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happygirl65
02-13-2008, 05:37 PM
Can you (or have you) housed cherry shrimp with discus?

judy
02-13-2008, 07:10 PM
they made a very nice snack....

FatFutures
02-13-2008, 07:12 PM
Hehehe

That's what I was thinking!

happygirl65
02-13-2008, 07:28 PM
darn it! lol

crazie.eddie
02-14-2008, 12:04 AM
Yep, my discus and angels LOVE the RCS I put in there. I breed RCS and any ones I find in my filter, I throw in my discus tank.

Apistomaster
02-16-2008, 03:31 PM
I added over 100 RCS to my Heckel tank which is planted and the shrimp did exist in ever reducing numbers for quite awhile. Ultimately, their reproductive rates just couldn't compensate for losses caused by predation and down the wet/dry filter overflow. I have a fly screen strainer before the overflow but this did nothing for the larval shrimp. They are lost faster than they can grow large enough to be kept out of the overflow.
Fun experiment and they did make good snacks.

specialsuperK
02-16-2008, 04:33 PM
I thought I was going to add a dozen to my juvinile tank, Yea that lasted 15 minutes.:D

Gordon C. Snelling
02-17-2008, 11:33 AM
I have a few in a tank of rather large WC blues. So far they are doing well and reproducing. The fish show very little obvious interest in the shrimp, but when I am not looking who knows as they eat like starved wolves at feeding time.

Eyal
02-19-2008, 05:07 PM
I have hundreds of cherry shrimp and Malayan shrimp in my 120 gal planted tank with discus fish cories tetra's rainbow fish growing together in perfect harmony:angel:

mirmar
02-20-2008, 07:23 AM
Why are there no shrimps from south america? I'm sure they live there?

Apistomaster
02-21-2008, 11:16 AM
Why are there no shrimps from south america? I'm sure they live there?

Who said their were no fresh water shrimp in SA waters? There are hundreds of species.
Some are small and others are almost the size of a small lobster.

happygirl65
02-21-2008, 11:21 AM
I guess I can try it...:) If they end up being a snack later on....so be it. Perhaps if I give them some caves to hide in they will have a fighting chance. :)

bonifacelan
02-21-2008, 12:12 PM
shrimp is no no to discus tank unless you have large heavily planted tank where shrimp can hide. but survival rate is still low.

happygirl65
02-21-2008, 12:19 PM
Well it will be a 90 gal fairly heavily planted tank, but I see what you are saying. Shrimp that I put in with my angels never lasted regardless of numerous hiding places. So I should know better.

But I have a $50 credit coming at the LFS and was hoping to get something that I at least wanted :) The only other thing I saw that they have (that I am interested in for this tank) are neon tetras (which could also become a snack) and BN plecos. Maybe I should just get more plecos instead. :) I have 3 already....but will probably want at least that many more for the 90.

White Worm
02-21-2008, 02:02 PM
Neons could become a snack but they are also not suited for discus temps. Go with cardinals or get some sterbai. Cards are more suited for the temps and the sterbai are great little scavengers. I too would like to get some ch shrimp but it will be for my planted tank without discus.

Apistomaster
02-22-2008, 09:46 AM
The common American Glass Shrimp do fine with Discus. They just won't be able to continue producing young that survive. To raise them requires a special set up. I have raised many hundreds of Glass shrimp in ten gallon tanks.
I place the gravid females in a net hung in an established ten gal tank and remove the females that have released their young.
Then I feed the apparently empty tank bbs every day and a few weeks later you will begin to see hundreds of tiny shrimp.

happygirl65
02-22-2008, 11:42 AM
Wow! What an amazing process! :)
Is the glass shrimp the same as a ghost shrimp?

tcyiu
02-22-2008, 12:47 PM
Not sure what I have but the shrimp is medium size and semi transparent. The pair have spawned quite few times. You can see the fry/ (correct term?) jittering around. The cardinals were having a grand old time chomping down the babies. But sadly, this really prolific female died.

I don't have a planted aquarium, but the shrimp pre-dated the discus. So the fish were accustomed to seeing the shrimp - not as food. Also, the discus are fed live worms everyday, which may also dampen their desire to snack on the shrimp.

I went to the LFS last week to pick up some more, but the guy said that my 83deg water would cook the shrimp. Hmmm. I guesss I never thought about the suitability of hi temps.

Any thoughts on temp suitability and which shrimp species. I don't seem to have many choices of shrimp.

Tim

judy
02-22-2008, 02:20 PM
I have a couple of flower or bamboo shrimp... they take the warmer temps fine, and they're filter feeders-- and they're nice and big-- two inches or so. You'll see them occasionally perched on a piece of driftwood or a plant in the current area, fanning frantically to get micro-food.
(I had more, she muttered darkly, but the clown loaches-- now banished elsewhere-- ate 'em.)

mirmar
02-23-2008, 07:54 AM
Who said their were no fresh water shrimp in SA waters? There are hundreds of species.
Some are small and others are almost the size of a small lobster.

Sure they live there, it's the main food for wild discus.
But (here) you can't find them in the shops, why?
Plenty of asian shrimps, but not from south america.

Apistomaster
02-23-2008, 12:34 PM
Wow! What an amazing process! :)
Is the glass shrimp the same as a ghost shrimp?
The fresh water one is and they can live for up to 18 months in water temps of 84*F.
!8 months from hatching to death. Those you buy will vary in age and will live different length of time. If any specimen is opaque, do not buy it. It is a sick shrimp that is about to die. Not only have I kept them with my Discus but even with my Dwarf Pike Cichlids, Crenicichla regani. Now that surprised me.
Ghost Glass Shrimp are far more out going than the Amano Shrimp which tends to be much more secretive but they do not eat very much algae; they are primarily carnivorous.

If you are interested in other shrimp available in the US from India and SE Asia, see www.franksaquarium.com
Frank is a stand up guy to do business with.
There are also some African filter feeding shrimp sometimes available.
Only rarely are any true SA shrimp imported.
Aqualog published a nice but slim volume on keeping shrimp and their relatives.
I have raised dwarf crayfish, American Ghost Glass shrimp and Cherry Shrimp.
I failed with raising my bumblebee shrimp which were intended as a practice run before laying out big bucks for the Crystal Red mutation.
Crystal reds have equal sized alternating red and white bands. Quality strains can easily cost $10 each. They are no larger than red cherry shrimp.

happygirl65
03-04-2008, 12:09 PM
awesome selection of shrimp at Franks! Thanks!