regal
12-27-2002, 06:27 PM
Physical condition of the fish
1. visible parasites (describe) NONE
2. stringy feces NO
3. head standing NO
4. bloated/ constipated NO
5. Hole in the head, lateral line erosion NO
6. spots, salt like flecks, velvety appearance,cotton like growths etc. NO
7. excessive slime production NO
8. labored breathing, disfunctional gill NO
9. cloudy eyes NO
10.darkened color SLIGHT
11. faded colorNO
12. other unusual changes... NO
Water parameters
1. pH? 6.8
2. Temperature… 86f
3. hardness? 3KH
4. conductivity? 250 MICROs
5. TDS?
6. R/O (reverse osmosis) filtered, or Tap (well or chlorinated city water), rain water WELL
7. Water change regime? ( example .. 30 % daily, weekly monthly etc) 30% DAILY
8. appearance (cloudy, green , clear, yellowish etc) CLEAR
9. Odor (smells clean or sulfur-lit match smell-anaerobic indicator) CLEAN
Tank parameters
1. Size in gallons/liters? 40 GALLON
2. Substrate.? (bare glass, gravel, sand..) BARE
3. Planted? NO
4. Drift wood? NO
Filter types
1 Wet/dry?
2. Canister?
3. hanging box( aquaclear whisper etc)?
4. sponges? YES
5. supplimental Peat filter?
6. supplimental air?
7. Carbon, resin exchanges, ammo-chips etc
General….
1. Diet(what and how often do you feed you fish? SEE BELOW
2. Other tank occupants than discus? NO
3. How many Discus in your tank? 6
4. How long have you had them? 2 WEEKS
5. Where did you get them (breeder/ Local Fish Shop -LFS) BELOW
7. Medications/ salt treatments recently used or tried to treat this problem? SALT (1 tsp/5 gal) raised temp to 90f
I bought two batches of discus the last couple weeks (my first.) First I went to a highly respected breeder and bought three 4 inchers (brown, red turq, snake.) These fish wouldn't eat finally I called the breeder and said they must be fed "Haikari Frozen Bloodworms" which they did eat but not aggressivley. Then I went to "that pet place" and I bought three 2" discus thinking a smaller fish would adapt better. These fish are just as finicky they will only eat Haikari bloodworms! I have tried mysis, brine, misquito larvae, frozen beefheart, and also a frozen beefheart recipe that I ground. Today I brought home some live blackworms and all the discus love them.
My delima is I dont want a $80/month feed bill for these discus. I was planning on a beefheart staple but they wont touch it. They wont even touch the SF bay bloodworms only the Hakari which cost twice as much. I tried not feeding them for 3 days but didn't help. Any ideas?
1. visible parasites (describe) NONE
2. stringy feces NO
3. head standing NO
4. bloated/ constipated NO
5. Hole in the head, lateral line erosion NO
6. spots, salt like flecks, velvety appearance,cotton like growths etc. NO
7. excessive slime production NO
8. labored breathing, disfunctional gill NO
9. cloudy eyes NO
10.darkened color SLIGHT
11. faded colorNO
12. other unusual changes... NO
Water parameters
1. pH? 6.8
2. Temperature… 86f
3. hardness? 3KH
4. conductivity? 250 MICROs
5. TDS?
6. R/O (reverse osmosis) filtered, or Tap (well or chlorinated city water), rain water WELL
7. Water change regime? ( example .. 30 % daily, weekly monthly etc) 30% DAILY
8. appearance (cloudy, green , clear, yellowish etc) CLEAR
9. Odor (smells clean or sulfur-lit match smell-anaerobic indicator) CLEAN
Tank parameters
1. Size in gallons/liters? 40 GALLON
2. Substrate.? (bare glass, gravel, sand..) BARE
3. Planted? NO
4. Drift wood? NO
Filter types
1 Wet/dry?
2. Canister?
3. hanging box( aquaclear whisper etc)?
4. sponges? YES
5. supplimental Peat filter?
6. supplimental air?
7. Carbon, resin exchanges, ammo-chips etc
General….
1. Diet(what and how often do you feed you fish? SEE BELOW
2. Other tank occupants than discus? NO
3. How many Discus in your tank? 6
4. How long have you had them? 2 WEEKS
5. Where did you get them (breeder/ Local Fish Shop -LFS) BELOW
7. Medications/ salt treatments recently used or tried to treat this problem? SALT (1 tsp/5 gal) raised temp to 90f
I bought two batches of discus the last couple weeks (my first.) First I went to a highly respected breeder and bought three 4 inchers (brown, red turq, snake.) These fish wouldn't eat finally I called the breeder and said they must be fed "Haikari Frozen Bloodworms" which they did eat but not aggressivley. Then I went to "that pet place" and I bought three 2" discus thinking a smaller fish would adapt better. These fish are just as finicky they will only eat Haikari bloodworms! I have tried mysis, brine, misquito larvae, frozen beefheart, and also a frozen beefheart recipe that I ground. Today I brought home some live blackworms and all the discus love them.
My delima is I dont want a $80/month feed bill for these discus. I was planning on a beefheart staple but they wont touch it. They wont even touch the SF bay bloodworms only the Hakari which cost twice as much. I tried not feeding them for 3 days but didn't help. Any ideas?