My homemade 180

[Thingsarefun]

It's definitely not prefect but it's mine!

Two 4x8 sheets of 3/4 inch acrylic were cut for a 6x2x2 180G
40B sump plumbed with 1 inch drains & 3/4 inch returns, approximately 15 turnover per hour.

Currently cycling and lightly planted.

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[coralbandit]

Very nice !

[Willie]

What was your rationale to go the DIY route? The two acrylic sheets would probably cost more than a used 220 or 300 gal tank.

Willie

[Thingsarefun]

What was your rationale to go the DIY route? The two acrylic sheets would probably cost more than a used 220 or 300 gal tank.

Willie

I saved about 50% of what fishtanksdirect has a basic glass Marineland 220 listed for.
With the 3/4 inch acrylic I could still lift the tank myself so I didn't have to bother my wife or friends getting it on the stand, not going to happen with glass.

Also, I have all the tools available from doing home renovations so there wasn't a lot of extra things to buy.

[captainandy]

I think that's phenomenal. I've considered doing the same for years but always chickened out. How hard was it?

[Thingsarefun]

Honestly it wasn't too difficult, but you most definitely need a router.
Not sure if i can link to other sites, but here is the thread I used for information http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=3062657#post3062657

I should have built a router table with a big outflow space first, it would have helped prep edges better.

[Thingsarefun]

Cycle day #5
Thank you plants, I guess were skipping the Nitrite stage on this tank too?

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[Willie]

In a cycled tank, there should be absolutely no ammonia or nitrite. My read is that the tank has not cycled. When it happens, you'll see a haze in the water. That clears overnight and the tank is fully cycled then. Your readings will show 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite and 10 - 20 ppm nitrate.

[FischAutoTechGarten]

I had no idea that aluminum channel could take that much weight.... Wow. Learned something!

[Thingsarefun]

I had no idea that aluminum channel could take that much weight.... Wow. Learned something!

Extruded aluminum is awesome stuff, aquariums aren't even close to their weight limit.
It's used at my work for conveyors that support engine assembly's.

[Thingsarefun]

Cycle is very close to complete

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20ml doses of Ammonia is processed overnight and Nitrite won't go over 1ppm.

Probably not a good idea changing any water but the tannin buildup is blocking too much light for the plants, and I get to test my super custom water change setup.

Garden hose Input
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Garden hose attachment from my Sump return line.
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[dspeers]

I am curious, have you ever noticed that if the NO3 accumulates to too high a level that it inhibits the nitrate cycle bacteria? I would assume at some level it would much like etoh at > 12% inhibits brewers yeast but cannot find anything via google.

[jeep]

Very nice accomplishment. I don't think I would trust myself...

[Thingsarefun]

Slowly working on plant placement & seeing what likes to grow in the tank.

Also added some new friends along with transferring my group of Oto cats

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[coralbandit]

Looking good !

[Gillmann]

Nicely done! The tank looks great. What are you planning to stock it with?

[Thingsarefun]

I'm still up in the air on that, it's been really tough finding discus with the Covid shutdown.
Kenny didn't get a April order, Wattley's responses aren't really filling me with confidence, and I'm still waiting on stock confirmation from Golden state Discus.

Was planing on the normal sterbi cory, rummy nose, and discus tank, but I'm enjoying not having to replant everything the cory's dig up overnight.

It's all probably for the best, I'm still dealing with quite a bit of plant melt transitioning everything from emersed to submsersed.

[Thingsarefun]

Discus finally!
Thank you Golden state Discus!

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[coralbandit]

Very Nice !

[Thingsarefun]

So how long before they start spreading out?
Kind of funny but they just move around in a clump.

[danotaylor]

Fish and tank look great. They're a schooling fish so until the hierarchy develops they'll stick together for security.

[Herbicidal]

Great job on the aquarium! You've got some skills! Excellent group of Discus too. We live near the store that distributes them. In fact, my wife and I bought several from them back in March. I'm a big fan of Kenny (able to pick up our orders in person too) but we couldn't leave the store without some. ;)

[Thingsarefun]

Thank you for the kind words! I grew up in the Bay area and moved to Portland Oregon late in highschool, currently living in Alabama and I really miss the accessibility of city life. 😭 Thank goodness for eBay & Amazon pushing online shopping to the extremes.

[Thingsarefun]

I'm a little worried about this guy, I'm not really seeing it eat like the others are.
Anything I should be watching for that is unique to Discus, or that can be seen in these photos?

The forehead seems a little bit pinched
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Small rough spot of scales near the lateral line
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Only one that tries to squeeze under this wood, little bit of clamping when it does.
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Our weird dog, Dutch for attention =P
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[coralbandit]

The rough spots look suspicious to me . I would keep an eye on them .

[Thingsarefun]

Water testing Tank & Tap

Tap
PH - 7.6~8.0?
Ammonia - 0
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - 0
KH - 35ppm
GH - 90ppm
TDS - 83-87

Tank
PH - 7.2
Ammonia - 0
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - 1-2?
KH - 35ppm
GH - 90ppm
TDS - 94 - 96


Not really sure what is going on with the PH tests 7.2 is usually normal.

[coralbandit]

Water testing Tank & Tap

Tap
PH - 7.6~8.0?
Ammonia - 0
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - 0
KH - 35ppm
GH - 90ppm
TDS - 83-87

Tank
PH - 7.2
Ammonia - 0
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - 1-2?
KH - 35ppm
GH - 90ppm
TDS - 94 - 96


Not really sure what is going on with the PH tests 7.2 is usually normal.

There is less O2 in warmer water .
CO2 makes water register a lower pH even though in reality it has not changed the pH at all. O2 makes water register a higher pH although it has not really changed .
That is why so many allow their water to off gas /acclimate and pre heat it for 24 hours before use [besides micro bubbles] IMO ? ..
Take a cup out of tank and let it cool down and test it then ?

Nice kitchen and the dog is telling you something [ " feed me !] ...

[bluelagoon]

It is a very nice set up. Here goes. How are you going to clean the substrate and how often? It will need to be done. I think I see dark substrate under the light colored too. Deep substratum is not a great idea for a discus tank. Most folks that have tried it with young discus have failed because they didn't clean the substratum often enough.

[Thingsarefun]

It is a very nice set up. Here goes. How are you going to clean the substrate and how often? It will need to be done. I think I see dark substrate under the light colored too. Deep substratum is not a great idea for a discus tank. Most folks that have tried it with young discus have failed because they didn't clean the substratum often enough.

I vacuum about 20-30 gallons out of the tank daily to keep the substrate clean, and plan on a 75% water change on Sundays.
Current stock is very low, 8 Oto cats, 8 Discus, and 100+ cherry shrimp.

The dark substrate is organic potting soil, capped with pool filter sand.
It's a semi walstad method tank to help keep the plants happy without the need to dose strong fertilizers.

Also the fish a larger than they seem from the pictures, half of them are pushing 5 inches.

[Thingsarefun]

So the White checkerboard is sorta vibrating? They are also pecking at the driftwood.
I'm guessing this might be mating behavior?

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[two utes]

So the White checkerboard is sorta vibrating? They are also pecking at the driftwood.
I'm guessing this might be mating behavior?

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Sure is! That didn't take long. Nice work with the set up. Good luck.

[bluelagoon]

I vacuum about 20-30 gallons out of the tank daily to keep the substrate clean, and plan on a 75% water change on Sundays.
Current stock is very low, 8 Oto cats, 8 Discus, and 100+ cherry shrimp.

The dark substrate is organic potting soil, capped with pool filter sand.
It's a semi walstad method tank to help keep the plants happy without the need to dose strong fertilizers.

Also the fish a larger than they seem from the pictures, half of them are pushing 5 inches.

This type of tank only lasts a while. And usually not the way to go with discus. It has been tried numerous times with not great success if your read the older posts. It is impossible to deep clean the substrate, which really needs to be done for "discus". I had a planted dirt tank, low stock, topped off and no water changes and feeding very low and it worked for other fish. Most discus have been raised on farms in crowded conditions were they are subjected to antibiotics on a regular basis. Just like our chickens and pigs. And when they come to us their immune systems will become bombarded with these bacteria/pathogens in our tanks that cause illness. So, it will work for a while, but not long term.

[Thingsarefun]

This type of tank only lasts a while. And usually not the way to go with discus. It has been tried numerous times with not great success if your read the older posts. It is impossible to deep clean the substrate, which really needs to be done for "discus". I had a planted dirt tank, low stock, topped off and no water changes and feeding very low and it worked for other fish. Most discus have been raised on farms in crowded conditions were they are subjected to antibiotics on a regular basis. Just like our chickens and pigs. And when they come to us their immune systems will become bombarded with these bacteria/pathogens in our tanks that cause illness. So, it will work for a while, but not long term.

I appreciate your input, I have gone through almost all the stickies and watched the videos on the site of best practices for keeping discus, but ultimately I'm going to do what makes fish keeping enjoyable to me. Hopefully with my cleaning / water change regiment I can keep these guys happy and healthy.

Also this is most definitely not a true walstad method tank. I'm cycling in 10-15% of fresh filtered water daily and swapping 4x 200 micron filter socks 2 times a week.

If I see something come up I can certainly adjust my strategy or even pull the fish to place them in a standard BB tank.

[Thingsarefun]

Well ****, what do I do now?

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[coralbandit]

Well ****, what do I do now?

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Watch and enjoy ! :p
Congrats they will probably do this several times before they get it right so enjoy watching them .
They do seem happy !

[Herbicidal]

Congrats! Now you get to watch them defend their space. They will get a bit cranky with their tank mates.

[fljones3]

Congrats! An enjoyable adventure is awaiting. :)

[Thingsarefun]

My wife found this guy stuck at the top today...
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These two are getting constantly picked on, and it looks like one is giving up the battle =(
I pulled pulled it for now, but I'm kind of wondering what I need to do long term?

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Both are eating, but I'm sure they are only really getting leftovers when on the run.

[Herbicidal]

A quarantine tank is probably your best option. I have a 30 gallon that comes in real handy. I've even moved the aggressor into Q.T before, then rearranged the main aquarium. Left the aggressor there for a week to chill out. This technique worked for me.

Best of luck. Hate to see those things happen.

[coralbandit]

I like moving the meanie also !
The one being picked on needs to gain confidence in socializing with his group which does not happen in a separate tank IMO.
The bully always manages to do fine although pissed off in a separate tank from my experience ..

[Thingsarefun]

I like moving the meanie also !
The one being picked on needs to gain confidence in socializing with his group which does not happen in a separate tank IMO.
The bully always manages to do fine although pissed off in a separate tank from my experience ..

The problem is I have quite a few bullies, I have 2 pairs forming out of my 8 discus and everyone seems to be taking it out on these two at the top!
Low men on the totem pole it would seem =/

The ring leopard seems to just run from the situation which is definitely the best plan, the tiger however tries to stand its ground in a 4 v 1.


Rams are doing great so far btw, thank you!

[Herbicidal]

Take one from each pair and QT those two, then rearrange the main tank. ;)

[Thingsarefun]

Take one from each pair and QT those two, then rearrange the main tank. ;)

Well to be honest, I have the can't leave a well enough alone disease... lol

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The tank layout is constantly changing.

[coralbandit]

I like how that looks .:D

[Thingsarefun]

So the 2 spa days seemed to help the tiger, instantly joined the group when I put him back.

[Thingsarefun]

Really wasn't expecting anything out of pairing going on but...

Is it possible to raise wigglers in a community tank?

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[peewee1]

I've not raised fry in a community tank but my logic says if they can raise them in the wide-ranging Amazon River the community tank would be somewhat easier.

[snxtif]

Nice tank and nice hatchlings.

It's a nice challenge and I wd love to see it through.

In my experience, the bullies will always be the bullies,
with all the effort you put things will get "a bit" better
for a while, then it will return.
Or you can separate them, buff the weak ones up...
until they become the bullies themselves lol
There are harsh words those can use for such behavior
but I think it's just how it is... It's their nature.

For raising wigglers in community tank, I think it would be a challenge
but if you aren't into breeding rabbit hole, I'd say why not?
Worst case = more nutrient for other discus.

Please keep updating :)

[Thingsarefun]

Looks like everything is going well so far, they are growing a bit.
I'm a little worried they haven't made the jump to the parents for food

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Hard to get pictures, mom moves to get in between the fry when I get close.

[fljones3]

How many days have they been wrigglers?

[Thingsarefun]

How many days have they been wrigglers?

Not really sure, probably 4?

[Thingsarefun]

Well never mind, they are swimming around the driftwood trying to tame the herd.

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[fljones3]

Getting close to attachment.


Not really sure, probably 4?

[Thingsarefun]

Success!
So cool to watch.

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[Thingsarefun]

They were not happy with me trying to vacuum during the water change, had to give up...

[fljones3]

Did you try from the opposite end of the tank?


They were not happy with me trying to vacuum during the water change, had to give up...

[Thingsarefun]

Did you try from the opposite end of the tank?

Water change was fine, just not vacuuming in that corner.
They were doing their best piranha impressions on the siphon they could.

[peewee1]

does it state somewhere in this thread what the beautiful yellow fish is?

[Thingsarefun]

does it state somewhere in this thread what the beautiful yellow fish is?

Both fish are from Golden state discus

The Mother is a Golden Diamond
The Father is an Indiana Tiger

I'm very curious on what the fry will turn out like.



Also over in the other corner...

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I'm really not sure what I'm doing right... lol

[coralbandit]

Success!
So cool to watch.

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Ver cool !


Both fish are from Golden state discus

I'm really not sure what I'm doing right... lol

Sometimes this is best and the most fun !

[brady]

Tom
Quite a tank,very impressive from a design prespective and also from a "look" perspective.
BTW, what is an Indiana discus?
Jay

[Thingsarefun]

Tom
Quite a tank,very impressive from a design prespective and also from a "look" perspective.
BTW, what is an Indiana discus?
Jay

Just their take on tiger turq I guess?

https://goldenstatediscus.com/product/indiana-tiger/

[Thingsarefun]

Mom & dad trying to keep the kids in line.

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[Thingsarefun]

Well... it seems the young have all turned into snacks.

Parents couldn't contain the wandering fry.

[danotaylor]

Sorry to hear mate.
With the other pair you posted in post #59 is the PB strain the male or female?

[fljones3]

Lighting might have been too intense. Next time try reducing it to 10-20% of full-on.


Well... it seems the young have all turned into snacks.

Parents couldn't contain the wandering fry.

[Thingsarefun]

Sorry to hear mate.
With the other pair you posted in post #59 is the PB strain the male or female?

The PB is male.

[Thingsarefun]

Lighting might have been too intense. Next time try reducing it to 10-20% of full-on.

Will less lighting keep the fry bunched up more?

My dimmer is set at 3/10 currently, should I bump it down all the way?

[fljones3]

Hard to raise fry in a community tank as they have no places that are hidden from the rest of the tank. The pair could have eaten them, especially if they are preparing to lay again. The community tank could have eaten them. But you mentioned the fry "wandering" away. That happened to me. I changed my lights to a dimmer light, starting out at 1/10. As the fry grew (by week 4), I had the light on 5/10. It may not be the reason but it is an option to try on the next batch.

Oh, if you don't have a nightlight on in the tank room at night that will assist.


Will less lighting keep the fry bunched up more?

My dimmer is set at 3/10 currently, should I bump it down all the way?

[coralbandit]

I use night lights in the fish room .
I do think they make a difference for fry and just for spawning cycles .
It rarely is pitch black outside ,especially where most of our fish come from in the wild .
I am not carried away enough to cycle night lights with the lunar cycle but I would bet that would boost breeding also .
Fish just know when it is full moon anyways .Maybe they feel the effect the moon has on waters since they are in it ?

[peewee1]

Tom
Quite a tank,very impressive from a design prespective and also from a "look" perspective.
BTW, what is an Indiana discus?
Jay

I used to have one of those Indiana discus. Daughter Ellie Mae named him "Jones". I asked her why. All I got was the dumb look face. Complete with rolled eyes and an "Uhhhhhh!"

[Thingsarefun]

Hard to raise fry in a community tank as they have no places that are hidden from the rest of the tank. The pair could have eaten them, especially if they are preparing to lay again. The community tank could have eaten them. But you mentioned the fry "wandering" away. That happened to me. I changed my lights to a dimmer light, starting out at 1/10. As the fry grew (by week 4), I had the light on 5/10. It may not be the reason but it is an option to try on the next batch.

Oh, if you don't have a nightlight on in the tank room at night that will assist.

Ok, I'll try and bump the dimmer to the lowest setting.

Will see how long a nightlight lasts, my wife complains about the dimmer led's glowing at night.
Office / fish room is down the hall from our bedroom.

[Thingsarefun]

I used to have one of those Indiana discus. Daughter Ellie Mae named him "Jones". I asked her why. All I got was the dumb look face. Complete with rolled eyes and an "Uhhhhhh!"

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:p That's a pretty good one

So far only two of mine have names yet.

Golden Diamond = Mango
White Leopard = Ginger (All I can think of is Cartman in south park, so great)

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[peewee1]

I ended up naming my discus after the people I work with. It began when I was kidding with my loan guy. I told him that I have a yellow fish that I named Little Lee. I gave him a picture of the fish which is now pasted on his office wall. Well, my investment person spotted it and wanted to have a fish with her name so I named my Blue Scorpion Marina and I gave her a picture which she put on her office wall. Then another guy got in on it so I name one after him. That one was a Red Heckle. That one is now named Phillip. All I had left were Alenquer. All browns. One day we were all having a meeting. One of the managers, who is an Indian, asked if she could have a fish with her name. So i explained that I did have a brown one that she could have. Then I realized what I had just said and wondered how may HR violations that I had just broached. But I did explain there were only brown ones left. That then made it easy for the black guy who wanted one to understand why he got a brown one too thus me avoiding a second and more serious HR problem. Then one of the young guys in the office, who I call "Lad", found out that he was going to be a father so he asked me what a good name for his son would be. I told him that "Laddie" would be good. So I called the new fish Little Laddie" and now everyone in the office is good. That is how I named my fish.

[Herbicidal]

That's hysterical! :grin:

[peewee1]

Well, yes, too funny but I am no longer letting daughter Ellie Mae name any fish. After naming the Indiana discus "Jones" I forbid her from even viewing the fish any longer. But she does look anyway.

[Thingsarefun]

Well, it looks like group #2 has a successful hatch!

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[danotaylor]

Cool mate :thumbsup:

[Thingsarefun]

Snacks...

All of them...

They didn't even last the afternoon... lol

[Thingsarefun]

Haven't posted in a little bit and ran into a couple issues unfortunately.

Added 4 new discus, which seems to have done quite a bit of good for the group.
I'm actually surprised at how much calmer they all seem.

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On to the issues

#1 Lost a ram while I was at work, my wife found him dead right under one of the two breading pairs.

I have a feeling the little guy wasn't sneaky enough picking discus eggs off the wood...


#2 My white Leopard seems to have unknown issues.

Pryor to adding the new group he seemed to have a slightly clouded right eye, I tried upping the water changes to 80% per day.
After a week there seemed to be no change to the eye, his tail fin was looking a bit ragged, and he stopped eating or swimming around.
I decided to treat the tank with API Fungus cure, this seemed to clear up the eye but he is still not eating and his gills are a bit puffy?

I pulled him from the tank while doing a water change for a salt bath to possibly help his gills and moved him to his own tank.
I'm really not sure what to do from here, I don't really want to bomb him with more meds if i can help it, and i'm only really noticing one weird spot on his fin?

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Does anyone notice anything I may be missing?

[coralbandit]

Sorry to hear you lost a ram .
The forehead of the discus looks rough and it may be the picture but you may be facing HITH ?
It could just be the pits discus normally have but from the picture they and the forehead look suspicious ??
I am with you and not med guy at all.
I like Potassium Permanganate for just about everything and even when there are no issues .
It does things no other treatment can .

[Thingsarefun]

Sorry to hear you lost a ram .
The forehead of the discus looks rough and it may be the picture but you may be facing HITH ?
It could just be the pits discus normally have but from the picture they and the forehead look suspicious ??
I am with you and not med guy at all.
I like Potassium Permanganate for just about everything and even when there are no issues .
It does things no other treatment can .

I noticed the spot on the head also, it didn't appear until I did the salt bath which seems weird?

I'm going to stop doing anything and just keep watching, probably making it worse atm.
Nothing but clean water in the quarantine tank, dialing the temp to 88, and hoping for the best.

[Cyrusdiscus]

I’m just chiming I for a moment. I just went through and read this whole thread and have to say that your tank, your care, and all you’re doing is just awesome. Everything looks amazing! Great job and please keep updating here.
So sorry to hear of the loss of a fish and the issues coming up with this latest guy. I wish I could offer any advice but I’m still a beginner. But I’m wishing you the best of luck!

[Thingsarefun]

Well, poor little ginger is gone... sigh

Kind of frustrating not knowing what got it.

[Thingsarefun]

Everyone cruising around except for "shut in" Steve.


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[Thingsarefun]

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[Thingsarefun]

Some of the Ram gang chilling.

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[danotaylor]

Nice rams Evan. Are they from Tom?

[Thingsarefun]

Nice rams Evan. Are they from Tom?

Yes they are, the quality of his fish are light years beyond anything local to me.

But... they decimated my cherry shrimp population, little murder machines. XD

[danotaylor]

Cool mate, yea, from what I have seen Tom's Ram's are off the chain with regards to LFS Ram's. I am hoping to get a smaller planted tank going in the not too distant future with Tom's Ram's as the main attraction...and I was gonna have shrimp in there, but after your experience, maybe not, lol

[coralbandit]

Nice the rams look good !
Live food never hurts !

[Thingsarefun]

Is this white spot anything I should worry about?

It looks like a pimple kinda?

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[danotaylor]

Pretty fish It is a discus pimple. They're a sign of diminished water quality. Whenever I would slack off my usual routine a discus pimple or trice would remind me to get back in track!

[Thingsarefun]

Well the pimple cleared up pretty quickly, gone in roughly 4 days. woo-hoo success!

I changed my water change routine since having issues (and eventual loss) of my white leopard. I was doing 80% every other day and have switched to 40% everyday.
It's allowed me to do my evening feeding while sump is turned off, keeping the tank & filter socks quite a bit cleaner.

I have noticed a couple spots of missing scales on my Golden diamond. The patch on the lateral line makes me nervous, it's grown unlike the round spot to the top.

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[Thingsarefun]

Baby Daddy #3 for "Mango" the Golden Diamond... lol

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Better look at the two suspect spots on her also.

[Thingsarefun]

Does this look like Hex? This guy has had white poop for about 7 days now, and stopped eating maybe 2?
Is the only one with any issues at the moment and there haven't been any changes to the tank.

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I've been keeping up with my daily 40% water changes, and currently treating with Metro. (third dose will be today)

[Thingsarefun]

It's been quite a while since I last updated.

Unfortunately I have been watching a couple of the seams on the tank slowly pull apart.
With no good options for housing and filtering enough water for my stock, I ended up getting more acrylic.

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I made some design changes in the process, the main one was integrating the overflow to the back wall so I could eliminate the box.

The fish seem to be settling in after their adventure riding out the tank swap in the sump.

[Thingsarefun]

Ram fry actually swimming around!

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[Herbicidal]

That's awesome! Great job!

[coralbandit]

Nice ! Well done !
They are ready to eat ..
If you don't have fry food offer the parents a soft type food or flake and they will pass it through their gills to the fry !
They also should be able to find some food on the plants ..

[Thingsarefun]

Well I tried to put a screen in the tank to keep them in the corner but the fry could swim through the holes leaving them alone to get picked off.
Not sure if there are any left :(

Is there a good way to transfer fry or eggs with the parents? I tried moving a discus pair with their eggs and they almost immediately ate them.

[Willie]

You can pull the eggs and raise them without the parents. Once they hatch, it's impossible to move them.

[coralbandit]

You can pull the eggs and raise them without the parents. Once they hatch, it's impossible to move them.

You either have a small breeder tank for the pair and eggs or you take the eggs like Willie said .Moving eggs and parents rarely works out well.
Moving fry is if not impossible very hard on the fry . I tried using syringes and everything years ago. The best method is a small syphon tube and just vacuum them up ! Still rough on the fry .
Some parents are better then others so I let the good ones tend the eggs for 1 day and then take them .
I have not seen a pair raise fry in any of my discus tanks yet ?

[Thingsarefun]

You can pull the eggs and raise them without the parents. Once they hatch, it's impossible to move them.


You either have a small breeder tank for the pair and eggs or you take the eggs like Willie said .Moving eggs and parents rarely works out well.
Moving fry is if not impossible very hard on the fry . I tried using syringes and everything years ago. The best method is a small syphon tube and just vacuum them up ! Still rough on the fry .
Some parents are better then others so I let the good ones tend the eggs for 1 day and then take them .
I have not seen a pair raise fry in any of my discus tanks yet ?

Hmm, I guess I'll look into pulling the eggs.
I'll have to talk my wife into keeping them fed, is it as time consuming as it seems?

[coralbandit]

They need multiple feedings and the water changes that go with all the food .
Changing water does not take too long but care is needed around fry .
The most time consuming part is multiple feedings daily . They become less demanding after 2-4 weeks IMO .
You are the farmer and they are your animals .They must eat and receive proper care .
I have hatched BBS every day for over 4 years consistently now .2-3 batches every day [its a 24 hour cycle hatching and feeding]..