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Second Hand Pat
11-23-2016, 12:42 PM
Had these guys about a week and they are a bit skinny and ratty from being recently import but they are active and eating like pigs. They will become tankmates to my F1 Altums which currently reside in the 230.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N92vNc_7co

Second Hand Pat
11-23-2016, 12:44 PM
This is what they will look like once fully recovered and mature.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFVYx2v_UiM

jmf3460
11-23-2016, 12:58 PM
a beautiful fish pat, sheesh their mouths are huge, its like they have a permanent frown lol. I love the color and the extra long and flowy feelers they have. Ive always been a fan of geos but have never kept them, maybe one day.

Second Hand Pat
11-23-2016, 01:06 PM
a beautiful fish pat, sheesh their mouths are huge, its like they have a permanent frown lol. I love the color and the extra long and flowy feelers they have. Ive always been a fan of geos but have never kept them, maybe one day.

Thanks Jacklyn. :D Ryan tells me they are mouth brooders. I am super excited about these guys. Not sure whether they are adults or not but they are certainly a good size.
Pat

DJW
11-23-2016, 01:51 PM
Those are nice Pat. I have always wanted some but figured that they need deep substrate... something I usually avoid having. How much sand do you think they need?

Discus-n00b
11-23-2016, 02:44 PM
These look awesome!!

Second Hand Pat
11-23-2016, 02:46 PM
Those are nice Pat. I have always wanted some but figured that they need deep substrate... something I usually avoid having. How much sand do you think they need?

Not sure Dan but I do have a sand substrate in the 230.
Pat

Second Hand Pat
11-23-2016, 02:47 PM
These look awesome!!

Thanks Matt :)
Pat

two utes
11-23-2016, 04:38 PM
Very nice Pat. Will be fascinating to watch when they breed. Are you worried about them being aggressive towards your Altums when they do?

Second Hand Pat
11-23-2016, 10:54 PM
Very nice Pat. Will be fascinating to watch when they breed. Are you worried about them being aggressive towards your Altums when they do?

I will cross that bridge when I get there Joe. I have another large tank if I need to separate them.
Pat

Dhavalsp
11-25-2016, 02:58 PM
they are beautiful, a lot like winemilleri....any plans of putting them with your wilds?

Second Hand Pat
11-25-2016, 03:06 PM
Thanks Dhaval, they are going in a 230 with altums.
Pat

Rteves
11-28-2016, 04:12 PM
Pat , I saw someone posted in youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhNoU9BrYzU
Are these the same Geophagus Sveni ?

Second Hand Pat
11-28-2016, 04:19 PM
Pat , I saw someone posted in youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhNoU9BrYzU
Are these the same Geophagus Sveni ?

Could be but too far away to know for sure.
Pat

Ryan
11-29-2016, 12:16 AM
Pat , I saw someone posted in youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhNoU9BrYzU
Are these the same Geophagus Sveni ?

Those look more like Geophagus altifrons to me but I'd need closer pictures or video to know for sure.

brewmaster15
11-29-2016, 07:38 AM
Your new geos remind me alot of threadfin geos, Acarichthys heckelii,, which are by far my favorite geo!
Al

Second Hand Pat
11-29-2016, 08:30 AM
I looked up Acarichthys heckelii Al on youtube Al. I can see why you like them and very similar to G. Sveni. Are threadfin geos an actual geo?
Pat


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyVFwBytpYA

Ryan
11-29-2016, 11:56 AM
^ They aren't a true geo, no. Their genus (Acarichthys) is in the Geophagini tribe but they were separated out of Geophagus a long time ago. Some people still sell them as geos, though.

Rteves
12-05-2016, 05:36 PM
Those look more like Geophagus altifrons to me but I'd need closer pictures or video to know for sure.

Ryan, i found a closer picture/ video. Maybe someone can translate the specie from Vietnamese Name: hai ho short body.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zN8ibTJwBY

Ryan
12-05-2016, 07:40 PM
They are altifrons. Unfortunately the short spine makes them a cull IMO.

Second Hand Pat
12-06-2016, 12:10 AM
Please forgive the dirty glass.

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5685/30643204853_1b77456fdb_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NFQrda)DSC_2237-2 (https://flic.kr/p/NFQrda) [/url]

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5706/31414359766_c2fbc4869f_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129594174@N08/)DSC_2239 (https://flic.kr/p/PRYNGw)

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5618/31414371486_d0431eb03c_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129594174@N08/)DSC_2236-2 (https://flic.kr/p/PRYSbA) [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/129594174@N08/]

jmf3460
12-06-2016, 10:20 AM
lovely pat, simply lovely.

Second Hand Pat
12-06-2016, 10:40 AM
lovely pat, simply lovely.

Thanks Jacklyn, :D these guys are really photogenic but man, they are quick.
Pat

Rteves
12-06-2016, 12:49 PM
Pat, they are beautiful ! Would love to see how they look when fully mature. Thank you for sharing their photos.

papasmurf
12-09-2016, 01:39 AM
Love Geo's...I keep Red Head "Tapajos" and Winemilleri with my Discus and they seem to do really well. Sveni and Mirabilis are the two "hot" geo's at the moment and have not been readily available for very long. They are usually at spawning size around 4" and your fish look at least that large.

Lido
01-15-2017, 11:41 PM
Sveni are an awesome strain of geo, I kept and bred rio tapajos for years. One of my favorite fish in the hobby.

danotaylor
05-21-2018, 03:55 PM
Had these guys about a week and they are a bit skinny and ratty from being recently import but they are active and eating like pigs. They will become tankmates to my F1 Altums which currently reside in the 230.

These guys look great SHP. Do you still have them? Did you bred them in the 230 with the Altums? Beautiful trailers. Stunning geo's!

Pices
05-21-2018, 10:09 PM
Where did you find these gems? Awesome looking fish. tfs
Patty

Second Hand Pat
05-22-2018, 08:11 AM
These guys look great SHP. Do you still have them? Did you bred them in the 230 with the Altums? Beautiful trailers. Stunning geo's!

Thanks but I do not have them anymore. I was spending so much time with my elderly parents that all the fish suffered. My parents are now in an assist living situation and my life has finally returned to normal.


Where did you find these gems? Awesome looking fish. tfs
Patty

Thanks Patty, I went in on a group with Ryan. Not sure where he got them from.
Pat

bluelagoon
05-22-2018, 09:22 AM
They look a lot like my 9 Geophagus Proximus that are in a 110 gal. six footer.They stay mostly at the lower level of the tank sifting through the sand.They do need sand.I have #2 silica.I've never had such clean substrate.They are not aggressive to each other nor other species.

brewmaster15
05-22-2018, 10:38 AM
Geos are great fish. I have had threadfins and red head tapajos .. wish I still had them. If I ever come across some nice ones I am sure they will be coming home with me.
al

Ryan
05-22-2018, 11:02 AM
This group came from Oliver Lucanus at Below Water in Canada but they are also available from Jeff Rapps at Tangled Up In Cichlids now.

Discluv
05-22-2018, 01:08 PM
I have a group of sveni I got back in November from Rapps. Here is a video of them I took over a week ago. There are also a few g. neambi, and biotodoma cupido and wavrini from Jeff as well.


https://vimeo.com/269257426

bluelagoon
05-22-2018, 03:32 PM
@ Discluv.WOW! nice and I love those tetras.Wish I would have gotten smaller tetras for my Geo tank.I have Hemiodus Grasilis and are a bit too swift and large for my liking.

Discluv
05-22-2018, 03:40 PM
@ Discluv.WOW! nice and I love those tetras.Wish I would have gotten smaller tetras for my Geo tank.I have Hemiodus Grasilis and are a bit too swift and large for my liking.

Tetras are kind of my thing, and I dont like anything larger than 3-4 inches. You can get such a great affect from a school of tetras, IMO.
I have 20 African tetras ( swim at top 3/4 level in tank) and 20 South American ( inhabit area between substrate and mid-point in aquarium) in this tank.

brewmaster15
05-22-2018, 06:17 PM
I have a group of sveni I got back in November from Rapps. Here is a video of them I took over a week ago. There are also a few g. neambi, and biotodoma cupido and wavrini from Jeff as well.


https://vimeo.com/269257426

That is a really cool looking tank! very much like it!
al

Discluv
05-22-2018, 07:20 PM
That is a really cool looking tank! very much like it!
al

Thank you :)!

bluelagoon
05-22-2018, 10:11 PM
Tetras are kind of my thing, and I dont like anything larger than 3-4 inches. You can get such a great affect from a school of tetras, IMO.
I have 20 African tetras ( swim at top 3/4 level in tank) and 20 South American ( inhabit area between substrate and mid-point in aquarium) in this tank.

I have kept a lot of species of tetras in the past myself.After around 45 years of being a fish hobbyist you'll go through a lot of them.Right now I have wild caught red phantom tetras in my 76 gal bow front with 8 albino Dantum angels;come to think of it,there are still lots more to choose from after all these years.

Pices
05-23-2018, 07:57 AM
Beautiful tank. If I ever get tired of discus, this would be my next venture.
Patty

brewmaster15
05-23-2018, 12:08 PM
I have kept a lot of species of tetras in the past myself.After around 45 years of being a fish hobbyist you'll go through a lot of them.Right now I have wild caught red phantom tetras in my 76 gal bow front with 8 albino Dantum angels;come to think of it,there are still lots more to choose from after all these years.

Mervin, We need to get you posting some pics.:)

al

bluelagoon
05-24-2018, 10:15 AM
Photography is not my greatest attribute.But will get around to it some day.

Pudmuppy
09-20-2019, 11:02 PM
I'm cringing slightly at bringing back such an old thread, but I was hoping you could tell me what size your Sveni were when you had them? I'm in the middle of a debate as to whether they hit around 6" as adults as listed on most journals, or if they are generally much bigger then this as someone has a 9" - normal, or abnormal, is the discussion!

Discluv
09-21-2019, 01:18 PM
I still have the sveni- they are 2 years old now.
I have two g. sveni that are around 6 inches from nose to end of tail, 1 that is around 6.5, and 2 that are appx. 7 inches.
A 9 inch g. sveni? Never heard of one getting that big from nose to tail--maybe they are including the trailers in measurement?

Here is an up-to date -video and picture. I also have 3 sub-adult g. neambi's in here that I will be moving to another tank or selling very soon. Getting to crowded at bottom.

https://vimeo.com/341167297

https://i.imgur.com/wceqL4s.jpg

danotaylor
09-21-2019, 06:53 PM
Stunning fish and set up. Great vid!

bluelagoon
09-22-2019, 09:11 AM
I like your set up. How do you keep the plants from being up rooted? Do you have them achored or potted? My 4 geo dicrozoster have reached about 9 inches and the geo abalios got to be about 8" males and 6.5" females. Mine shift the sand so much that plants just would not surive in my tanks.

Discluv
09-22-2019, 12:40 PM
Mine shift a lot of sand as well and there are many plants that haven't done well.
But, plants that have done well have either deep root systems that can stand the shifting sand or quick growing stems. Also, it is best to buy from other members where the plants are already adapted to submersed growth.

Plants that have worked in this tank with geophagus are: Swords, Valisneria, Crypt Spiralis, Ambula, Ludwigia Repens and Inclinata, and Rotala Indica.