newie help

[maerki1926]

had 12 juvie high fin reds in 30 gal seasoned tank. lost four two were runts and 1and a half inchs.all 4 started
swimming nose down.amon 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 20 ph 6.4 temp 85 30% water change daily beef heart brine shrimp live

[Carol_Roberts]

Too little information to hazard a guess. How long did you have them. When did they get sick? What was water change regimen, food, etc.

[billeagan]

Nitrite/ammonia/nitrate readings?

[Bobar57]

We need more info in order to help you.:confused:

[dandestroy]

had 12 juvie high fin reds in 30 gal seasoned tank. lost four two were runts and 1and a half inchs.all 4 started
swimming nose down.amon 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 20 ph 6.4 temp 85 30% water change daily beef heart brine shrimp live

Seems like nitrate are way high, specially if your doing daily WC, unless I'm missing something here.

[Bainbridge Mike]

I know this may seem obvious, but unless the fish are really, really small, a 30 gallon tank is not big enough. With a 12 fish in that tank, parasites and disease --or just poor water conditions--can get out of hand quickly. With a larger tank, you have more margin for error and you and the fish will be happier.

Mike

[Dissident]

Do you age your water? Or is it right from the tap? Do you use and water coditioner? Have you added new fish/plantes/etc.? Did you recently do a major filter-cleaning?

[Kindredspirit]

With a larger tank, you have more margin for error and you and the fish will be happier.

Mike



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[Alight]

Is this a bare bottom tank?

With nitrates at 20, you are not doing enough water changes to house 12 Juvies in a 30 gallon tank.

You would need to do at least 50% twice a day in a bare bottom tank that size.

The most I put in a 30 to grow for even a short time, even when they are only 1.5 inches would be 10, and then I'd change 75% daily. Once they got to be 2.2.5 inches, then only 5 or 6 in a 30.

For 12, to grow them out properly, you need at least a 75 if not a 90 gallon tank.

For the 8 remaining, at least a 55 gallon tank.