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jim LI
12-09-2019, 10:37 AM
. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?

1 fish started to develop white spots on body about 4 weeks ago. Iterated with Nitrofurazone and it got better, but now symptoms are getting worse



2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).

White spots on body, fins



3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.

Nitrofurazone



Tank/Water

4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.

72 gallon, 4 discus, 5 ½ to 6 inches, about 4 years old, 3 cory cats


5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).

60% every 2 days



6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?

5 years, sand substrate, 1 inch



7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.

I age for 214 to 48 hours,, ph 7.2 at tap, 7.6 after aging



8. What type/brand water conditioner do you use? Do you add it to the tank or aging barrel? How much do you use?

Safe


9. Parameters and water source;

aged tap water


Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.


- temp ____82

- ph _____7.6

- ammonia reading ____0

- nitrite reading ____0

- nitrate reading ____>10

What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.

- well water ____n/a

- municipal water __yes__

- RO water ___n/a_


10. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.

nothing new added


11. Please tell us what you feed your fish and how often. This can be critical information for solving the problem so be as specific as you can.

2 times a day, freeze dried blood worms, discus pellets



12. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them.

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Sturiosoma
12-09-2019, 12:09 PM
If I didn't know better I would say that was ich in which case you will need to treat with a good fungicide, and also with 60% water changes are you having any large temperature swings when doing your changes

Jeanne

fljones3
12-09-2019, 12:18 PM
I would raise the water temp from 82 to 86F. If it is itch that would help. You could go higher but if it's a bacterial infection that would hurt the situation. How are the other fish? Is he eating?

LizStreithorst
12-09-2019, 02:04 PM
Is this the only fish affected? Exactly what protocol did you use when treating with nitorfurazone?

Mando
12-09-2019, 02:28 PM
This does not look like ick to me. This is water quality issue in my opinion.

have you skimped out on water changes recently? I also see major find damage from a passed issue which could have also been from water issues.

jim LI
12-09-2019, 04:06 PM
The fish had been eating up until this last episode, which started a week ago

jim LI
12-09-2019, 04:07 PM
this is the only fish affected. i use 1tsp of nitrofurazone every 24 hours, doing a w/c just before dosing the tank

jim LI
12-09-2019, 04:08 PM
This does not look like ick to me. This is water quality issue in my opinion.

have you skimped out on water changes recently? I also see major find damage from a passed issue which could have also been from water issues.

i had continued to do every other day w/c until this happened. could it be my aging barrel may need to be disinfected? none of the other fish are affected.

LizStreithorst
12-09-2019, 04:27 PM
this is the only fish affected. i use 1tsp of nitrofurazone every 24 hours, doing a w/c just before dosing the tank

For how long?

jeep
12-09-2019, 07:55 PM
Judging by the deterioration in the fins, it appears to have been sick for quite some time. About all I could recommend would be to place it in a QT tank and change water daily and add some salt at 1 TBS for a couple of weeks. Keep the tamp at 82. Good luck with him!!!

jim LI
12-10-2019, 09:35 AM
For how long?

i have been dosing for 5 days

Mando
12-10-2019, 09:59 AM
Judging by the deterioration in the fins, it appears to have been sick for quite some time. About all I could recommend would be to place it in a QT tank and change water daily and add some salt at 1 TBS for a couple of weeks. Keep the tamp at 82. Good luck with him!!!

x2, poor guy looks really bad. Should he stop the Furan? I see that Furan should run for 10 days minimum.

OP, Furan does destroy the biological filtration; so, keeping up with water changes is crucial.

jim LI
12-10-2019, 11:04 AM
x2, poor guy looks really bad. Should he stop the Furan? I see that Furan should run for 10 days minimum.

OP, Furan does destroy the biological filtration; so, keeping up with water changes is crucial.

I will keep up with the dosing for 5 more day.


thanks for the replies

LizStreithorst
12-10-2019, 12:40 PM
Please do it in a BB tank.

Honestly, I have a feeling that Brian is correct. As soon as you're done with treatment please do as he suggests.

BTW, I have never had Nitrofurazone put a hurting on my filters.

Mando
12-10-2019, 02:50 PM
Please do it in a BB tank.

Honestly, I have a feeling that Brian is correct. As soon as you're done with treatment please do as he suggests.

BTW, I have never had Nitrofurazone put a hurting on my filters.

It was on the label, just making sure he keeps up with water quality. It may or may not affect it.

danotaylor
12-10-2019, 06:25 PM
Looks like the most serious outbreak of discus pimples I have seen. Your orig post says nitrates >10, how much higher?
I agree with Brian; move to a BB hospital tank with a cycled filter and dose 1tbsp/1gal of salt, 50% wc daily with heated aged water.

jim LI
12-11-2019, 09:48 AM
Looks like the most serious outbreak of discus pimples I have seen. Your orig post says nitrates >10, how much higher?
I agree with Brian; move to a BB hospital tank with a cycled filter and dose 1tbsp/1gal of salt, 50% wc daily with heated aged water.

the nitrates are less than 10. i get those symbols backwards all the time. thanks for all the responses.i will set up the hospital tank tonight.

jim

jim LI
12-20-2019, 04:48 PM
A quick update. i added 3 dither fish to the qt tank, serpae tetra. i am doing 50% w/c every day, adding aquarium salt as suggested. I am also adding AquaVitro seed to help start the cycle. But my tank smells horrible as i do w/cs. can anyone suggest what is causing it or how i can reduce the smell. it is quite noticeable.

thanks,
jim