teslafan
08-09-2016, 02:12 PM
Problem
1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?
Our 4 year old Discus, Mr. Blue, was moved from his original tank 75 gallon tank to a 20 gallon tank. He was transported to a new house, was in transport container about 30 minutes.
He seemed fine the first 2 days and on day 3 we woke up to him headstanding. We have been researching swimbladder issues.
2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).
Headstanding
Tail fin - part of it came off today:cry:
Not eating
Slime all came off
Eyes cloudy
Turned dark
Dorsal fin is clamped
He seems to be breathing normally and his side fins are constantly in motion.
He is moving around the tank, but can't upright himself.
3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.
Lowered tank volume
Epsom Salt - 4 TBL - we have done this two times so far
Seachem Prime added
We are considering using Prazipro today
4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.
20 Gallon tall
1 Discus
4 years old - approx 7 inches
5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).
New tank. No water change yet.
6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?
Tank was set up on Aug 3rd. We brought a cycled sponge filter from his original tank. We brought him over on August 6th.
Substrate is 1 inch gravel
7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.
Yes, he was transported in a bag with aged water. His new tank has been set up/aged for a couple days prior to him being introduced.
8. Parameters and water source;
Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.
- temp _____85
- ph _____ n/a
- ammonia reading ____n/a
- nitrite reading ____n/a
- nitrate reading ____n/a
What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.
- well water ____no
- municipal water ____yes
- RO water ____no
9. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.
I added fake plants and gravel, he has never had them before. Not sure if this makes a difference or not.
10. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them
I'm devastated. I don't know if he is going to survive this move. He started out in a group of 9, and his last sibling passed away 2 months ago. When we moved, the thought was putting him in a smaller tank might cheer him up. He seemed depressed and was not eating regularly since his last sibling died. He became "flappy" and happy when I interacted with him over the past month or so and it appeared he was becoming happier.
He did well the first two days, he seemed to adjust and then Monday we woke up to him headstanding. It's killing me to see him like this. :cry::cry:
If we cannot heal him, can he live like this? Or would it be more human to euthanize him? I don't want to lose him. :(
Thank you in advance.
Here is a link to a photo I just took of him.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209249425968428&set=a.1815667347181.2105690.1105013314&type=3
1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?
Our 4 year old Discus, Mr. Blue, was moved from his original tank 75 gallon tank to a 20 gallon tank. He was transported to a new house, was in transport container about 30 minutes.
He seemed fine the first 2 days and on day 3 we woke up to him headstanding. We have been researching swimbladder issues.
2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).
Headstanding
Tail fin - part of it came off today:cry:
Not eating
Slime all came off
Eyes cloudy
Turned dark
Dorsal fin is clamped
He seems to be breathing normally and his side fins are constantly in motion.
He is moving around the tank, but can't upright himself.
3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.
Lowered tank volume
Epsom Salt - 4 TBL - we have done this two times so far
Seachem Prime added
We are considering using Prazipro today
4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.
20 Gallon tall
1 Discus
4 years old - approx 7 inches
5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).
New tank. No water change yet.
6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?
Tank was set up on Aug 3rd. We brought a cycled sponge filter from his original tank. We brought him over on August 6th.
Substrate is 1 inch gravel
7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.
Yes, he was transported in a bag with aged water. His new tank has been set up/aged for a couple days prior to him being introduced.
8. Parameters and water source;
Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.
- temp _____85
- ph _____ n/a
- ammonia reading ____n/a
- nitrite reading ____n/a
- nitrate reading ____n/a
What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.
- well water ____no
- municipal water ____yes
- RO water ____no
9. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.
I added fake plants and gravel, he has never had them before. Not sure if this makes a difference or not.
10. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them
I'm devastated. I don't know if he is going to survive this move. He started out in a group of 9, and his last sibling passed away 2 months ago. When we moved, the thought was putting him in a smaller tank might cheer him up. He seemed depressed and was not eating regularly since his last sibling died. He became "flappy" and happy when I interacted with him over the past month or so and it appeared he was becoming happier.
He did well the first two days, he seemed to adjust and then Monday we woke up to him headstanding. It's killing me to see him like this. :cry::cry:
If we cannot heal him, can he live like this? Or would it be more human to euthanize him? I don't want to lose him. :(
Thank you in advance.
Here is a link to a photo I just took of him.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209249425968428&set=a.1815667347181.2105690.1105013314&type=3