and i found my original question thread too, ill update it later today with the test results so it is complete

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?122268-pH-up-to-9-6-(due-to-Sodium-Hydroxide)&highlight=

[Bc chick]

Making ro lol didnt know you make it. Thought it was a filter machine for the tap. Havent had a chance to look into it. So i guess theres a constant cost for osmosis?

[DJW]

With a typical RO filter, it takes around 4 gallons of water to make 1 gallon of filtered water. Your water bill goes up. Even with a private well the pump runs more, so there is some cost for the added electricity, and life of the pump is shortened.

[Bc chick]

Interesting. Sounds like aging is the way to go.

[LizStreithorst]

You do not need RO unless you want to breed a pair! How many times do I have to say this? It will cost you unnecessary money and time for nothing! I can't understand why you are still considering it as an option.

[Bc chick]

You only have to say it once. I like to know as much info as possible. This is something that is happening to our water in a year or so from now. Im gonna want to breed at some point in the future!

[Kyla]

aging is def the way to go, much cheaper and very effective too! it gets rid of microbubbles in the tap water that irritate the fish, and ensures there are no changes in the water parameters after the water is added to the tank. your fish will really appreciate aged water.

[Kyla]

if u havent already watched it, check out this very informative video. it has a ton of great info and is a must-watch for any new discus keeper.

http://youtu.be/VXe3VKh7qF8

[Bc chick]

Watched it last night. Great info. Should be a requirment to watch as part as the registration process. Lol. So the micro bubbles are harmful. Wouldnt aging for this reason alone be good? Or still only if breeding?

[Kyla]

yes, reducing microbubbles is a good reason to age water, and in addition to this the aging process ensures the water parameters are stable before the water is put into your fish tank.

many ppl find that there is a ph shift in their tap water during the aging process (either the ph raises or lowers, depending on the water chemistry). if ph fluctuates during aging, and the tap water is added directly to a fish tank instead of being aged first, the fish are subjected to these water parameter fluctuations and it stresses them, possibly leading to issues with their health. thats why aging the water is good for when keeping fish AND for breeding them.

RO water is generally only needed when breeding discus, eg if the water is too hard the fertilization of the eggs can be negatively affected so RO can help soften the water in these cases. some ppl do use RO water mixed with their tap water even when not breeding discus, but you wont need to. here in our city the water is fine as-is for keeping discus and even for breeding them. ive had zillions of eggs hatch in regular tap water, so if u want to breed discus in tbay you may not need RO at all (although it may increase the hatch rate).

[Kyla]

sorry i just realized i called it "bc aqua farm" in the previous post but its actually canadian aqua farm where i get freeze dried black worms for my discus

http://stores.canadianaquafarm.com

[Bc chick]

How long to i age to test ph? Is just a small bucket good enough or should it be a large amout. What about the air stone, how big?

[Bc chick]

This makes sence. They always seem stressed after wc

[DJW]

How long to i age to test ph? Is just a small bucket good enough or should it be a large amout. What about the air stone, how big?

Any old clean bucket 2/3 full, any old airstone that makes bubbles. The only critical thing is that you measure the pH carefully. Measure once at 0 hours, again at 12 hours +/- and again at 24 hours.

[LizStreithorst]

I'd use a 5 gallon bucket.

[Bc chick]

Will the swing be the same as kyla as shes in the same city or not necessarily?

[Kyla]

Will the swing be the same as kyla as shes in the same city or not necessarily?

the massive pH drop i described was not from my tap water. it was done as a test on a water sample which contained sodium hydroxide. the city provided me with this water sample so i could test whether aging and aeration would neutralize the sodium hydroxide in the sample and lower the pH to more discus-appropriate levels.

sodium hydroxide will be added to all city water in 2017, but right now only a small area of the city has sodium hydroxide in their water becauae the city is still in the "test phase" and they are taking samples from the Hodder area. if your pH is not currently above 9 you are not in the test area and you prob wont see anywhere near the pH shift i described from the sample test.

that being said, it is still best to age your current tap water for water changes. def interested to know if you see a pH change when u age ur water.

[Bc chick]

In the process right now. Just did the 12hr test. No change. Is that possible? 24hr test next at 8pm

[Bc chick]

Any old clean bucket 2/3 full, any old airstone that makes bubbles. The only critical thing is that you measure the pH carefully. Measure once at 0 hours, again at 12 hours +/- and again at 24 hours.

Whats +/-?

[LizStreithorst]

more or less

[DJW]

Whats +/-?

Sorry, that's shorthand for "more or less".

[Bc chick]

What about my aging question? Is it possible for no change after 12? What does this tell me and do i still wait another 12hrs before next test?

[Kyla]

What about my aging question? Is it possible for no change after 12? What does this tell me and do i still wait another 12hrs before next test?

the last time i age-tested my regular tap water i didnt see any change, so you may not see a ph shift either. might as well still do another 12 hours just to be sure, tho.

[Bc chick]

Why do u age your water than? My fish seem to loose their colors after water changes. I thought maybe a swing stressed them out. Why else do the loose coloring?

[Kyla]

Why do u age your water than? My fish seem to loose their colors after water changes. I thought maybe a swing stressed them out. Why else do the loose coloring?

the microbubbles stress them out with water changes straight from tap. and in our case we are going to have to age the water in 2017 anyway, so we may as well set up an efficient system for doing it now. you are already ahead of the game because you are thinking about these things and researching them BEFORE u have the fish, so u can have the optimal set-up when they arrive. and taking advice from experts on this forum is the surest way to success with discus. the hobbyists here have helped me immensely!

also they way i figure it, pH is one single parameter that we test for in the water. i suspect there is a LOT going on in our water that we are totally unaware of, and so aging the water before adding it to the tank is the safest way to remove any unknowns, even if we dont detect pH fluctuations during the age-test. thats just my 2 cents...

[Bc chick]

I hate the microbubble. I go around n pop em all. Is this harmful?

[Bc chick]

Where are you getting your barrels?

[Kyla]

Where are you getting your barrels?

i needed a large barrel because my tanks are large and i use a lot of water for wc. i picked this storage tank up locally at Miller Precast but it was SUPER expensive... Rosslyn Service had a variety of these water tanks too.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/kylasfish/Mobile%20Uploads/522E987D-9C3F-4A34-A02C-0B0CE4E839C6_zpsltjnx3he.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/kylasfish/media/Mobile%20Uploads/522E987D-9C3F-4A34-A02C-0B0CE4E839C6_zpsltjnx3he.jpg.html)

but u can use smaller, more affordable bins for smaller wc. i have a brute garbage can on a wheeled dolly that i use on a tank in the community. i picked it up from Home Depot. its nice because u can store it in a back room and wheel it out when needed. it does the trick.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/kylasfish/Mobile%20Uploads/1210ABDE-8EBC-45C1-A52F-E33431F9E491_zpsqeqqebih.jpg (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/kylasfish/media/Mobile%20Uploads/1210ABDE-8EBC-45C1-A52F-E33431F9E491_zpsqeqqebih.jpg.html)

[Bc chick]

Nice. Ill check there. I painted on a practice piece of glass. Trying to get sand look. Im happy with the outcome. I dont know how to post it here cuz i posted in another thread already but check out the pic in thread "pool filter sand"

[LizStreithorst]

I got very lucky on water storage containers. I found a place 3 miles down the road that sold used food grade ones cheap. I paid $135. each for my 2 250 gallon ones, $40. each for my 2 my 50 gallon ones, and $35. for my 30 gallon one. Check Craig's list and also a local advertising paper if you have one in your area. If there are fish breeders in your area that you can get with they might be able to help you, too.

[Bc chick]

Yes kyla lives in my town 😀

[DJW]

Check farm supply places too. I found some 50g food grade barrels with heavy duty screw-on lids with a smaller threaded lid on the center of the big lid. They even have plumbing connections on the bottom. Only $38 each. Maybe they had them priced wrong, a helluva deal.

[megatrev62]

I hate the microbubble. I go around n pop em all. Is this harmful?

They could spray in your face. Be careful.

[Bc chick]

Check farm supply places too. I found some 50g food grade barrels with heavy duty screw-on lids with a smaller threaded lid on the center of the big lid. They even have plumbing connections on the bottom. Only $38 each. Maybe they had them priced wrong, a helluva deal.

Are lids important?

[LizStreithorst]

Not as far as I'm concerned

[Bc chick]

Not as far as I'm concerned

Could you explain a set up for me. Your talking about valves in another post. Then theres talk of plumbing...wouldnt mind getting it right the first time and have a nice easy set up

[LizStreithorst]

You don't need what I have. I'm taking care of entire fish room every day.

[Bc chick]

What do the double blue arrows beside envelopes mean?

[DISCUS STU]

When im looking for my thread, is the only way by using the search bar?

If you click on your username at the top of the page it will take you to your page setup. Then click on "Find latest posts" or "Find latest started threads" on the left hand side of the page. This will take you to your stuff.

[Bc chick]

If you click on your username at the top of the page it will take you to your page setup. Then click on "Find latest posts" or "Find latest started threads" on the left hand side of the page. This will take you to your stuff.

Thx. What about the blue arrows beside the red envelopes?

[Second Hand Pat]

Those arrows are the threads you have posted in.
Pat

[Bc chick]

Those arrows are the threads you have posted in.
Pat

Im looking in the tank journal and wonderin why they all have them other than mine n a few others

[Bc chick]

for my 100 gal i plan on getting 10 discus. Is a fluval 406 enough filteration? I want to aviod sponge filters

[pastry]

for my 100 gal i plan on getting 10 discus. Is a fluval 406 enough filteration? I want to aviod sponge filters

Yes but I'd add at least the fluval 106 or 206 too. Or hob. Or submersible with poret foam on intake for flow and minor supplemental filtration. As long as just the 10 discus. Haven't read whole thread yet.

[Bc chick]

Yes but I'd add at least the fluval 106 or 206 too. Or hob. Or submersible with poret foam on intake for flow and minor supplemental filtration. As long as just the 10 discus. Haven't read whole thread yet.

when people refer to filter on intake does that mean pop off the screen on intake and stick foam in there? Wouldnt this stop debris from being sucked out of tank?

[DJW]

If you put a prefilter sponge on the filter intake it keeps the uneaten bits of food and crud from going into the filter where it accumulates and rots. It is much easier to clean (daily) the little prefilter sponge than it is to get into the canister.

With a prefilter you will be surprised how much stuff it catches that would otherwise be inside the filter, out of sight & out of mind. There will be fewer bacteria and other troublemakers in the water if the larger food and gunk is not allowed to decompose. You siphon the tank bottom for the same reason.

https://www.amazon.com/Fluval-A1387-EDGE-Pre-Filter-Sponge/dp/B002LL32RY

[Bc chick]

If you put a prefilter sponge on the filter intake it keeps the uneaten bits of food and crud from going into the filter where it accumulates and rots. It is much easier to clean (daily) the little prefilter sponge than it is to get into the canister.

With a prefilter you will be surprised how much stuff it catches that would otherwise be inside the filter, out of sight & out of mind. There will be fewer bacteria and other troublemakers in the water if the larger food and gunk is not allowed to decompose. You siphon the tank bottom for the same reason.

https://www.amazon.com/Fluval-A1387-EDGE-Pre-Filter-Sponge/dp/B002LL32RY

makes sence. You should check out aliexpress from accessories. Most of site is free ship and cant take 4-6 weeks to get but cheap. 3 pkg fluval intake filters $2.27

[Jack L]

bcchick, if you are still in planning phase, look into getting a tank with sump system. i've done most types of filtration over the years and likely won't have another tank w/o a sump.

[Jack L]

Where are you getting your barrels?

i found some 55 gallon white barrels for 10 or 15 bucks on craigslist, keep an eye out there.

on ph, my ph stopped changing after 4 hours or so being exposed to air

my water is hard, and i don't like the limescale on my tank, so i mix RO into it just to not have to deal with limescale.

[Bc chick]

bcchick, if you are still in planning phase, look into getting a tank with sump system. i've done most types of filtration over the years and likely won't have another tank w/o a sump.

hmmmmm. I'll check out some videos on it but im not good when it comes to plumbing and diy stuff. I know nothing about sub pumps, but isnt it pretty much just a open canaster but in a tank?

[Bc chick]

i found some 55 gallon white barrels for 10 or 15 bucks on craigslist, keep an eye out there.

on ph, my ph stopped changing after 4 hours or so being exposed to air

my water is hard, and i don't like the limescale on my tank, so i mix RO into it just to not have to deal with limescale.

Right now i dont need to age as my ph doesnt change but i want to age to eliminate micro bubble.. Next year our water will change and aging will be a must so im gonna start now to get a system in place

[MD.David]

For aging and expelling micro bubbles you can do a 45-55 gallon food grade drum, put and air stone and a transfer pump (most farm hardware stores like TPS or home hardware will have stuff like that) for around $100 (don't get one from a fish or pond store they might be little better but 10x's the price for the pumping power you can get else where).
Also you can hook up an auto feed value from your water source, this will make it super easy when you want it to refill.
I already have my tap temp preset, I merely open a Valve and it fills with correct temperature and i already have a heater preset in the bottom of the barrel.
Many members that are very serious about water changes, aging water , and treatment of the water prior to it entering the aquarium do set ups very similar to this one, some are more pretty some aren't but they all do the same job.
https://s31.postimg.org/v2qq4btbb/IMG_20160717_155944604.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/v2qq4btbb/)

Right now i dont need to age as my ph doesnt change but i want to age to eliminate micro bubble.. Next year our water will change and aging will be a must so im gonna start now to get a system in place

[Bc chick]

For aging and expelling micro bubbles you can do a 45-55 gallon food grade drum, put and air stone and a transfer pump (most farm hardware stores like TPS or home hardware will have stuff like that) for around $100 (don't get one from a fish or pond store they might be little better but 10x's the price for the pumping power you can get else where).
Also you can hook up an auto feed value from your water source, this will make it super easy when you want it to refill.
I already have my tap temp preset, I merely open a Valve and it fills with correct temperature and i already have a heater preset in the bottom of the barrel.
Many members that are very serious about water changes, aging water , and treatment of the water prior to it entering the aquarium do set ups very similar to this one, some are more pretty some aren't but they all do the same job.
https://s31.postimg.org/v2qq4btbb/IMG_20160717_155944604.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/v2qq4btbb/)

this valve hooks up to the sink? Or hot water tank?

[farebox]

I've been using a 70% and 30% mixture of tap, straight from the tap /with seachem safe, and RO/DI water for my every other day 50%+ water changes. Here in San Antonio TX our water is very hard. I measured ph 8.3. One time I did some breeding using RO/DI water so I could get the TDS down to around 84. Just my two cents in the discussion. Also I don't water test my water all the time, if the fish eat good, grow nicely, and seem happy I'm cool with my water in my 125G tank.....

[Bc chick]

I've been using a 70% and 30% mixture of tap, straight from the tap /with seachem safe, and RO/DI water for my every other day 50%+ water changes. Here in San Antonio TX our water is very hard. I measured ph 8.3. One time I did some breeding using RO/DI water so I could get the TDS down to around 84. Just my two cents in the discussion. Also I don't water test my water all the time, if the fish eat good, grow nicely, and seem happy I'm cool with my water in my 125G tank.....

i agree. I dont water test all the time unless cycling. When i do test, all is perfect. Its all about wc. I wont be useing ro water as i pay for water and im under the impression i dont need to unless i decide to breed. I do know that someone showed me a water sample from the other side of town and ph was in the 9's. I will have that water next year so i will have to age.

[MD.David]

I have it hooked up to my laundry tub tap (I have the hot and cold set to 82° temp, it took a bit to mess with it till I got the right temp), then a three stage inline filter, then to the auto filler valve which fills the food grade barrel.


this valve hooks up to the sink? Or hot water tank?

[MD.David]

PH in the 9's????
Oh dear!.. personally I don't like that at all.
After aging does it come back down?
Why is the pH so high?
You should watch this and come to your own conclusions of pH.
However, some may argue other reasons but I will say this; Jorg Stendker has been doing Discus breeding for quite a while and has access to the worlds most leading aqua marine biologist, I would consider what he says to be very legitimate.
https://youtu.be/r8Kb5mfmeeM

i agree. I dont water test all the time unless cycling. When i do test, all is perfect. Its all about wc. I wont be useing ro water as i pay for water and im under the impression i dont need to unless i decide to breed. I do know that someone showed me a water sample from the other side of town and ph was in the 9's. I will have that water next year so i will have to age.

[Bc chick]

PH in the 9's????
Oh dear!.. personally I don't like that at all.
After aging does it come back down?
Why is the pH so high?
You should watch this and come to your own conclusions of pH.
However, some may argue other reasons but I will say this; Jorg Stendker has been doing Discus breeding for quite a while and has access to the worlds most leading aqua marine biologist, I would consider what he says to be very legitimate.
https://youtu.be/r8Kb5mfmeeM

Refer to page 4 & 5 about my citys ph changing

[Jack L]

hmmmmm. I'll check out some videos on it but im not good when it comes to plumbing and diy stuff. I know nothing about sub pumps, but isnt it pretty much just a open canaster but in a tank?

yeah, you can think of it that way, but just bigger. so you will get more water in your setup, and can hide your gear in the sump.
there there is room to try different filtration options.

it all depends on what you want the finished product to look like.

just food for thought is all.

[Bc chick]

yeah, you can think of it that way, but just bigger. so you will get more water in your setup, and can hide your gear in the sump.
there there is room to try different filtration options.

it all depends on what you want the finished product to look like.

just food for thought is all.

It will have a 3d background that hides everthing so im good there, but what is the benefit to getting more water in system?

[MD.David]

I read the story, but I also seen your test kit, spend about $20 and get a digital tester pH pen, it's very accurate and fast.
When I switched over from the liquid test kits to a pH pen, it really helped me understand what my water was doing.
I would recommend the same.


Refer to page 4 & 5 about my citys ph changing

[Bc chick]

I read the story, but I also seen your test kit, spend about $20 and get a digital tester pH pen, it's very accurate and fast.
When I switched over from the liquid test kits to a pH pen, it really helped me understand what my water was doing.
I would recommend the same.

That wasnt my test but thats the exact kit i just bought

[Bc chick]

I have it hooked up to my laundry tub tap (I have the hot and cold set to 82° temp, it took a bit to mess with it till I got the right temp), then a three stage inline filter, then to the auto filler valve which fills the food grade barrel.

ok i follow up to 3 stage inline filte.. What is this. What does instalation involve? Can this be hooked to kitchen sink? Thats my only available tap. Auto filler valve? Does this just mean a valve you turn to fill barrel?