Aussie, Aussie, Aussie 3!!!

[ecc.oldlady]

Porche, never get to see ferrari, he is very shy

[ecc.oldlady]

bad photo but this is my favorite

Royal Albert with the elusive wedgewood in the back ground

[Emminess]

Blue is my favourite colour - shame its a blurry pic...

I keep reminding Matt its our fish...but they are eating from my hands now - they must love me.

Bad news - we lost two more rumy nosed fishy....silly things...

we tried to get them to breed, the other week by taking a male and female outta the big tank....but the female died. :sick:

I will take some nice shots one day, if Matty lets me have a go with the camera....

:D

[Multiclone]

TAKE 23 - The "murderers" have laid again. One day they may get it right.

Geoff

[yippy]

LOL Geoff - those Murderers ;D

Hows Eve? Still got eggs ???

Kerry :D

[yippy]

hey Michelle, i got your email - but then next thing they were posted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like you got it right.

Just takes a bit of getting used to - i get heaps of blurred pics - need a steady hand luv.

Kerry :)

[Multiclone]

Eve's a mummy egss hatched last night ;D ;D ;D

Geoff

[yippy]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :waaa:

Poor Eve, shes too young to handle that pressure!!!!

Hows Nob & Pril?

Kerry :)

[Multiclone]

Re: Nobby & Pril and how they are settling in a picture says a thousand words. Look careful.

[Multiclone]

;D ;D ;D

Geoff

[Multiclone]

Eve has shifted her babies to the back of the cone after giving me a heart attack went to see how they were couldn't see them :-\ they do it too me every time.
The male "murderer" has given her a 'white eye' (same as our black eye) so I had to take her out.I am going to give them to Take 30 then I make a nice beer batter and then :P.

Geoff

[yippy]

wow ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Geoff thats great - lets hope they have nice kids - good on you !!!!!!!

Kerry

keep me posted on my kids !!!!!!

[yippy]

Think eve needs a break - near the beach ;D ;D ;D ;D for a few years lol

Kerry 8)

[ecc.oldlady]

Crystals's on a roll here, and I can't keep up.

She is currently 'feeding' about 50(now ) 7day freeswimming fry, and she has gone and laid another 100+ eggs on the bottom of the tank. What should I do after all the effort I went to (see upset apple cart in breeding section), I dont want her to now eat her fry.

Michelle

[Multiclone]

Hi Michelle,
At a guess I would say you have stimulated her with the water changes. I had this problem once and from now on I make sure the fresh water is the same temp as the tank water never had a problem since. At a guess I would get rid of the eggs.
Just spoke to Rod get rid of the eggs.
Isn't it fun raising fry ?:-\.

Geoff

[ecc.oldlady]

Thanks Geoff

I will at next water change.

Fry still not eating fresh bbs, but problem is I am going away this weekend and can't expect my poor mum to grow bbs and look after the family. How do you think frozen bbs will go?

Michelle

[ecc.oldlady]

Hey Geoff

forgot to say congrats on your new additions too

Michelle

[Multiclone]

At 7 days free swimming they will be fine on the parents only.

Geoff

[ecc.oldlady]

They will be 11 days freeswimming by the weekend when she is looking after them.

Michelle

[Multiclone]

Will be ok
IMO parents and fish are a lethal combination :scared:

Geoff

[Mattzilla]

anyone here good with plants???

http://forum.simplydiscus.com//index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=17599;st art=0#lastPost

help me out pleeeeaasse

ta
matt

[yippy]

Come on geoff - spit her up - Evie needs a seaside break. 8)

Kerry

[ari_wh]

Matt,
You already got good advice from Walter and Phil. There is nothing more to add at the moment. Just increase your light and see what happens in the next few weeks. It is better to change one parameter at the time... otherwise you might end up with algae.

Regards, Ari :)

[Mattzilla]

thanks ari...i am going to buy a stronger light some time soon and see if that works....

it's odd though, the plants that are further away from the light source are growing the best....
i would have thought that it would be the opposite if there was not enough light in the tank

what do you think?

matt

[Multiclone]

Hi Matt,
The plants you are after are called Philodendrons you can obtain them from any nursery. They come in many different forms. One word of caution though. I have read a few post where they say to take a cutting and stick it in the tank. The only problem is their sap is toxic. I would take the cutting and place it in a glass of water until it grows roots then place it in the tank. This way the cut is healed and no sap will leach into the tank. Even though I haven't read or heard of any fish keeling over IMO better to be safe than sorry.
They are shade lovers and will thrive in a tank with normal room lighting.

Geoff

[Mattzilla]

thanks for the advice geoff...but i don't want to buy any more plants, just spruce up the ones i have..

matt

[Multiclone]

Matt :thumbsup:

Kerry,
Nobby had eggs for breakfast yesterday morning.
Eve's babies are about to go free swimming any minute now.

Geoff...

[ari_wh]

Matt,

It will all depends on what kind of plants they are. Different plants have different light requirements. Even different anubias might need different condition to thrive. The hardest thing is to find a balance so that all the plants are looking healthy.

I find that either you go bb or planted tank all the way. I used to have anubias on driftwood in one of my tank, and I actually find it hard to keep the plants looking nice - they are either all dying or covered with algae. It is much easier when I actually plant the whole tank with substrate and all. I don't have CO2, so I stick with heavy root feeder and slow grower plants, like enchinodorus, anubias, aponogeton, nymphea. My tank is not as green as the ones with CO2, because there is nothing better than those stem plants to create gorgeous planted tanks... but I am happy enough with my tanks and my discus are happy. Considering my water is too soft, it is far too risky to go CO2 way... Maybe one day...

HTH.

Regards, Ari :)

[luke_potts]

Man u lot can talk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

cheers
luke ;D

[yippy]

Nobby never usually does that - might be eve spookin her - better send Eve here for a bit - her hubby can mind the kids - Ill have a quiet word with Nob on saturday when i come up to swim in your pool. have you got my lily ready????? Geoff

[Multiclone]

Kerry, Eve will be busy the next month or so.

Geoff

[Multiclone]

If I don't take away the fry soon they will be as big as the parents :-\

[Multiclone]

Blue Diamond fry after a big feed of BBS.
Sorry about the quality of the photo.

[Multiclone]

BD

[Mattzilla]

what did eve have fry with?? what strain>> and to you have a picture??

[Multiclone]

Hi Matt,
He is a Blue Diamond. If Kerry was about she would call him Adam am sure of it. ::). Come to think of it she hasn't replied probably sulking lol.

Geoff

[Mattzilla]

have they raised fry before???

what will the fry look like???

ta
matt

[Multiclone]

This is only their 2nd spawning the first time they ate the eggs early. This time they are fine - so far that is.
Yet the "murderers" a pair of PB have laid 23 times and eaten them all as they hatch. Eve is a lot bigger and was beating him up and I nearly took him out but with past experience if they get to the hatching stage then the free swimming stage they settle right down as a pair. That is what has happened with these 2 they are a perfect pair now. OOPS nearly forgot - so far.
As for the colour of the fry I haven't got a clue. This is what I love the most about raising fry watching them grow and seeing what they turn into. We never know what we will end up with.

Geoff

[Mattzilla]

well good luck with them

i think eve is a stunning fish so the fry will hopefully have a lot of her atributes...

please keep us updated with plenty of pictures...
how many fry??

[Multiclone]

Thanks Matt, there are 100+ fry.

Geoff

[yippy]

Im going back on saturday - with bags >:(

poor Eve :'(

[Rod]

Looking good Geoff :)

[luke_potts]

Geoff,
if you need to get rid of any of those BD fry pleeeeeeeease send some down south. i'm sure they will enjoy the change of Climate

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers
luke

[April]

they all look great. but..im sure their all got flight plans to come to canada...
sorry Luke...the plane is booked.

[Mattzilla]

geoff... i want some of eve's fry....do you have any other discue the same strain as eve that you could breed her with to kkep the strain pure in the future??
if so i would be very interested in some fry...

cheers
matt

[luke_potts]

Nah dont think they would like THAT much of a climate change April!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Gets too cold in winter there for the poor little things :( :( it would be cruel April ;) ;) well thats my theory

cheers
luke

[Multiclone]

Thanks for the interest everyone but I think we are counting our fry before they have grown. :) We have still got a way to go yet but it is looking good.

Geoff

[lesley]

Hi multilcone, and Matt

You can also use Pothos (Epipremnum aureum)aureum for the golden version. It is often called Devils Ivy, however read the botanical name because other plants are sold under the common name. It appears to me to be slightly more manageable than the Philodendrons that have always grown larger for me. Don't know if it is toxic or not!!

HTH, Lesley

[lesley]

sorry Geoff for mispelling - hard day and even harder week to blame I think!

[lesley]

Matt,

was just hunting around for something and came across this site - it would appear that Pothos is not poisonous and this link is not indicating that aureum means golden.

The site says that at least the species it mentions of Philodendrons are poisonous, however, like Geoff I have used Philos. without ill effect.

[lesley]

Matt,

was just hunting around for something and came across this site - it would appear that Pothos is not poisonous and this link is not indicating that aureum means golden.

The site says that at least the species it mentions of Philodendrons are poisonous, however, like Geoff I have used Philos. without ill effect.

http://www.blankees.com/house/plants/air_cleaners.htm

[yippy]

Sorry guys, you all missed out - Ill be at Geoffs tomorrow.

WITH BAGS ;D

Evie's fry are destined to stay at Geoffs or wherever- Evie is comin here for a beachside holiday ;D

Dont worry Rod, Jezebels sister is gonna be here soon too :o A beachside easter break will do them both good.

Kerry

[Multiclone]

How so much can change in a few hours.
There has been all out war between Eve and her BD mate. I went into the fishroom to find them beating hell out of each other. Initially I thought it was a passing spat however they would rest for a minute then resume the battle. I was in a dilema as what to do because each fish had a mass of fry attached and it would have been impossible to catch one without the fry as they were trying to re-attach all through the battles. Also I was afraid there may be too many fry to raise for 1 fish, there would be at least 150 of them. Anyway I decided to partition the tank with 'egg-crate' which worked well for a whole 15 minutes. The fry were swimming back and forth ok and I thought this may work ha ha. He became increasingly agitated and began ignoring his share of the brood and I began to see murder in his eye and when he gulped down a fry and spat it out in pieces I took him and the partition out. Eve swam over picked up his fry and all is at peace again - so far.
Following are a few pics of 3 generations of fry I have moved into a 7' tank there are about 100 of them ranging from 3 1/2 months to 1 month. Doing this has freed up 2 4' tanks.

Geoff

[Multiclone]

Fry

[Multiclone]

Fry

[yippy]

Ill be there around 9am today Geoff,

WITH BAGS ;D

Kerry

[Multiclone]

The only bags you will have at 9am are the ones under your eyes. :)

Geoff

[mattrox]

Look at all those cute fry. Well done Geoff! :D

[yippy]

you had bags under YOUR eyes Geoff 8)

heres the pics i took today.

On the way up :o

[yippy]

Your - i mean my future entrance to my property - im pushin you over the hill sorry geoff. :D with Prils help. ;)

[yippy]

:waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa:

Evie - what have you done to your new mummy :'(

[yippy]

That good lookin guy :o

[yippy]

8)

[yippy]

::)

[yippy]

The lab- Geoff looks great in his white lab coat ;D

[yippy]

His "brews"

:o

[yippy]

i think hes got ideas of cloning these REAL BIG and planting them at the entrance >:(

SNAP SNAP - KERRY AND PRIL

[yippy]

Down the hill I go - back to the big smoke - not for long tho

hehehehe ;D

[yippy]

On My way home - i called into Fab Fish and played with "Cat" the barramundi.

Hes loooooooooooooooooooooves being scratched - Mick at Fab Fish - actually they are now called Sublime Aquariums - took these of me and Cat - he loves nice big prawns and boy does he snap them down quick - like a bolt of lightning :o

[yippy]

this ones a bit blurred - Cat just goes in ecstacy ;D

[yippy]

Another one ;D Think Im in love ::) Ill be very happy when I confiscate Eve and Cat ;)

[yippy]

ive never seen one of these before - they can grow to 50cms and are VERY VERY VERY AGGRESSIVE. its a Monoculus cichlid. Hard to come by I believe.

Ok - thats been my day 8)

Kerry

Oh, that's it! >:( I;m moving next door to Kerry. :D It's either you or Discus_KC. You have very nice tanks and the land in Oz looks sweeeeet. :o

Hi, Kerry Merry! :wave:

That's a beautiful Barramundi (sp?). Is "Cat" alone in a tank?

**Angie**

[Rod]

Nice pics kerry, Geoffs fish sure do look good. But that barra looks even better....yum yum....hehehehe!! :o

[yippy]

hi Angie Pangie, come to Oz, help me pinch Rod and Geoffs fish ;)

Cat (the barramundi) is in with 2 red devils, a pair of dovii, and a jag and a big pleco. And a couple of others - i think a cuban - cant remember lol. :)

Hes awesome.

Rodney, you should be shot for saying that - Cat the barra is a pet - not for human consumption. You are now banned form 'HEAVEN' - golfing putting area is being dug up as i type and birds are on the lookout ;D Great big wild cockatoos with huge beaks. ;D and your cake has been thrown out.

:argue: :whip: :spank:

kerry

[yippy]

heres an update on Ping ;D

Rodney conned me into this one - but im happy ; :D

Kerry

[yippy]

great fins Ping :o

[yippy]

Ping, youre one of the best bettas ive had - youre a real show off.

Everytime i go near you tank youre flaring and showing off.

Not long now - youll have your little 25 watt heater for the cooler months. :sun:

kerry

[ping]

Nice pictures :)

The fins are too have for me to carry around ... When can i have hair cut ;D.
Nice ..... little heater for me ;D

Ronny

[Multiclone]

I agree with you Rod that Barra wrapped in foil a little lemon and slowly cooked on the barbie Mmmmmmmmm. :P

Geoff

[yippy]

Well Geoff - youre gonna have to find a new residence that has a barbie first. :D

Heres one for you too :spank::spank::spank::spank::spank::spank::spank:: spank::spank::spank::spank::spank::spank::spank::s pank:

[April]

I havent had the pleasure of eating barramundi..someone better invite me to the Barbie when its time..so i can taste it.
dont worry Rodney..theres still a great golf course in canoz..and no birds and..tee off time anytime..and great partners just sitting waiting for you to show up. ;D
Ping is rather fancy then..isnt he??
im great with scissoring..i can do a nice style for you ping.. a bit off here ..and a bit there.. and voila fancy as heck

[yippy]

Like you do with those dogs Pril? ;)

[mattrox]

One of these day's I am gonna go Barra fishing!

If anyone wants to, come up we'll have to hire a guide and catch a few.

Of course there is the obligatory beer and You can see my Discus too.

[mattrox]

OUR discus.... They are Emma's too.... she keeps reminding me ;D

[April]

yeppers kerry..dog..fish..all relative. just a bit different texture fur and featherings..

[yippy]

How do you make fish stay still tho Pril?????? same as dogs ???

hey Rod, heres our new van to run Cary around in when he arrives - heaps of room for a few extra golfing buddies too for after golf guzzle ups. :D

Kerry

[April]

LOl Kerry..dont go giving my keeping dogs still secrets away...
that only works on whole males. :o

[yippy]

Whats a "WHOLE" dog pril? Ive never see part-dogs. Must be weird animals in canuk land.

heres a coupla pics of non-canada-bound fish ;D

kerry
(Carys Mummie - Unwrapped)

[yippy]

Bit of glare sorry. Theyre both doin great the alencers - tho one has bars - one doesnt - but theyre same size and eating like pigs.

heres my grandkid - last of Bruties kid - bound for Sarah ;D

Kerry

[yippy]

adoption update

http://forum.simplydiscus.com//index.php?board=9;action=display;threadid=17507;st art=30

for rodney

Kerry ;D

[ecc.oldlady]

kERRY

what else do you have in your tank with your alencer?
Is that a bristlenose catfish? What is the blurry thing in the bottom corner?

I have been wanting to put my catfish back in with my pair with fry, they are 12 days freeswimming now and the bbs makes such a mess, do you think a small bristlnose would eat them?

I can't believe how much they have grown. I went away for the weekend, they survived(mostly) grandma and 3 children looking after them, and when I got back they have doubled in size!!!

I think Stuart may be having daytime snacks as I am sure there are now only 46 fish left!! He was fighting with Crystal on Friday and so I separated them but he kept butting the barrier so I let him go and he seemed better, but I will be keeping a close eye on him.

When should I remove Stuart and Crystal? If I remove just Stuart will they remain a pair?

Michelle

[ecc.oldlady]

This is today

[ecc.oldlady]

Hard to get a photo as they look clear but this is the best of them

Michelle

[Multiclone]

Hi Michelle,
Good to see they survived the weekend ok I never had any doubts. ;).
Once they start eating bbs they do grow like weeds. I haven't had any experience with adding catfish to the tank with fry ( I am a one fish man ). However I would say no as the parents will be protective still and may consider the intruder a threat which it probably will be.
If one of them is showing signs of aggression I would take him/her out of the tank completely, yes they will remain a pair when you return them to the same tank.
As for taking the fry from the parents some people say 14 days some 21 and some a month. I like to leave mine together a month with at least one of the parents. Or at the very least until the fry are starting to eat BH etc. Even though they can be taken away once they start eating bbs IMO they are being weaned too early and will miss out on the added nutrition from the parents that's why I leave them with the parents. Also it gives me some added flexibility with feeding times as they are still getting parental supplements. Once you take the fry away you will have to feed regularly.
Oh! I nearly forgot you may be overfeeding with the bbs I did the same thing initially. Feed them a 1/4 of what you are feeding now and keep an eye on their bellies, you will see them go pink and bulge with the bbs keep adding bbs until you see this then you will know how much to feed them as they grow bigger just up the amount. I use this method still with 3 month old fish.

Geoff..

[yippy]

Hi Michelle,

I have a male and female bristlenose plec, 3 albino cories and a couple of bronze cories - theyre great little cleaners - I love cories, one of my favourite fish. Never bother anyone, just clean away on their merry way ;D

Kerry :)

[flukes]

Well i think i joined this a bit too late :o 3 threads and still kicking strong. Well firstly ill introduce myself, iam scott (another one) from melbourne, se suburbs. I been keeping dickies for about a year. I am just setting up a few more tanks and looking for some good breeders, is heart breaking that Aquarium Industries is so close to me but i cant buy from them. :'(
Anyone all the discus i have so far are from Slippery little Suckers in sydney. Not bad but iam after something different. And i need some partners for the fish i already have, iam after a red snakeskin and a pearl pigeon. Also looking at anything really iam open to new things..
But if someone can let me know of some good breeders that would be great. Melbourne seems to have a lack of them, must be the inconsistant weather.
I know iam a bit late (3 threads late!!) but i am here now..
Hope i can get some good contacts as i got a few tanks to fill..

Cheers
Scott

[Mattzilla]

g'day scotty,
good to see you here too mate

mattzilla

[yippy]

Gidday Scottie,

Just call Rod Lewis - hes our aussie champ discus breeder - i have gorgeous pbs from him.

(another 2 alencers thanx Rod for plugs)

And stay away from Matt - he drinks too much beer ::)

PS: if rods not at work - call the golf club

[April]

Ditto to Rod Lewis. he also has some imports. but..his homebred fish are the best fish for health and quality..in most of the world! ok..they are all slated to come to Canada..so better hurry up before i clean him out. I already have some of his fish in my tanks. need more...
heres his email. lewisdiscus@optusnet.com.au.
Kerry stold my alencers from him!!
Heh Scott...did you read all three aussie posts??? oh...im the canaussie around here. ;D
glad you made it over here.

[yippy]

Come on Pril

STOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :book:

Well im gonna be "stolding' more - theyre Aussies not canuks or pucks :o Hockey dish fish 8)

Kerry ???

[Multiclone]

Hi Scott, welcome aboard, the more the merrier. As Kerry and April would say the bigger the party.

Geoff

[Rod]

Hi Scott,

Welcome to the board and our little section of it. :)

Hi Michelle,

Nice lookin babies there, congrats

Hi April and Kerry,

Thanks for the plug, your 50 bucks is in the mail, just hope it doesn't gert lost this time ;D

Rod

Haven't posted any pics in awhile, heres a turk i have been growing out that stating to show some nice potential :)

[flukes]

Ahh cool ill give Rod an email, Iam guessing he is in queensland? we are all the melbourne breeders!!! non-existant anyway with all the praise here iam sure ill get some top discus off rod.

Thanks for the help and the warm welcome guys

Cheers
Scott

[luke_potts]

Ok so you could give ANOTHER rod a call!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Rod Coleman that is..........................i have got some of his fish and they too are great ;) ;) ;) He is a little closer than Rod L. Rod C is in Vic pretty close to Bendigo email him and ask him what he has ATM?????
Here's his email rcoleman@csc.vic.edu.au

Cheers
Luke

[luke_potts]

Hey guys,

.............................i was justv reading through a few old posts and have come up with this question

WHERE IS CHONG ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

i know ur still round chong ;D ;D ;D ;D

cheers
luke

[Mattzilla]

chong is m.i.a

he used to access simply while at work but his work busted him for doing so. now he hardly ever gets on. that's what he tells me anyway.

hth

[yippy]

ok guys, dont bother with any other discus specialists - just call Rod. HE'S DA MAN 8)

now can i have Jezebels sister Rodney ??? - ill even let Geoff off the hook with Eve ;D the cheque did get lost.

kerry

[Multiclone]

Kerry,
I think Eve would like one of your Alencers as a mate so I can expect a visit and a fish in a bag ;D.

Geoff

[yippy]

Geoff

the only fish you'll be seeing from me are the dead ones off my mates trawler when I come out for the big seafood picnic.

Now hop to it - :whip: get that Evie bagged up or no prawns OR dead fish.

Kerry

here drooooool..lol jk

~Joe ;D

ps dont they call these aussy bass? lmao

;D

;D

;D

;D

;D

[yippy]

:o- :o :o :o :o

OK - Im drooling - wait till Matt sees these - hes gonna be drunk from envy - well he'll probly have had a few anyway -these fronts will just make him drink more.

Ohhhhh no, its good friday - he'll be worse ::)

Kerry ;D

kerry cant ya just wait!!!!! lol

[yippy]

sorry - i was too busy drooling - ;D

Here is my fav pleco, we are pals..hehe its a L-24 cactus pleco

[Mattzilla]

you just gotta love joe's fish......

drooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

[yippy]

I knew youd drool Matt. havin a beer???? (silly question)

Come on msn :)

Kezza

[ecc.oldlady]

Off to Malaysia on Tuesday for a week.

My fry survived my weekend away with Grandma looking after the house, now lets see if they survive a week with my husband (the discus money-pit hater). Bad timing to go away but who knew the fish would decide to spawn when they did.

Does anyone know how to get into see some of those famous discus farms? I think it would be a great opportunity to see them in action.

Anyone want me to bring back some take-away for them?? ;D ;D

Michelle

[Rod Coleman]

Hi Folks

I haven't posted for a long while. Just not enough hours in the day to do everything... and too many fish to look after LOL.

My Blue x F1 Wild babies are coming on really nicely. I'l have to put some photos up when I get a chance.

So just a quick hello to all ;D

Luke, I'm glad you're happy with those fishies. Have you taught them to "school" yet?

Nice pics, Joe.

Regards
Rod

[April]

well well..look what the cat dragged in. the other Rod. or.. Rod 2.
nice to see yah. glad your fish are doing well.
joe..those discus of yours are a tad unround..sorry to imform you..they should be more like a dinner plate. might have to cull them.

[yippy]

WELL WELL WELL WELL

MR Coleman has decided to pop in - no excuses Rod - keep your head in here at least once a year ok ;D

Kerry

Sorry krill im not into pancakes.... there for eating not keeping in a tank..lmao ;D

[yippy]

Well fronts would look good battered on a stick - like you see at shows and fairs - we call them"Dagwood Dogs" here or 'Pluto Pups" yeah "Front Pups" sounds koola !!!!!


heheheheh ;D

Kerry

Well like most fish , and with alot of african cichlids they are eatin by the natives of africa.. just like we fish out rivers lakes and oceans for food as so do they with what they have... i talked with a guy around a year or so ago, and he had a guge tank full of zaire blue frontosas almost the same as vistamikes tank.. well it broke when he was at the store and when he came home it was to late to bring any of them back .. so being a fish eater he was he filetd them and ate them all.. he said they were pretty good and tasted like catfish... and if you have eatin any flathead cats from the states you would know how good they taste...

eat away!!!!!!!


~Joe ;D

[Rod Coleman]

Hi Kerry, April,

I'm just about to get into a big fish 'arvo. Ive been away for 4 days and the fish have been on minimal maintenance. Time for some big water changes and a new BH mix.

Rod

[yippy]

well mr coleman,

hows that old swivel chair??? ???

careful now - lol - ceiling fan got me again today :o

kerry

[Rod Coleman]

Wow - watch out for that fan, Kerry. And I thought my tanks were up too high.

Chair still swivels OK. Haven't come off for a while LOL.

Rod

[yippy]

Thats great news Rod2 - i was worried you may have been AWOL due to 'ol swivelly - lol ;D

Kerry

[Multiclone]

Fry update.

Geoff

[Multiclone]

More

[Multiclone]

Ditto

[Multiclone]

Another

[Multiclone]

BD fry - feeding time.

[Multiclone]

Another fry

[Multiclone]

Nobby & Pril with eggs.

[Multiclone]

Eve has been a perfect mother on her own and so many kids to look after.
Sorry about the fog, the lens was fogging up.

[Multiclone]

That's all HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE. :wave:

Geoff

[April]

wow looking good multiclone... it kinda makes me want to try to raise a batch right about now..think i will give my alencer a room of her own with some nice boy. maybe mr. mana.

[ping]

wow .. looking good everyone ;).
Pril, are those Rod's grandkids ? ;D

Ronny

[yippy]

Great pics Geoff - those fry of yours have doubled in size almost since I was there. :o

Thats far too much pressure for Eve - Im bringing a bag next week - she needs a beachside holiday. ;D

Nob and Prils eggs look good - hope we get grandkids - been dyin to see how theyd look out of them.

heres my huge spawn from blue turqs - i think i may need to get an 8 foot grow out - Rod said I only need a 1 gallon - but I think hes telling me fibs so he can fishnap. ???

[yippy]

Im really panicking - dont know if ill have room :D

[yippy]

last one - anyone want any of the THREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well temps here have been hot - but THREE eggs made it - theyre going on 3 weeks of age now - eating beefheart even off the bottom - its a big job feeding them all ???

Kerry

[yippy]

i stripped the planted tank yesterday - had to cut all the plants back - heres a couple of the rest of the mob before i put the plants back in - looks bare with no plants. The alencers are in the 4 foot in bedroom - ill get some more of them later. :)

[yippy]

More mob 8)

[yippy]

Theyre Congo tetras in there- geez theyre pretty fish - heres David - he was like Cary the BD - when I bought him last week - i had to go the docs - it was too hot to leave him in the car so he came in and met Dr David - then we went and met the nice man at the bottleshop - hes a good fish David - very well behaved. ::)

[yippy]

Just more bettas - Ping - dont panic - youre still on your own in Castle De Ping ::)

[yippy]

ok - I know, I know youve all missed Brutie - heres an Easter present for you.

Kerry ;D

[ping]

where is me and my castle .. Castle De Ping ;D.
Wow .. Brutie .. very nice :).

[yippy]

Ill post you later Ping, when i post more of the alencers. ;D

[ecc.oldlady]

kerry

Nice photos,

Excuse my ingorance ( I only know what a read here), but what kind are they, and who is who?

I also like your betta tanks where do you get those? I also keep bettas, and use old vases and carafes, ( I prefer bottled wine now), those tanks are really cute.

[yippy]

Want the names - lol

Well,

the 2 Golden PB's are from Rod Lewis, theyre names are Jack & Rod

The Cobalt is named Bubba

The BDs are Cary & Cherub

The striated PB - is Pidge

The blue turqs with the huge spawn of 3 are Timmy & Jemma

The brown based (not sure of her strain) is Lucky

Geoff also has a pair of mine posted with eggs - Nobby & Pril - hes being an uncle for a few months - ive been wanting to breed with them myself - but dont have the room.

Ill post the Alencers later with Castle De Ping. I have names for all the bettas but wont bore you with that - lol
I bought those betta set ups at the lfs - pretty cool i reckon.

Kerry :)

[ecc.oldlady]

I especially like lucky.

Is he/she what is called a wild?

How do you get invited to the inner sanctum of the famous Rod Lewis?? :)

Michelle

[Multiclone]

A nice bunch of kids there April. Obviously Kerry has sent you some of the water we have here?
Kerry I think an 8' tank may be bit small for those 3 monsters. Also I think that tank you have stripped down needs a complete clean and wipe out. You had better bring those fish up here while you do it. While you are at it you should do the Alencer tank as well and bring them up as well for us to "look" after. ;D

Geoff

[ecc.oldlady]

Hi Geoff

well here is the latest on my golden scorpion babbies.

I took out Stuart and he totally terrorised my community tank(again), then crystal started acting weird. Floating sideways and non responsive, the light was flickering so I turned it off and she recovered so I think she may have been "hypnotised" by it. :(
Crystal then began getting annoyed at having to do all the work without her husband to help, and would flick the babies off and try to get away to a moments peace, (i wish), with no luck of course, so I returned Stuart for some R and R, again they fought, and the next couple of days a few babies died for no apparent reason.
I ended up removing Crystal to the community tank , everyone is happy.

We have stablised whatever was causing fish to die, maybe it was not fully hatched bbs, would that kill them???

I have 35 remaining. ;D

All growing well, Stuart happy, Crystal happy, all the others happy, now I am going away for 10 days, and my husband will be looking after them all :-\ :-\ :-\

He (like all spouses as I can gather, not keen on my discus money pit as he calls it) is not happy about having to do all the water change and feeding routine, but can see little $20 notes swimming around in my bb tank so is willing to give it a try.

When I gat back I expect they will be huge, and ready to go out on there own.

I do not have a third tank to grow them out in so should I leave them in the 2 ft with daily water change, or put them in my 4ft community tank with weekly water change?

Michelle

[yippy]

Michelle, Im not sure if Lucky is wild based - I bought her because i felt sorry for her - she was about 1 inch and the last one left - all on her own - shes laid with Pidge - but in the planted tank - so Ill wait and see how the alencers turn out - if ones a male - ill try and breed some with them. Rod has been here and seen her, he may know - i have no idea - but shes pretty :gorgeous:

As for the the Inner Sanctum of Rod Lewis - just do what I do - lob on his doorstep - WITH BAGS !!!!!!!

Geoff, no Eve, no more of my fish !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :spank:

Kerry

[ecc.oldlady]

Kerry

love your work ;D ;D ;D


Michelle

[yippy]

Too easy Michelle - ;)

HAVE BAGS...WILL VISIT ;D

Kerry

[Multiclone]

Yea Michelle Kerry does that here as well but I keep putting holes in her bags. >:(

Geoff

[yippy]

I know your tricks Geoff - why do you think I bring a 4ml thick bucket hidden in the car with water?????

Soon as Im out the gate - into the bucket they go

Dont trust him Michelle, take re-inforcements to Geoffs ;)

or take a friend whos interested in plants, tell Geoff to take him for a walk down the hill to see his greenhouses -you stay in the fishroom pretending to take pics - and whooshka - Geoff doesnt even notice!!!!

Kerry 8)

[Multiclone]

Michelle,
Sounds you have found the balance with the parents ok. Be careful about feeding the fry "off" BBS I did this recently with the BD fry the BBS were on the edge, the water was beginning to smell and was becoming cloudy which is a sign of bacteria. I lost 2 overnight plus 3 weren't too good but have recovered. I have learnt my lesson " if in doubt chuck them out".
As for the community tank I have no idea about them. Kerry or Rod are probably more able to help there. The only trouble I can foresee is they will become a snack and a possible pollution problem with the extra mouths to feed.

Geoff

[ecc.oldlady]

Geoff, and RodL

When I get back, I am mentoring Kerry so lookout for me on your doorsteps.
( but I am after tank setups so I will be in a ute not with bags, and will bring my mum who will talk greenhouses for a looong time.)

Michelle

[yippy]

Hey good thinkin Michelle, Mums love plant talk - lol :)

Kerry

[Rod]

Hi Michelle,

If you ever want to come over and check out the discus ring me on 3890 3108 or email me at lewisdiscus@optusnet.com.au to arrange a time. No inner sanctum here, everyone is welcome.

Rod

[yippy]

Rod would best able to answer that question best - i have my hands full here my HUGE spawn. ???

Kerry

[ecc.oldlady]

Thanks Rod

gotta go , my 7yr old son just stepped on and killed our hand raised, house wandering latino cockatiel.

Have to go and perform a burial service in our garden.

RIP Lilly

Michelle

[yippy]

Awww Michelle, may he RIP :'( :angel:

Well THATS SAD.


Heres the Alencers from the "Inner Sanctum". ;D Henry and Al ;D

Sorry about some slightly unlean glass- in middle of doing a w/c and feeding sorry ???

Kerry

[yippy]

Hands off Geoff :whip:

[yippy]

8)

[yippy]

last one - then Castle De Ping :D

[yippy]

Rod very subtly conned me into this betta

"hey, Kerry, check out the fins on this betta" ::)

[yippy]

Pings very active - always darting about and showing off - he is a great fish Rod, so I forgive you for conning me !!!!

Kerry ;)

[Multiclone]

Drool, droool, droooooooool. Poor Eve how could you be so heartless.

Geoff

[yippy]

Too bad Geoff - you had your chance - and BLEW IT !!!!!!!!

Heres Ping eating his worms behind the ruin- he likes to eat in private :-[

Kerry_No Alencers For The Bush man :D

[ecc.oldlady]

The funeral went well, with a huge attendance. All the local birds appeared. The mourning is now in progress with the dulling of the senses with easter egg chocolate instead of alcohol.

Thanks for your sympathies

Michelle

I only hope the dogs dont dig it up and eat ti :puke:

[yippy]

sad Michelle - are you having a proper WAKE???? Nice wine and nibblies???? Gotta let the poor bugger go out in style ???

Kerry :'(

[ecc.oldlady]

No time for wine and nibbles.

Writing instructions for the family of carers left behind looking after my husband and 2 other children. Plenty to think of. :bounce: :bounce:

Heading to K.L. tommorrow with my 11yr old daughter to visit old friends. There will be plenty of wine and nibbles then so I have to stay dry before I get there, or I will be permanantly intoxicated from now for 2 weeks. :bounce2: :bounce2:

very exciting :bounce: :bounce2:

Michelle

[yippy]

good on you Michelle - have one for me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When you get back we'll go fishnapping ;D

Kerry

[April]

Michelle if you want to go see Rods fish..thats fine..but better hurry..as hes got loads of boxes ready to fill up and ship all his offspring to canada. maybe he will spare one..
and... go ahead and "call" him or even "phone" him. ok we dont ring..in canada.. we call or phone. ok..well...im just trying to scare you. lol. i have his fish already..but id take more in a heart beat.

[ecc.oldlady]

I can't wait. :bounce2: :bounce2:No time for wake now. my friend doesn't mind a wine :balloon: :drummer: :guitarist: :jester: :juggle: :puke: :sick: :sleep: :singer:(we will give her a great Proper send off I'm sure)

Michelle

[Multiclone]

Have a nice trip you could have bought your fish here I would have looked after them ;) ;D.
Don't believe a word of what Kerry says.

Geoff

[yippy]

Sure geoff- i know plenty of plans - way beyond your wildest dreams re fishnappin'

LOL

kerry

[ping]

Kerry, i want bigger Castle De Me ;D

Wow Michelle, visit to Rod. I want too ;D.
Better get some before Pril took em all ;D

Ronny

[yippy]

Aint 25 litres big enough for you Ping? Maybe Ill chuck Brutie in there and you can have his 4 foot. :o

kerry :D

[ping]

LOL Kerry, I would love his tank but i dont want to mess up with the wrong guy ;D.
Too risky to mess up with that boy ;D. I rather let him enjoy his tank. What about chuck your discus in Castle De Me ? ;D And let me get the discus tank ? ;D

Ronny :P

[Rod]

twisted your rubber arm right Kerry?! ;D

[yippy]

Well Rodney - that WAS the first thing you said when i walked into Wet Petz

"Like the shop Kerry? Check out the fins on this betta"

OK my arm is rather floppy when it comes to bettas. ::)

Lucky my arm is rubber - Im doing so many water changes on this mammoth spawn of THREE turqs - a real arm would be pretty sore by now :scared:

Kerry :o

[yippy]

Heres Bruties kids house - Castle De Sev - im keeping him -cheeky little bugger - getting just like dad. This castle will do him for a while - then ill have to build a bigger castle ! ;D never again will I go through 500 red devil kids - but i wanted to keep one of my grandkids !!!!

Kerry 8)

[Multiclone]

Hey Rod! 4 days off over Easter and you're taking a sickie today sounds a bit suss to me, but I wont tell anyone. ;)

Geoff

[yippy]

Poor Rod has flu :sick: ive already sussed him out Geoff - see Im one jump ahead of you - lol ;)

Hows Nob & Prils eggs?

Kerry

[Multiclone]

I forgot to post these following pics. I have split the pair of PB (murderers) up, I placed the male with a good fertile SS and the female with eve's mate a BD.
The following is the PB and SS

Geoff

[Multiclone]

Since then I have had to take him out. He is too aggressive. This morning- FRY - I think this is my biggest spawn at least 200.

[Multiclone]

Another

[Multiclone]

Kerry,
Nobby and Pril still have their eggs. There is about 12 hrs difference between previous post and theirs but I think they aren't fertile. If they are to hatch it will be tonight.

Geoff

[Rod]

wow Geoff, great looking spawn :) Good luck with the fry.

[yippy]

Those darn murderers - need a good whipping :whip:

Kerry

[rickk]

Hi All,

Thought I'd pop in and say hello, WOW Aussie No. 3, way to go Aussie's.

Been a bit slack with posting, busy with work and fish

Have a great day

Rick

[yippy]

Well ok Rick- we'll let you off the hook - but dont think youre getting off that easy - lol

pop in more often- us aussies have alot of yappin to catch up :gossip:

Kerry :)

[rickk]

HI Kerry,

I'll do that, I have a heap of catching up to do.

Rick

[yippy]

Well i understand - overworked and overfished - lol ;D

We need our aussie chat night going again - so we'll all have to try and work out a time soon. :singer:

Hows the fish going?

Kerry

[rickk]

Hi Kerry,

Been flicking through the forum, yes the Aussie chat night sounds good,

Fish are doing great.

Rick

[yippy]

My HUGE spawn ate some black worms tonight - is it ok for them???? I fed some to mum and dad and the MASSIVES really went for them. But wondering if its ok for fry to eat them ??? 3 weeks old.

Kerry :-\

[rickk]

Hi Kerry,

Absolutly, this is a good sign, watch them grow now

Rick

[yippy]

Thanks Rick - theyre eating all the same food as mum and now - Ill post some fresh pics of them tomorrow. ;D

Kerry

[yippy]

heres some pics of the HUGE spawn - enjoying their family meal!!!!

dunno what im gonna do with them all ???

Kerry

[yippy]

eating eeryhting now - getting big - just over 3 weeks old now. ;D

[yippy]

i need an 8 foot grow out tank :o

[yippy]

the food bill is astronomical >:( But jeez these turqs are great parents -truly in love :-*

[yippy]

Cary - my bd :)

[yippy]

cary and rod :)

[yippy]

Al ;D

[yippy]

these are for brew ;D

[ping]

Hey, is Cary going out with Rod ??? ;D

[yippy]

sorry about the muck on the glass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

heres jack - another of rods home breds. ;D

lookin good jack !!!!

[yippy]

Luckys had an afair with with big lumpy Pidge - he she is guarding eggs - on plant leave and glass lol ::)

[yippy]

Luckys eggs ::)

[yippy]

pidge is the big lump - nice natured tho :)

[yippy]

Remember these Rod, :D

[yippy]

This is Rod ;D

now Rod, between the plugs with your goldens and alencers - i think its time to cough up Jezebels sister!!!!!!

kerry ;D

[yippy]

Ping, cary and rod arent a couple - they dumbfounded by he hanky panky going on in the corner with Lucky and Pidge - here is carys true love - Cherub :-*

kerry ;)

[April]

Al the alencer is very nice ...but im almost positive it was meant to be in canada.

[yippy]

::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

sure Pril - theyre aussies- have to stay here. :P

[Multiclone]

Good, Al can come up and keep Eve company I am about to seperate her from her fry. So Kerry I can expect a visit with plastic bag in hand ;D

Geoff

[ozone]

Just thought that I would say hi I am also from oz.
I have a couple of pairs of discus and enjoy taking care of them. :-*.

It's a good msg board, I like it.

[April]

Heh Rick...glad to see you have resurfaced. ok...so you know where youve been..but that didnt help us..as far as we could tell..you vanished off the earth..swallowed by a big shark or somethin. glad your still playin with the fishies. dont be a stranger.
Ozone. glad you popped in. keep on popping in..their all goofy around here..good fun..
why dont you aussies book a chat night for first monday or whaterver day of each month or somethin..so everyone knows..and its not every week. besides..your cold and blustery winter is setting in soon...brrrrrrrrrrr. you may need to stay in and yabber.

[yippy]

Theres only one goofy person around here - and that person isnt an Aussie - but Im not mentioning any names. :-X

Our cold and blustery winters are alot warmer than a Canuk summmer - lol - so we dont need to stay inside and yabber - we can still bask in the sun etc. :P

Good to see you pop in Ozone - hang around and show us some of your :fish:

Geoff, youre starting to learn bad habits off Pril - trying to clean eveyone out of their fish :spank:

i may pop up on Sunday if youre not doing anything - I WILL bring a bucket - for Eve. :P Mum wants to come up and see your greenhouses - so ill just stay in the fishroom while your down the hill and "take a few pics" ;)

Kerry

[rickk]

Hi April,

Yes I'm a baaaaad boy, got all consumed in work and got out of the habit of checking in with you guys. It's no excuse I know and you can kick my butt, ( this invite is only for April guys, by the time it hits me from Canada it shouldn't hurt to much),

I spent a fair bit of time working in Singapore for the last 3 months of last year and had to go back once so far this year, On top of that my wife Sandra has had a operation which put her out of action for 6 weeks ( she has recovered well) so the last 6 months has been very hetic.

Everything is back to normal now and I'm looking forward to catching up with everyone.

I think a chat night would be great, first Monday of the month sounds Great.

Anyway take care April, Talk soon


Rick

[rickk]

Welcome Ozone, Great bunch of people hang around here, pop in some more.

Rick

[yippy]

Hope alls ok now Rick.

Heres an update on the massive spawn ;D

Being fed discus mix, brine shrimp, bloodworm and blackworms for dessert after evening meal - theyre good little eaters - rush up to the glass now. Still gotta find an 8 foot to raise them in.

Kerry :)

[yippy]

with mum and dad :)

[yippy]

those white dots are just food - id just fed them :)

[yippy]

Dont even bother asking , Geoff - youre not getting your hands on this one - geez Jacks turning out nice - well he is one of Rods home breds ;D

male or female Pril ::)

[yippy]

Rod and Cary - is Rodney male or female Pril ???

Kerry

[yippy]

Bruties kids castle - did some redecorating - doing Bruties too at the moment - just to let him some fun trashing it again. ::)

Kerry

AND GEOFF, I NEVER FELL OFF A HORSE ONTO MY HEAD :spank:

Im pushin you down the hill covered in water and into the electric fence tomorrow :D

[yippy]

I had the 50/50 light on it - but ive changed it to just the 100% actinic - look more palatial :)

Here it is with just the 50/50

Kerry

[ozarowana]

Some fish I'm trying to grow out
They're RSG X SS (I think)

[ozarowana]

Only a few of them have turned out ok

[yippy]

Nice lookin little guys :)

looks like theyre starting to colour up nice - keep us posted and HANG TEN 8) - we need backup us Aussies - theres a Canuk trying to clean us out of all our fish ;D

hey- join in the Aussie chat session - dunno which night yet - but keep your eye on this space - bit hard all fitting in together with work fish etc - but we used to do it every Monday night - it was GR8 fun. so hang in here - WE'LL GET IT IT ORGANISED AGAIN - SOMEHOW. :thumbsup:

And that inlcudes you Mr Coleman ;D

[Multiclone]

Kerry,
Just seperated Eve from her fry. I estimated 150. Guess what 210, couldn't believe it :o ;D.

Geoff

[Mattzilla]

geoff, interested in selling some???

let me know...i'm serious

matt

[yippy]

First in best dressed - Im headed out there today - with a large bucket - ill send you come Matt ;D

Serious tho, they should be nice fish - wow 210 Geoff - shes certainly fertile :o

Kerry

[yippy]

Hi guys - went 'home' again today - lol

Out to Geoffs. ;D Thanks for having us again guys - Brian loved it. :D

Ive posted all the pics over at cichlids - im too tired from walking up the hill to repost here. Heres the link

http://www.simplycichlids.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=1586;sta rt=0


And Geoff, i havent been teasing the Venus Fly Trap - well ??? ONCE i did - just to make sure he was ok and still trappin - ive named him Geoff - so now I have Geoff the VFT - hes real happy out in his bowl of RO water on the sunny patio. Ok one pic of Geoff the VFT - rest are on the link.

Kerry

[Multiclone]

Just a couple of pics. We had the door off of the fishroom today so I took a pic.

[Multiclone]

Have nearly finished our quarrantine tanks. We are going to relieve Rod of some of his Mandarin Passions and Whites this weekend.

Geoff

[Mattzilla]

jelous doesn't even come close to what i am feeling!!!!

one day i'll have a set up like that...one day

looks awesome mate

[Multiclone]

Thanks Matt,
It has been a long slow grind with plenty of mistakes made and somethings I would change with our setup, but we are moving in the right direction.
We have just ordered 2- 1,500 litre fry grow out tanks 1.6 x 1.6 x 1.2 metres it will be interesting to see how it turns out. Also it is time for us to split the system in 2 (a) breeding (c) growing on - harder water and higher ph etc.
One other thing we are looking at is solar heating. On doing some figures we estimate we can become totally self efficient with heating for around 2K, our power bill last quarter was $1.700 and it will only get worse heading into winter. I will post as we progress.

Geoff