Jolly Jackal
01-09-2018, 01:22 PM
Greetings!
I'm new to the site and have been planning on getting into the Discus hobby seriously since last summer. I've been interested in them since seeing some at That Fish Place in Lancaster Pa. Being new to the hobby at the time I felt I should get wet behind the ears first with some tropicals which I did for almost 10yrs. I had a number of fish that lived pretty long in my 120 - Rainbow shark lived about 8 years, Denison barbs were over 6, Boesmans over 5 etc. We moved to RI in the Spring of 2017 and I had to adopt them out. I figured this would be the time to give Discus a shot.
I've been going by advice of a LFS but started digging further into YouTube videos and forums lately so I registered here. Some of what I've been reading in the stickys has contradicted what I've been told so I'll go over where I'm at in the process.
I don't have a set timeframe since I wanted to get the tank up and running for a couple months first, get the biofilter established, work out any kinks. I'm glad I did because I've changed out the heater and after 8yrs and decided to change over to an FX6 to avoid any possible issue or failures.
Tank - 120gallon Marineland
Filter - Fluval FX6 (I'm transitioning from my FX5 so both are hooked up for now since I swapped media into my new FX).
Heater - 250w Enheim
Fluval air pump
1 power head (forget the specs)
Lighting - Fluval Pro LED 7500k
Tank was started in October 2017 as a planted tank. I'm not going super heavy on the plants since the focus was always to have discus in there. I have 2 large Amazon swords, Anubis etc. I'm attempting to add a pic of the tank. I am keeping open swimming room and can still vacuum over the fine gravel substrate.
Fish: 10 Neon Tetras; 8 High Fin Tetras; 3 Spotted Raphaels 2"; 1 Featherfin Cat 2" (apparently got mixed in with the Raphaels). Small population of nuisance snails; pond and some trumpet.
Water:
Temp - 83.5
Ammonia and Nitrite have been steady 0, PH 7.2; Nitrates keep coming up 0ppm on my API. LFS gave me a reading of 2 but I only get yellow on the API vial with vigorous shaking as directed. TH measures maybe 100, color is a bit lighter but not at the 0.
Current water change regimen is about 40% every 7 days. Water comes from the Tap. The PH right out of the tap is around 8; comes down to about 7.4 overnight. I'm currently not aging but having read about that here I'm figuring I probably will need to do so. I was figuring that I could do 50% water changes 2x/week with adult Discus. Sound ok?
Stocking goals - about 10 discus. I've been told I can have more even with what's in the tank now but I don't want to overcrowd. I've always stocked on the lighter side with my tropicals. I'm open to advice on this topic.
I'll keep reading on and watching the intro video posted but I'll list below the areas I'm looking for some input.
Starting Size and stocking - Since I'm not doing bare bottom I was figuring on 4"+ discus. My LFS also told me this way I'd see what they actually look like - color, size etc.
Feeding frequency is not an issue but I'm reading that growing out in a planted tank would create cleanliness issues. I wasn't planning on buying 8 or 10 adult discus at once; I was thinking start with 3 or 4 adults and then I could add in twos. Partly the reason is dropping $1200ish at once but also seeing how they look in the tank and then picking out what's next is fun.
I could hook up my FX5 to an empty 60gallon I was going to use as a quarantine tank and grow them out in there. The quarantine was going to be in the basement (heated) though so wouldn't really be on display. I could also use a SunSun canister filter with a built in UV sterilizer. It's more awkward than the FX but new.
Water water everywhere...
So after reading about it here and testing my water out of the tap v overnight it seems I should age the water for discus since the PH is so varied. My plan (I just came up with) would be to have q 96 gallon trash can in the laundry room (bathroom is right next door to hook up to the sink). My question is what to use to pump the water up to the tank since this would be basement level and the tank is 1st floor. I have a Little Giant pump I used to use to pump water off the pool cover at our old house, no longer needed for that use. I'm not sure if that would be overkill since you hook a garden hose up to it.
I think that's a good intro summary...Again any advice on stocking size/number and water change regimen is appreciated and I'll keep on reading and watching. Just started reading How to Care for Discus Fish like an Expert by David Chipperfield. Thanks!!!
I'm new to the site and have been planning on getting into the Discus hobby seriously since last summer. I've been interested in them since seeing some at That Fish Place in Lancaster Pa. Being new to the hobby at the time I felt I should get wet behind the ears first with some tropicals which I did for almost 10yrs. I had a number of fish that lived pretty long in my 120 - Rainbow shark lived about 8 years, Denison barbs were over 6, Boesmans over 5 etc. We moved to RI in the Spring of 2017 and I had to adopt them out. I figured this would be the time to give Discus a shot.
I've been going by advice of a LFS but started digging further into YouTube videos and forums lately so I registered here. Some of what I've been reading in the stickys has contradicted what I've been told so I'll go over where I'm at in the process.
I don't have a set timeframe since I wanted to get the tank up and running for a couple months first, get the biofilter established, work out any kinks. I'm glad I did because I've changed out the heater and after 8yrs and decided to change over to an FX6 to avoid any possible issue or failures.
Tank - 120gallon Marineland
Filter - Fluval FX6 (I'm transitioning from my FX5 so both are hooked up for now since I swapped media into my new FX).
Heater - 250w Enheim
Fluval air pump
1 power head (forget the specs)
Lighting - Fluval Pro LED 7500k
Tank was started in October 2017 as a planted tank. I'm not going super heavy on the plants since the focus was always to have discus in there. I have 2 large Amazon swords, Anubis etc. I'm attempting to add a pic of the tank. I am keeping open swimming room and can still vacuum over the fine gravel substrate.
Fish: 10 Neon Tetras; 8 High Fin Tetras; 3 Spotted Raphaels 2"; 1 Featherfin Cat 2" (apparently got mixed in with the Raphaels). Small population of nuisance snails; pond and some trumpet.
Water:
Temp - 83.5
Ammonia and Nitrite have been steady 0, PH 7.2; Nitrates keep coming up 0ppm on my API. LFS gave me a reading of 2 but I only get yellow on the API vial with vigorous shaking as directed. TH measures maybe 100, color is a bit lighter but not at the 0.
Current water change regimen is about 40% every 7 days. Water comes from the Tap. The PH right out of the tap is around 8; comes down to about 7.4 overnight. I'm currently not aging but having read about that here I'm figuring I probably will need to do so. I was figuring that I could do 50% water changes 2x/week with adult Discus. Sound ok?
Stocking goals - about 10 discus. I've been told I can have more even with what's in the tank now but I don't want to overcrowd. I've always stocked on the lighter side with my tropicals. I'm open to advice on this topic.
I'll keep reading on and watching the intro video posted but I'll list below the areas I'm looking for some input.
Starting Size and stocking - Since I'm not doing bare bottom I was figuring on 4"+ discus. My LFS also told me this way I'd see what they actually look like - color, size etc.
Feeding frequency is not an issue but I'm reading that growing out in a planted tank would create cleanliness issues. I wasn't planning on buying 8 or 10 adult discus at once; I was thinking start with 3 or 4 adults and then I could add in twos. Partly the reason is dropping $1200ish at once but also seeing how they look in the tank and then picking out what's next is fun.
I could hook up my FX5 to an empty 60gallon I was going to use as a quarantine tank and grow them out in there. The quarantine was going to be in the basement (heated) though so wouldn't really be on display. I could also use a SunSun canister filter with a built in UV sterilizer. It's more awkward than the FX but new.
Water water everywhere...
So after reading about it here and testing my water out of the tap v overnight it seems I should age the water for discus since the PH is so varied. My plan (I just came up with) would be to have q 96 gallon trash can in the laundry room (bathroom is right next door to hook up to the sink). My question is what to use to pump the water up to the tank since this would be basement level and the tank is 1st floor. I have a Little Giant pump I used to use to pump water off the pool cover at our old house, no longer needed for that use. I'm not sure if that would be overkill since you hook a garden hose up to it.
I think that's a good intro summary...Again any advice on stocking size/number and water change regimen is appreciated and I'll keep on reading and watching. Just started reading How to Care for Discus Fish like an Expert by David Chipperfield. Thanks!!!