COUNT DOWN TO FERTLIZATION

[hunterbeav]

Hi all my wife and I just took this pair out of the 75 gal community tank 2 days ago. Well this is our first attempt at the real thing. We did let them spawn 4 times in the 75 and the last attempt was really close but the other fish came in and ate the eggs. The pair did try to defend but there were just to many to ward off lol. So will post more info as it goes, ALL SYSTEMS ARE GO HOUSTON, STANDING BY !!! :)

[hunterbeav]

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[SLY]

good luck ;)

[fcdiscus]

Nice fat pretty pair Jim. Good luck! Frank :D

[EthanCote.com]

That is one lovely pair indeed.

And the countdown beings....10...9...8...7...6...5...4...(to be continued)
Keep us posted.


Cheers,

Chi.

Wow Jim, they look super. You did an excellent job raising those guys.


Good luck with them,


Mike ;)

[April]

yes those are very nice fish. must of got them from a nice breeder. lol
id take them...

[hunterbeav]

Thank you Mike comming from you I concider that high prase. Thank you Mike my friend :)

[Jeff]

Common Jim we want to see fry.

[hunterbeav]

Thank you all for the nice comments were really proud of them. They are 10 mths old and 7 inches to the base of the tail measuring lol, the female is actually a little bigger then the male she's about 7 1/4 lol I know i know a whole 1/4 inch but if you c them side by side you really can see the differance :)

[hunterbeav]

couple more pics of them sorry all just a proud hopfully soon to be dad !!! :)

[hunterbeav]

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[Rod]

Very nice pair Jim.........good luck :)

[DarkDiscus]

Nice fish, Jim! I'm looking forward to a blow by blow of the mating/fertilization process and the development of the eggs and the growth of the fry!

John

[hunterbeav]

Well all this is there 5 th spawn and there first time in their own 29 and we have failure dang nab it they ate the eggs. :'(

[SLY]

you should screen the eggs the next time when they spawn if they are eggs eater. ;)

Damn..don't you hate pro-choice discus.

[fcdiscus]

P A T I E N C E !!!!!!-Hang in there. Frank ;)

[hunterbeav]

Guess what they didn't eat them all omg there's like 100 or so left as of right now. It's 12 midnight so will up date ya's in a while :) the female is like blowing on them and the male is like swimming around is this normal ????

[fcdiscus]

Jim- How could you miss 100 eggs?????? Frank ;)

[SLY]

ya how could u miss 100 eggs lol

[hunterbeav]

lol Frank when I saw what they were doing eatting them I said piss on it and quit watching a couple hrs latter I looked and they were about 100 eggs left yeeepppeeee I don't know if they will eat them latter but this is the longest they have had them there getting better ;D

[SLY]

I would advise u to leave them alone..further disturbance might make them change their mind and eat the eggs. :D

[hunterbeav]

UPDATE : last night at 10:15 the pair started to lay eggs. This morning I quietly canme in room expecting to find no eggs, and guess what..........................................EGGS lol. There both taking turns fanning the eggs. I haven't crawled over to tank yet to check color, but I will in a little while. UPDATE TO FOLLOW. :)

[TheDiscusKid]

Thats cool Jim. Let us know if yuo get your first batch of discus. Your going to enjoy watching them raise up the babies, its really cool. Good Luck :)

Bruce

[hunterbeav]

Thanks Bruce, Well UPDATE: I decided to feed them a few black worms and when I did I checked the eggs. There are maybe 75 eggs left and they all seem to be a yellow to amber color. Last night we saw them eatting a few more they must have been infertal ones. Is that correct? If my reading and memory in right they should develope a black dot in the egg, which would be an eye right lol ? At approx. 24 hrs? Is that right. If the eggs were going to turn white (meaning not fertial )how long would that take? Thanks all

[hunterbeav]

UPDATE: All is well at the Beaver household the pair are taking turns fanning the eggs. It's kinda like the changing of the guards at Buckinham palace. :) It's been about 17 hrs since they spawned and counting!!!!! ;D

[DarkDiscus]

Jim,

I think it would be very amusing if you named the pair Ward and June...

John

[TheDiscusKid]

When I have a male that does not fertilize the eggs, for me the eggs usually fungus over night. Maybe taking about 12 hours. That is my pair, I'm not sure how other pairs would be like. Are you using an R/O unit on your pair Jim? I don't see eyeballs on the eggs the first 24 hours. I usually see it maybe in 2 1/4 days. Then they hatch somewheres on the third day. The pairs can slo play tricks with you. The pair below had the eggs for 2 days or so, and they they had them for lunch. That spawn looked fertile too.

HTH
Bruce

[hunterbeav]

LOL John you got it thats there new names June and Ward it is, too funnie!!!!! Cool Bruce thanks for the info it helps !! :) Too bad they atem the buggers !!!!

[hunterbeav]

UPDATE: Well it's now been 24 hrs and most of the eggs are a yellow to amber color. Got a couple white ones there but not many and they seem to be picking at them!!! fingers crossed !!!!! :)

[hunterbeav]

UPDATE: 36 hrs and all is well. Did 15% w/c today and fed a few cbw's. They seem to be calming down not as jumpy as before. Really seem like different fish lol. :)

[keno]

COME ON wrigglerssssssssssssssssssssss!!!! ;D ;D ;D

[hunterbeav]

UPDATE: 48 hrs and all is well. There still fanning the eggs!! :) when do I turn off aquaClear filter and go only with hydo-sponge? At wiggler stage or before that? :)

[hunterbeav]

I don't think this is good correct me if I'm wrong. The eggs have a fuzzie growth on them, thats bad right lol ? :'(

[fcdiscus]

Hey Jim, Why do you have an aqua clear on the breeding tank. With proper WC the sponge will be all you need. Current from the AC will hurt the chances of proper fertilization. Frank

[Carol_Roberts]

Sorry, I don't see any eyes :-\

I'd go with just a sponge filter in the tank. Next week they will lay again, maybe less current will help.
Carol :heart1:

[Lynn]

Jim,

How old are these guys? Do you see the male making passes over the eggs? I ask because my young pair spawns but no success. The male is clueless and doesn't do his part.....( I am being really good and refraining from all kinds of jokes here :P)
Both care for the eggs, and then after about the same time frame that you experienced, my eggs look white too.
I don't know when they'll get it right...so far a spawn once a week since end of Sept.
Good luck.....keeping my fingers crossed for you!!
Maybe someday we can take that short road trip on I-79 and swap fry! ;D
Lynn

[hunterbeav]

Thanks all, Lynn sounds good, one of these days they'll get it right :) Well going to take the pvc out scrape off the old moldy eggs and let them start over ::)

[OEG]

Hunter,
Great start, your fish have been able to stay away from eating the eggs and that is very very good. I have two females laying but eating the eggs within a day or even sooner. I hope they learn to care for them in the near future and not eat the eggs. You already have half the battle won, good luck in the near future.
Oscar

[fcdiscus]

Jim, I was going to say the same thing Oscar just said. You have a good pair- they did not eat the eggs. Stick with them and youwill be home. :D Frank

[OEG]

Frank,
Brilliant minds think alike. 8)

[keno]

Im getting wrigglers in my show tank and so tempted to take them out, but Ill wait for 2 nicer fish to pair. My water must be good, not many fungased at all, geeeeeeee what to do?

Ken