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Ryan925
08-31-2016, 11:44 PM
Hi guys I just started my 75G discus tank back in April. Before starting the tank I had decided on the python to make WCs easier. I thought the python would make WCs fast and easy.

If you are like me you have found the python is helpful, speeds up the process but is lacking. Even with the python changing 50%-80% is still a lengthy process.

I also found that I needed to have the faucet running in order to vac the tank. This was a lot of wasted water. After vac was done id shut down the faucet and the python would continue to drain the tank very slowly with the siphon.

After about 4 months of this I figured there had to be a better way. Since setting this up I have used it twice and it has been a breeze to wc. I actually find myself changing a larger volume since it is so quick and easy to drain and vac the tank.

I bought this small pump at home depot.

Connected python to intake side of pump.

I cut off some excess hose from python for outlet side

I made myself a similar faucet fitting to the python but use a ball valve at the bottom.

Then on the pump and vac away. I keep python just above sand and it sucks everything right up while leaving sand put. With the traditional python method I found some of the larger feces even had a hard time being sucked up. Once I'm done vacuuming and desired volume is drained. (minutes) I disconnect pump. I connect python to my adaptor. Close ball valve, turn faucet and fill-er-up

Next time I will time the process 100778100779100780100781

warblad79
09-01-2016, 01:03 AM
Someone already posted the same concept. I actually use this kind of setup myself. It's not new

scrappinjaime
09-01-2016, 01:20 AM
This is what I've been trying to figure out how to do. Does your drain go to the sink or some where else. Is the pump loud? I also have a 75 ��

Ryan925
09-01-2016, 01:27 AM
This is what I've been trying to figure out how to do. Does your drain go to the sink or some where else. Is the pump loud? I also have a 75 ��

Well thanks for that Warblad I wasn't trying to patent it just help some others. I've seen many wc too slow posts lately.

Jamie - yes drain goes to sink. Pump isn't quiet but not super loud.

warblad79
09-01-2016, 01:29 AM
Yes, the drain can go to sink or bathtub. Some people they would attach to the drain of the washer

Rxfisher
09-01-2016, 09:24 AM
Thanks for the post, cleaver idea. I'll be looking into doing the same

Phillydubs
09-01-2016, 09:46 AM
I believe the OP was saying that it is "new to him" not new as in hey guys I invented this idea

Ryan925
09-01-2016, 10:43 AM
I believe the OP was saying that it is "new to him" not new as in hey guys I invented this idea

That's correct Philly.

Plus for newer members like Jamie and myself, though ideas were posted before, they get lost in the shuffle over time. By bringing attention back to them new members can benefit from an old idea

DanDiscus
09-01-2016, 08:48 PM
It was good to see this posting. I just got a pump that I am planing to use in that way. The pictures help me to think in what way I want to connect it.

Thank you for sharing it.

Ryan925
09-02-2016, 01:03 AM
It was good to see this posting. I just got a pump that I am planing to use in that way. The pictures help me to think in what way I want to connect it.

Thank you for sharing it.

If you need any closeups or parts list lemme know

RobCarl
09-22-2016, 12:11 PM
Thanks for posting this. May not be new to others, but it was new to me. I assume you also use the system in reverse to fill? Many of the pumps say to use vegetable oil to prime. Seems like they would work ok without it. Just wondering of the experiences of others...

Ryan925
09-22-2016, 12:18 PM
Thanks for posting this. May not be new to others, but it was new to me. I assume you also use the system in reverse to fill? Many of the pumps say to use vegetable oil to prime. Seems like they would work ok without it. Just wondering of the experiences of others...

Good to hear. Was the whole reason for the post. It has made my wc a breeze. I just stick end of python in tank. Connect to my faucet adaptor, plug it in and it primes right up. I even leave pump running and lift python out of water to move to other side of my center brace. As soon as it's back in the water it primes instantly.

The suction is great. I can actually see debris from all sides of python getting drawn in. Don't have to be right above it.

When I'm done vac'ng and draining I disconnect pump and connect python directly to my faucet adaptor. I then match temp and fill without using the pump

RobCarl
09-22-2016, 01:38 PM
My water is extremely hard, so I have to RO it. I can't fill directly, so I'll be trying the pump to pump it back in from 5 gal buckets. I've been siphoning (5 gal buckets on a ladder...nightmare), so I'm hoping this makes things easier. Next step is to RO to a barrel so I can eliminate the 5 gal buckets.

BJK
12-20-2016, 12:34 PM
Good to hear. Was the whole reason for the post. It has made my wc a breeze. I just stick end of python in tank. Connect to my faucet adaptor, plug it in and it primes right up. I even leave pump running and lift python out of water to move to other side of my center brace. As soon as it's back in the water it primes instantly.

The suction is great. I can actually see debris from all sides of python getting drawn in. Don't have to be right above it.

When I'm done vac'ng and draining I disconnect pump and connect python directly to my faucet adaptor. I then match temp and fill without using the pump

Awesome write up! Was having trouble with my WC taking forever on my 125 with the python. Looking forward to building a similar contraption. Any closer pics of the faucet adapter you built? Thanks!

Leland F.
12-20-2016, 02:55 PM
We use them in plumbing to drain water heaters all the time. We call them transfer pumps, most are fairly quiet. Milwaukee just released a battery powered unit that runs on their small batteries. It's pretty sweet.

-Leland

Phillydubs
12-20-2016, 04:10 PM
Ryan, do you still hook it up to the sink? Couldn't you just get a hose and have it drain that way?

I set up a similar system with my new tank. I am using a little 1.6A pony pump we call them. Thing isn't super powerful but good enough to suck and drain my tank of 40-50 gallons in just a few minutes... I run the hose out the window and into the garden.

This thing has been a dream! No more buckets for me... I said it earlier but lately after each water change I sit back and say wow I am an idiot! I was so stubborn on my siphon and buckets, fool I am...

I literally don't spill a drop of water, changes are painless quick and efficient...

I highly recommend looking into a method like this for all of you not doing it, it will breathe new life back into your hobby...