Is it a Willischwartzi??

[SAIGON]

Hello,

Here is the discus that I think it may be a Willischwartzi.

What do you think about it?

https://www.revela2.com/media/fotos2/16227/186425-3548_max.jpg

https://www.revela2.com/media/fotos2/16227/186428-5791_max.jpg


Thank you

[fishfarm]

Willischwartzi is a name Axelrod came up with for some of the yellower colored heckels. Nice fish, They are all heckels regardless of the color morph.

[ozone]

Nice fish, real healthy looking and it does appear to have a yellow base colour.

[Fishin dude]

Very Sweet!
Definitely not a "Blue Face".....Willie Heckel :hat:

[Jorge las Heras]

Fishin dude: the true Willischwartzi is not a blue-headed discus.

The fish described by Warren E. Burguess (1981) as S. discus willischwartzi is thought to be a natural cross between S. aequifasciatus axelrodi and S. discus, that lives in Abacaxis and Madeira rivers.

It is basically a Heckel with a yellow base colour, and it is also known as "ananas discus" or "pineapple discus".

Salu2 :D

[Fishin dude]

Symphysodon aequifasciata Ortega & Vari, 1986
Symphysodon discus var. aequifasciata Pellegrin, 1904; (valid as)
Symphysodon aequifasciata axelrodi Schultz, 1960; (synonym)
Symphysodon aequifasciata haraldi Schultz, 1960; (synonym)


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Symphysodon discus Heckel, 1840
S. d. willischwartzi Burgess, 1981

Jorge,
When I said "Not a Blue Face", I meant it had to be a Willischwartzi....I have one adult now....looking for the "Blue Face"......got any??
:funny:

Heeeee...heeee.... ;D

They're all gorgeous! Tan bonitas las pescadas! Nonetheless...

[wildthing]

It should NOT have its own name ( williswartzi) because it is not a seperate species. nor is Axlerodi nor any of them...those names IMO just reflect the arrogance & egos of the people naming them and they have no scientific validity at all. Linnaean methods for identifying are hundreds of years obsolete & usually wrong
What you have there is a heckel.
btw , the Brazilian or Portuguese for Pineapple is Abacaxis, where many of the 'yellower' heckels are found, as are many other heckels and intermorphs, so the name refers to the river & not the color of the fish...hence confusion.......the river was so named because there used to be pineapple planatations there, it is a Madeira tributary. here many blue and heckel discus frequently interbreed.
These are no more different species than a person with red hair & freckles is a different species from a person with brown hair & no freckles.
Don;t worry about the name of the fish, worry about the fish ( & yours is a pretty one)

David

[fishfarm]

:thumbsup: Mr Webber!

[Fishin dude]

Ken,I like this williswartzi, but is it a blueface? Looks like a "green gill plater" to me :D

[brewmaster15]

A Rose is still a Rose by any other name! :)

Nice Heckel Saigon!
-al


by the way those Sturbai Cories? any spawning? :)

[António Vitor]

Ananás is how we call to any Pineapple fruit (at least in Portugal), Abacaxis is something very brazilian.
we use the name abacaxis for a smaller variety of pineapple nonetheless...
(I think it's a new word from brazil)

btw the portuguese is similar to spanish...but not identical...
like the french is not identical to the spanish...
:)

"Tan bonitas las pescadas!"

should be something like:
Pescarias tão bonitas (this not even sounds right...)
;)

"A pesca que apanhastes é bem bonita!"
Yes, this is better!

Hope you didn't mind for this portuguese lesson Fry girl...
:)

Regards from Portugal!
António Vitor

Claro que sí, Señor Vitor! ;)

8) Angie 8)

Addendum:

Ooops! :-X Me culpa. 8)

[António Vitor]

Claro que sim, senhor Vitor!
;D

Regards from Portugal!
António Vitor

[wildthing]

Churchill said of the USA & England that we are

" two people separated by a common language"

The same can be said for Brazilian Portuguese & Portuguese Portuguese.

Old World Vs New World.

it is a fascinating study.

:)

Hey David, (You rock with history. Way to go!) ;D

I think I can do better (or assimilate the same quote):

"We are the same people. It is the sun and moon that tints our skins. It is our ignorance to understand that."

;)

**Angie**

António: Did I drop the "R" in your surname? Ooops! :-X

[António Vitor]

António: Did I drop the "R" in your surname? Ooops!

No problem Fry girl!
;)

[popeye]

Nice discus Saigon.

I well see it early..next month, may be, I will travel to canary island to meet you.

Hey Jorge, nice to meet you here!.

Best regards,

[Rod]

Great looking discus.

[Sketchy]

...well, Dave Webber impresses me with his knowledge of the Amazon River system and of Discus again!
...Brazilian Portuguese and European Portuguese are like American English and British English. In the USA it is an elevator, in Great Britian it is a "lift". Spanish and Portuguese are distinctly different languages. The most apparent similiarity would be that Portuguese is much more formal, almost like speaking Spanish in the "vosotros" tense. The difference can be very subtle at times and very clear at others.


...e eu conheco os dois...