Tim’s tank 🐠🐠

[timvriens]

So here is my first update
I switcht my homemade led light with a kitelight led bar,
Now my fish show there color much more
Even more blue 😍😍
And added an airstone
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I know that my photo taking skills suck 😂😁
But i hope you Guys and girls like it 👌

[Filip]

Nice photos Tim . They've already started to get a bit of blue colours on them .
What is your raising aquarium size and your WC routine at this moment ?

[timvriens]

the tank is 100cmx50x55 about 250l of water witch is 66.5 gallon

i do daily 80% water chance and feed them 6 times a day with beefheart 2x ,artemia, mussel ,a fishmix and bassleer pellets

[Filip]

the tank is 100cmx50x55 about 250l of water witch is 66.5 gallon

i do daily 80% water chance and feed them 6 times a day with beefheart 2x ,artemia, mussel ,a fishmix and bassleer pellets

You are on the right track , getting the best of them Tim . And being Piwos , IMO they got a lot of potential of
becoming a show fish some day.

[timvriens]

thank you, let's hope the do become show fish (y)

[danotaylor]

You're fish look beautiful mate, very nice high bodies. Hope they get that thick Piwow look as they mature!
I have never feed mussels but I do recall someone on this site mention they ran into problems due to something in the mussel meat. I cannot remember who or where it was documented but I hope they chime in here with their experience.
Cheers mate! Aussie aussie aussie, oi oi oi!

[timvriens]

You're fish look beautiful mate, very nice high bodies. Hope they get that thick Piwow look as they mature!
I have never feed mussels but I do recall someone on this site mention they ran into problems due to something in the mussel meat. I cannot remember who or where it was documented but I hope they chime in here with their experience.
Cheers mate! Aussie aussie aussie, oi oi oi!

I never had any problem before, so lets hope everything goes good

[danotaylor]

You never had any problems feeding them to discus before or feeding them to other fish? I hope you're right, it's an expensive lesson if not. There are so many are the proven good foods out there I just wonder if it's worth the risk?? That being said they are yours and you do as you see fit my friend! Keep us posted :)

[danotaylor]

Here's the thread link I searched for the mussels.
http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?133406-Discus-in-the-Med&highlight=Mussels
Paul is an experienced discus keep in Italy I believe. Have a read, see what you think, again, they're your fish so it's your call if the benefit outweighs the risk. Cheers mate

[timvriens]

WoW that’s crazy ����
I myself never had that problem with discus
But i also buy them “fishfood” ready
Maybe they have been rinsed very good ����*♂️
But i wil look in to it Some more, maybe i can find Some more info on the internet
Thanks for your concern ����

[danotaylor]

You're welcome mate! I hope you find the answers you need. You have a great group of discus there and I'd love to see them hit 7"+. Take care

[timvriens]

Love this vieuw, better than tv ��
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I know i have a hole in my sock ������

[Pices]

I love watching these get bigger and bigger-the fish that is-not the hole in the sock! Ha ha
Patty’s

[Cove Beach]

I have two recliner love seats, one faces the tank and the other faces the tv. For some reason the leather on the one facing the fish is wearing out faster :D

[timvriens]

I have two recliner love seats, one faces the tank and the other faces the tv. For some reason the leather on the one facing the fish is wearing out faster :D

The “fishseat” maybe is the “loveseat” hahaha

[timvriens]

I love watching these get bigger and bigger-the fish that is-not the hole in the sock! Ha ha
Patty’s


Haha the same here, i hate it when my feet start comming true����
So Lets Just watch the fish get bigger en not the hole ��

[timvriens]

Took Some more pictures, it seems like they grow everyday ;)

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[Filip]

They definitely grow almost daily in this age and it is very fun and satisfying to follow their progress .Raising is hard but very rewarding process . They look simply , great .

[timvriens]

an other update :evilgrin:
they are growing so fast, i'm also starting to see some bossy behavoir


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[timvriens]

They are growing fast and i stil suck at taking pictures haha
doing 80% waterchange a day and feeding 6 times
https://myalbum.com/photo/bdppxEJR42ki/1k0.jpg
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[Filip]

They've already developed some real nice colours and pattern Tim . You are headed towards growing real champions with your current routines .

[danotaylor]

Bloody marvelous mate!! Good work!

[pastry]

I Looove watching a good thread with color development! Thanks Tim! Keep going!

[timvriens]

Thx, they are about 12 cm now, that’s about 4,7 inch
And they are about 6 months old, i think that’s a good size for the age
What do you Guys think ?

[Second Hand Pat]

Hi Tim, these guys look great and growth is spot on. You are doing an excellent job with them :D
Pat

[timvriens]

thx Pat, I never had discus that grow this fast and are always hungry :p

[LizStreithorst]

Every single one is beautiful. Except for your excellent documentation I would be in disbelief. You are also a decent fish photographer. Don't keep putting your photography down.

[timvriens]

thx, here are some pictures of today after my waterchange
https://myalbum.com/photo/2p2SrFAmePMo/1k0.jpg
https://myalbum.com/photo/Wbsto3MbWHaE/1k0.jpg
https://myalbum.com/photo/93r9AchNdtjn/1k0.jpg

[slicksta]

Scrolling back and forth between post 1 and 28 and its like !BOOM!
Well Done.

[MikeyO]

Nice healthy fat little guys!

[swright135]

Tim the fish look amazing. Can't believe how much they have changed since the beginning.

[timvriens]

one of my favorite fish, they are growing so good, they need a bigger tank :p

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[bluelagoon]

Nice, very nice!

[timvriens]

had to share this picture
https://myalbum.com/photo/CZGhexGdW36Q/1k0.jpg

[timvriens]

Heeeeeey guys and girls, it's been a while

my fish are in a new and bigger tank with a large sump
They are doing great and i start seeing breeding behavour :eek:
as I moved them to the new tank i had the chance to measure them and they are al around the 15 cm mark (5.9 inch) except for 3 that are a bit smaller but stil very ok
https://myalbum.com/photo/GdUyrQpsGeZo/1k0.jpg
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[Filip]

They look fabulous Tim . I love their colours along with that black Halo development.
What's the current tank and sump size ? What are
your current feeding and WC routines ?
And lastly how old are they supposed to be ATM ?

[timvriens]

the tank is 63 inch left to right x 20 inch front to back and 21 inch waterline high
the sump is 43 inch left to right x 14 inch front to back and 14 inch high

my feeding routine is artemia in the morning bassleer pellets with the auto feeder at noon mussel when i get home from work and at 10 pm a fish mix
my wc routine is 3 times a week 40%
i have 10 liter of sera siporax and 10 liter of lavarock in my sump for biological filtration

i bought them in april when they were about 2/3 months old so they schould be about 9 months now, i know thats way to young for breeding but i have 2 fish doing the breeding dance :p

[danotaylor]

Stunning mate, great job on the grow out! Really nice color, shape & condition. Beautiful :D

[timvriens]

thx :bounce:

[peewee1]

Tim, I quickly viewed the thread but did not see what these beauties are. Striped Alenquer cross with halo?

[peewee1]

Are they all the same variety?

[timvriens]

Are they all the same variety?

they are piwowarski red turquoise x piwowarski cobald, all from the same spawn
my guess is that piwowarski wanted to make the rt more colorfull
ik bought them from piwowarski himself

[timvriens]

it has been a while, they are happily swimming, doing there thing
https://myalbum.com/photo/ATNsh7g5eRjt/1k0.jpg
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[danotaylor]

They continue to amaze!! :thumbsup:

[timvriens]

They continue to amaze!! :thumbsup:
Thank you , its crazy how there pattern keeps changing

[danotaylor]

That must be tough to watch, lol :p

[timvriens]

Hahaha , cant wait to see the next generation :p

[Shan_Evolved]

Some discus nerd from fb told me to comment on this absolutely nutty tank journal. :evilgrin:

[timvriens]

Some discus nerd from fb told me to comment on this absolutely nutty tank journal. :evilgrin:

Haha thx man ��

[timvriens]

Jeeeej wigglers :bounce:

Because the pair was so aggressive in the community tank, I put them in a breeding tank just so the rest of the fish could take a rest
planning to switch to RO water, but then i got sick and was stuck in bed for 4 days, no not corona :p
so they laid eggs , they hatched and i have about 20/25 wigglers now, jeej hahaha
can't wait so see how the pair in going to do in the next couple of days
the only problem is that i don't have brineshrimp eggs :(
i'm going to try to order some and hope the get here in time


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[danotaylor]

That's awesome Tim. There's folks here in the US that would be overjoyed to be able to buy quality discus from Piwow himself. Can you post a pic of both fish in the pair? I hope you're fully recovered by the time these fry go free swimming. Take care mate!

[timvriens]

mom
https://myalbum.com/photo/z2c9J62Gmq8P/1k0.jpg

Dad
https://myalbum.com/photo/rh3QmwzWKzZr/1k0.jpg

[seanyuki]

mom
https://myalbum.com/photo/z2c9J62Gmq8P/1k0.jpg

Dad
https://myalbum.com/photo/rh3QmwzWKzZr/1k0.jpg

Great looking parents.

[danotaylor]

Stunning!! Thanks for sharing Tim :thumbsup:

[timvriens]

Thx , now let’s hope they attach

[coralbandit]

If they attach then you should have time with the BBS in my opinion.
If they don't attach the BBS would not have made a difference IMO.
I went through the same thing with my Santarems . They were bullying everyone else so I moved them to their own tank and they commenced to lay eggs .
It may have taken them 4-6 times to get it right [4-6 weeks] but they did figure it out and have gotten better since raising their fry ..
You have the very fish I want ! I was just in communication with Alex ..
What I would give to just go and select fish from him ..
You are living the dream [well my dream !] ..Good luck , be patient and enjoy .
Those are fantastic looking fish you have raised .

[timvriens]

If they attach then you should have time with the BBS in my opinion.
If they don't attach the BBS would not have made a difference IMO.
I went through the same thing with my Santarems . They were bullying everyone else so I moved them to their own tank and they commenced to lay eggs .
It may have taken them 4-6 times to get it right [4-6 weeks] but they did figure it out and have gotten better since raising their fry ..
You have the very fish I want ! I was just in communication with Alex ..
What I would give to just go and select fish from him ..
You are living the dream [well my dream !] ..Good luck , be patient and enjoy .
Those are fantastic looking fish you have raised .

Thx , I had a great time selecting my fish and at the same time ask al the questions I want to Alexander
We wil see how it goes , we wel be in lockdown for a long time , so I have plenty of time ��

[two utes]

I've just looked through this thread Tim. Your group has grown out nicely, and a great example of how to get a pair together...good luck with the next stage.

[timvriens]

https://myalbum.com/photo/Bc5JaWswdBQz/1k0.jpg

they are about to go free swimming, I hate this waiting game :( :bounce:

[coralbandit]

The parents look like they are ready and waiting ..
The waiting makes it better when you finally win ..
Fins crossed on this one ..:p

[timvriens]

The parents are not letting them go without a fight �� they keep spitting them back on the cone
Witch is the funniest sight to see, making a backflip just to catch a baby

[coralbandit]

The parents are not letting them go without a fight �� they keep spitting them back on the cone
Witch is the funniest sight to see, making a backflip just to catch a baby
I remember watching mine do that and thinking they should spit them onto each other !
Sounds like the time my guys got it right .I hope you get to see it .
Magnificent is just one word to describe it ..

[timvriens]

AAAAAAAAND we have lift of :bounce:
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Sorry for the boring posts, but i'm so excited :sorry:
And not much else to do, because we can't go out because of the corona virus
So i'm kind of glad they decided to go for it

What do you guys and girls think is the best time to start feeding brine shrimp?
there are about 25/30 fry , or do you think the parents can handle it on there own

[coralbandit]

I started feeding BBS on day 2 or 3 lightly ramping up a little more each day .
I found pouring the BBS right over the fry and parents that some of the shrimp stuck to the parents slime and helped the fry learn about and find them .
The fry grow so fast you could be feeding much more in a week or so ..
I think mine were even nibbling on the freeze dried black worm cube for the parents around day 10 .
Congrats and enjoy ! No need to be sorry it is exciting every time ! :bounce:

[timvriens]

so i ended up taking the female out, because she got pushed in the corner al the time
I have about 18 fry left with the dad , i know its not much but its fun for me to watch and gives me something to do in these crazy times
they went freeswimming the 2th of april so they are 4 days now , already eating bbs :o

https://myalbum.com/photo/bXTCG5EeJ9L8/1k0.jpg
https://myalbum.com/photo/R7uonhmPqH2b/1k0.jpg

[danotaylor]

Cool Tim. It'll be easy to keep their water clean once you remove dad or transfer the younges'. Have fun reading them mate!!

[timvriens]

thx, dad is doing a great job
look how cute

https://youtu.be/6qI7NthsPrY

[danotaylor]

Sweet!

http://youtu.be/6qI7NthsPrY

[pastry]

Good God such a beautiful pair. I love the clean lines of the mother but I really like how there are lines and then it Blends into one solid sheen on the dad. They both have the type of shape I love as well! And don't think for one second that you are boring anyone!

[timvriens]

my fry are 1 month old today, there are 14 left and the biggest ones are 1.5 inch
one of them is super submissive and turns black sometimes

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[coralbandit]

They look great Tim !
It seems there is always a runt in every group ?
The one that changes color is the smallest yes ?

[timvriens]

They look great Tim !
It seems there is always a runt in every group ?
The one that changes color is the smallest yes ?

i do have runt, but that's not the black one , dont know why he does it

[Second Hand Pat]

Hi Tim, I just took a walk thru your thread and you have really grown these fish out nice and it is so cool to see them pair and make you a "grand" parent if you will. The parents are beautiful and the fry seem to be doing very well :D
Pat

[danotaylor]

Great work Tim!!

[timvriens]

Thx Danotaylor and Pat, i do like the whole circle of life thats going on here :p
i hope the fry wil grow out as good as the parents

[peewee1]

Thx Danotaylor and Pat, i do like the whole circle of life thats going on here :p
i hope the fry wil grow out as good as the parents

Tim, because of you and those like you who take the time to journal and document with exceptional photography that we all learn in great detail how to raise Discus.

[timvriens]

Tim, because of you and those like you who take the time to journal and document with exceptional photography that we all learn in great detail how to raise Discus.


thank you , but there is a lot i did not post haha

[Sturiosoma]

thank you , but there is a lot i did not post haha

Tim I love a true hobbyist that is willing to share their success to help out others and congrats but what have you not posted , no secrets , no one is getting rich here, and no culling their all good


Jeanne

[Herbicidal]

Fantastic job Tim! :thumbsup:

[timvriens]

Jeanne, there are a lot of feeding and water changing photo's i took, but did not post haha ;)
the culling part for now is over, i have 10 left, but ones upper fin is not fully formed, so thats one i stil have to cull
but for now i wil let it live, as it is a daredevil and always is the first to come and eat

thx herbicidal

[peewee1]

Jeanne, there are a lot of feeding and water changing photo's i took, but did not post haha ;)
the culling part for now is over, i have 10 left, but ones upper fin is not fully formed, so thats one i stil have to cull
but for now i wil let it live, as it is a daredevil and always is the first to come and eat

thx herbicidal

I do not have the heart to cull any of those that I have raised from spawn. I even caught a bat in my house once and rather than smack it with a broom I caught it and let it go outside. Same with mice, the ones that survive the trap, get let go in the field, or the nasty neighbor's yard late at night.

[RogueDiscus]

Lol!

[timvriens]

I do not have the heart to cull any of those that I have raised from spawn. I even caught a bat in my house once and rather than smack it with a broom I caught it and let it go outside. Same with mice, the ones that survive the trap, get let go in the field, or the nasty neighbor's yard late at night.

I have no problem with culling, i belief that if you want to breed you have to make the best fry possible

[timvriens]

here is an other update
they are a little over 7 weeks old and between 2 and 2.5 inch
https://myalbum.com/photo/wLMvmraQDMhQ/1k0.jpg
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https://myalbum.com/photo/ZA7DCxoNyXc3/1k0.jpg
https://myalbum.com/photo/bop3k7dTwxJc/1k0.jpg

their bellys always look like they are about to explode ,they just love eating hahaha

[danotaylor]

Great job Tim. I wish I could buy some of your fry!!

[kev1310]

Absolutely stunning fish Tim!

It's interesting you noting that one of the young turns black sometimes. In a group I'm growing out I have one that does that sometimes and he's the joint largest! It seems to be a mood thing because 30 seconds later he can be perfectly light in colour again. He did it a lot around the 2-3" mark, but he still does it occasionally and goes submissive to the others even though he's now 5.5", I've no idea why.