Acclimation

[nickmcmechan]

My breeding pair of Discus arrive tomoroow (Thursday).

Normally for fish that are couriered (is that a word? - delivered by courier!) to me I use the following technique to acclimatise


Perform 50% water change at least 4 hours before arrival
Switch off room lights as well as tank lights
Open Box
Float bag
Open bag after 15 mins
Put 1/2 cup of water in bag - continue this every 5 mins until bag full of water
Pour half of water from bag to bucket - continue until bucket full enough for fish
Set up siphon to drip water in to bucket over 1/2 hour to 1 hour until bucket is full
Pour bucket, fish and all straight into tank (to avoid use of net)


Is this method suitable for Discus or would you recommend alternative techniques?

[KDodds]

I don't drip acclimate FW fish. For SW fish, I open the bag and clip the top to a bucket (bag inside bucket). I punch a few holes in the bag at the waterline, then start drip acclimation. Bag water will flow out the holes into the bucket as the bag fills, a real no brainer, hands off acclimation process. Once the bucket is filled to the bag's waterling, bag parms will be close enough to add the fish. IME, temperature is the very least important factor of acclimation.

[poconogal]

I only acclimate for as long as it takes temps to match. I add a tiny bit of Stress Guard (not Stress Coat) by Seachem to the bag in the meantime. It is a mild antiseptic and removes ammonia as well. I test the bag PH to make sure that it's lower than my tank and it is always is. Once temps match, I do the grab and plop method, either by netting the fish and plopping it in the tank or by grabbing the fish in my hands and plopping it into the tank. Last two I received I used my hands. Much much better than a net, no scratches, etc. and it was very easy. I know many Discus keepers do the grab and plop method, as long as tank PH is higher than bag water. I do not put any bag water into the tank, ever.

Using this method I've found that the Discus don't even notice they've been moved!

[nickmcmechan]

:sleeping3: Wow, what a night.

The courier was due here between 5 and 8pm. However, due to a big hold up, apparently down to a false address, they had a big delay and arrived with my new fish at Midnight. :shocked2:

It's a family run business who specialise in Tropical Fish transportation and they keep going until they deliver - lucky for me; if it was one of the big companies they would have just delivered in the morning instead!!!

So, spent until 2am last night acclimatising the fish and they seemed happy when they went in the tank. :thumbsup:

Couldn't sleep this morning so got up at 7.30am to check them. They seem to be sticking closely together. For some reason they are positioning themselves directly into the filter flow which is pushing them to a slightly odd angle. When I first saw it I thought it was headstanding, but then the angles kept changing as hey swam and in each rest position.:coffee:

Anyway, couple of questions!!! :D

1. The tank lights are timed to come on at 2pm. This will be 12 hours after they were introduced to the tank, assume this is OK to just let go ahead?

2. Feeding. In your experience how long is it until they will happily take their first feed?

3. First water change. How long should I hold off for. Planning on doing a small change today and a 50-60% change tomorrow?

4. Anything else I should keep an eye on?

PS just checked NH4 and NO2, both Zero.

[mikel]

I find that Discus fish likes dim light, or just natural light. So if your tank has regular ambient light during the day, i would skip the aquarium light on the first day and night. I would see if they want to eat by dropping small amount of food. If nobody seem interested, I would net out all the debris. Water changes???? Might as well start getting them used to it from day one. If your water change regiment is sound, and you use water conditioners. I dont see why you would worry about that.

Quite frankly, you seem to have taken so much trouble about it (a testament to your love of the fish, but way too coddling for me). When I got my fish from Kenny, I floated the bag for 30 minutes (the water was way too cold, as there was a flight delay) without opening the bag. Then, once the water got close, I open the bag, immediately scoop the 4.5 inch discus out with my hand, look at it, said hi, and plop into the quarantine tank...simple (it started eating after only about 20 minutes... mike:)

[Eddie]

Sucks to hear about the delay, I know all about it. That is a different story altogether. Lets just say my fish spent the night at the connecting airport and I spent the night at the arriving airport!

Okay....

1. The tank lights are timed to come on at 2pm. This will be 12 hours after they were introduced to the tank, assume this is OK to just let go ahead?

Some people wait a day or 2 before turning on the lights. I usually gauge it by the fishes attitude. If they are huddling and hiding and not venturing around, I will not turn on the lights. I make sure they are comfortable and swiming around the tank before turning the lights on.

2. Feeding. In your experience how long is it until they will happily take their first feed?

I've fed fish a few hours after arrival, really depends on how long they were in transit. You can usually try to feed the next day as the best option. I like to turn the heat up to 88-90F and by morning they usually take a nice round of Frozen Blood Worms. I do not feed FBW except for the first or second feed after arrival. This will get their metabolism going.

3. First water change. How long should I hold off for. Planning on doing a small change today and a 50-60% change tomorrow?

Depends on the size of the tank. If your levels are good as you mentioned, I'd hold off a day or 2 before the WC. Let them get relaxed.

4. Anything else I should keep an eye on?

Yes, keep an eye out for any possible outbreak of infection. Fish in transit get well stressed and this make them vulnerable to any and everything thats in the water or anything they already have that may start to overwhelm them.

HTH,

Eddie

[dpt8]

I think most breeders and people that handle a lot of discus agree with Mike that once you have floated the bags to get the same temp, they open the bags, gently slide the fish out with their hands and place them in th tank.. I do that.. Dripping the fish can really burn them with ammonia. As soon as the air hits the water, that turns to ammonia. Fish in the bags for any length of time foul that bag water, which lowers the ph and makes it very toxic. Ph of tank higher and good quality water so fish are better off. Not just MO but others as we discussed this at one of our NE discus meetings. Many posts on this as well.

[Mr Wild]

This thread is very interesting, I thought the slow acclimation method was more popular. I just received 2 adults after 24 hr travel, I opened the bag immediately then trickled tank water straight into the box they came in until it was full, had an airstone going slowly the whole time then after an hour put them into their tank. Might this have damaged them in anyway? Kath

[Eddie]

I think everybody has their own way of acclimating fish. I do the way I always I have always done it since I was a kid and never lost a fish. :D

Eddie

[Adam Robinson]

Eddie please tell us what your process is....seems to be a time tested and proven technic

[Eddie]

Eddie please tell us what your process is....seems to be a time tested and proven technic

Easy easy. Float the bags, open the tops, roll the bag down a few times, wait 10 min, scoop 1/4 cup of tank water and add it to the bag. Do this every 5 min until the bag is fairly full, lift the bag out enough to empty most of the water out into a bucket, repeat the process of adding 1/4 cup of water until the bag is full again and then net the fish out and drop him in the tank. With discus I grab them with my hands and then place them in the tank. I'm sure this method seems so elementary but everything goes back to the basics. LOL

Maybe I've just been lucky for the past 24 years, I don't know. :D

Eddie

[MSD]

I usually just want to get them out of the toxic brew they have been in for over 12 hours so if the bags are still nice and warm grab, empty, then plop. My PH is matched with the keepers I buy from and on the acid side so that isn't a factor. If they are kept at over 8 PH then I would cut the bag, add a cup of water, then wait 15 mins and do the procedure. I open the bags (usually tripled bagged) pour the water into a sink near the tank, then when the bag is empty let the fish slip into the waiting tank. In all my years with reef tanks and discus I have not lost a single animal using this method. Only large temp or PH changes can cause a problem and my priority is to get the fish out of the shipping water as fast as safely possible.

[nickmcmechan]

wait 10 min, scoop 1/4 cup of tank water and add it to the bag. Do this every 5 min until the bag is fairly full, lift the bag out enough to empty most of the water out into a bucket, repeat the process of adding 1/4 cup of water until the bag is full again and then net the fish out and drop him in the tank.

So, I suppose using the bucket is basically the same except using larger volumes of water?

The objective of my method is that by the time the fish go in we have slowly adjusted to something like 98% tank to 2% original water over a period of 1 to 1 1/2 hours.

Anyways, they look brighter than earlier, they are still hiding in the corner and refused BW as well as BH. The one that looked like it was headstanding at 30 deg this morning has started looking like that again when resting...not sure if its trying to hide or if I should take action???

[Eddie]

Is your tank Barebottom?

Eddie

[nickmcmechan]

Is your tank Barebottom?

Eddie

Hi Eddie, no its heavily planted, sand substrate...the supplier raises them in BB though

[Eddie]

Hi Eddie, no its heavily planted, sand substrate...the supplier raises them in BB though

Oh okay, well I hope it gets better. I have only dealt with head standers from discus eating too much (pigs). LOL

Best of luck,

Eddie

[nickmcmechan]

thanks eddie,

not sure if its headstanding or hiding, just poked my head round the door and they're both doing it now!

[Eddie]

thanks eddie,

not sure if its headstanding or hiding, just poked my head round the door and they're both doing it now!

They are probably just frightened. I'd give them a few days and if they continue to do it, then maybe something might be up.

Eddie

[poconogal]

I've had new Discus do that. They sort of squash themselves together and point downward while "fluttering" their fins if you come near or if they see you looking at them. They're only been frightened. I've had a few do that for the whole time they were in QT and then immediately stop once in the main tank with others. I'd just carefully observe and give them some time.

[TankWatcher]

Just want to clear one thing here as it might not be clear...the whole time that the fish is in the bag it's producing ammonia. CO2 is building up also, dropping the pH. This keeps the ammonia ionized as NH4/ammonium. So while the water is total crap, it's not toxic.

Once that bag is opened back up, the CO2 starts gassing off, which allows the pH to raise back and the ammonium/NH4 to converts back to NH3/ammonia and becomes toxic.

This ammonia is capable of burning the gills, fins and body of the fish.

The fish has also built up a large amount of NH3 within its system that it hasn't been able to get rid of while in the bag, so it's poisioning itself.

The fish should be out of that water ASAP and dripping isn't the way to go

Graham, does this also apply for fish that have only been bagged for say a 10-20 minute drive home from LFS, or just for fish that have been bagged for an extended time during transit?

[poconogal]

Easy easy. Float the bags, open the tops, roll the bag down a few times, wait 10 min, scoop 1/4 cup of tank water and add it to the bag. Do this every 5 min until the bag is fairly full, lift the bag out enough to empty most of the water out into a bucket, repeat the process of adding 1/4 cup of water until the bag is full again and then net the fish out and drop him in the tank. With discus I grab them with my hands and then place them in the tank. I'm sure this method seems so elementary but everything goes back to the basics. LOL

Maybe I've just been lucky for the past 24 years, I don't know. :D

Eddie
That's the way I always did it but then as I read about more and more Discus keepers doing the grab and plop, many who are also very experienced, I decided to try it myself. Having compared the 2 methods, grab and plop is certainly easier, but also when the Discus go in they seem more relaxed than when I did the floating bag/water exchange method. I've never lost a fish to either method.

[Eddie]

That's the way I always did it but then as I read about more and more Discus keepers doing the grab and plop, many who are also very experienced, I decided to try it myself. Having compared the 2 methods, grab and plop is certainly easier, but also when the Discus go in they seem more relaxed than when I did the floating bag/water exchange method. I've never lost a fish to either method.

Yeah, my last group from Forrest were in the tank, lights on and eating within 10 minutes. LOL

Eddie

[Scribbles]

Yeah, my last group from Forrest were in the tank, lights on and eating within 10 minutes. LOL

Eddie

Ditto with my discus from Hans.

Chris

[Eddie]

Ditto with my discus from Hans.

Chris

I'm sure it had something to do with the quality. My fish were in transport for almost 24 hours. :D

Eddie

[poconogal]

Of course, we all know that Forrest has excellent quality, Eddie!

[Eddie]

Of course, we all know that Forrest has excellent quality, Eddie!

And Hans too! ;)

Eddie

[Scribbles]

I had never heard of the drop and plop method until I found SD. Used it on my shipment from Hans that flew coast to coast and they settled right in. They looked like they had never travelled at all. Makes sence though when you think about the amonia. Lots of good info/people on SD.

Chris

[ShinShin]

Drop and plop is the only thing I do when receiving fish. All the rituals I had done in the past were time consuming and apparenty unneeded because my fish do well. Another thing to consider is that the water in the bag in acidic from metabolic functions and if you add tank water of a higher pH to the acidic bag water, the pH rises and the ammonium (less toxic to fish) converts back to ammonia which is toxic to fish.

I've dropped and plopped literally hundreds of discus without a loss, some in the bags for 48 hrs.

Mat

[Mr Wild]

Well I might just try the open the bag and plop in the next time I get fish then, seems people here have had no problems with it so I will try it too. Saves the time doing the other drip method and if it is bettter for the fish I am with that all the way!

[poconogal]

And Hans too! ;)

Eddie

Someday I'll send you a picture of mine.

[Ed13]

Drop and plop only:bandana:

[poconogal]

Well I might just try the open the bag and plop in the next time I get fish then, seems people here have had no problems with it so I will try it too. Saves the time doing the other drip method and if it is bettter for the fish I am with that all the way!
The first time I did it I was a nerous wreck, after all, it goes against everything written and taught about putting a new fish in a tank! But after I did it that first time and saw the difference in the fish, no way would I do it any other way now.

[TankWatcher]

Thanks the answer Graham. So if a short trip from a LFS with a higher pH than mine, I'll drip acclimatise. But, longer & if ever water is semlly, it will be drop & plop.

You never stop learning something new around here

[Eddie]

Thanks the answer Graham. So if a short trip from a LFS with a higher pH than mine, I'll drip acclimatise. But, longer & if ever water is semlly, it will be drop & plop.

You never stop learning something new around here

For sure Robyn, I think my next group I'll try drop and plop. LOL Watch it be the first time something comes up, that'll be my luck.

Eddie

[Wahter]

Drop and plop here too - also works on fancy (and expensive) pl*cos too.



Walter

[Roxanne]

:D.....drop & plop....lol....sounds like a rap song:bandana:....

Well, tell the LFS about it cos they are the ones who always recommend putting a little tank water in the bag at a time..... glad I'm not the only one who has been misled:D

Register me for dropping & plopping in future....:p

[Roxanne]

...whooooooaaaaa.....does that mean we have to catch the fish TO be able to drop and plop?......:confused:

[Mr Wild]

Oh yeah and their fins stick in you a little too! hahahaha

[poconogal]

Oh yeah and their fins stick in you a little too! hahahaha

Yes, they do! (sometimes) LOL!! One of the last two Discus that I received 4 weeks ago is extra large and his dorsal spines were stabbing my fingers... since I decided to use hands instead of a net to put them in QT, and I have small hands! I wouldn't try using hands with a Pleco though... from what I've read getting stuck by one produces a lot of pain!

[Ed13]

...whooooooaaaaa.....does that mean we have to catch the fish TO be able to drop and plop?......:confused:

Not really, I just cut the bag open drain the water by pinching the opening with my hand so that the fish doesn't escape and then drop the fish in the tank. Literally "drop and plop". I've done this with thousands of fish now both fresh and saltwater, even corals too, whenever they are imported.

Once you get the technique down you'll be able to do it really fast and with no harm to the fish.

[poconogal]

Not really, I just cut the bag open drain the water by pinching the opening with my hand so that the fish doesn't escape and then drop the fish in the tank. Literally "drop and plop". I've done this with thousands of fish now both fresh and saltwater, even corals too, whenever they are imported.

Once you get the technique down you'll be able to do it really fast and with no harm to the fish.

Ed, do you drain the water into a bucket? A few people told me they do so that if, while draining the water out the Discus somehow slips out of the bag, it would just plop into the bucket of its own bag water. I thought this was a good idea. I myself just reach into the bag and net, now hand grab the fish and plop, but draining the bag water first, better idea, I think!

[Ed13]

Ed, do you drain the water into a bucket? A few people told me they do so that if, while draining the water out the Discus somehow slips out of the bag, it would just plop into the bucket of its own bag water. I thought this was a good idea. I myself just reach into the bag and net, now hand grab the fish and plop, but draining the bag water first, better idea, I think!
Yup, I use the bucket for small fish, but I don't for discus. I just pinch the opening so that is small enough that the fish can't fit through it and straight to the drain. Takes some technique to do it freehanded though.

[Roxanne]

Well Ed, I'd need a demo of that cos once, I let the water out before the fish and then I couldn't get the fish out cos the bag was like a vacuum seal around the fish:D...so tight he couldn't move his gills...it's hard to get a fish out of a situation like that when you're crying with laughter...

Rox

[nickmcmechan]

Well Ed, I'd need a demo of that cos once

hey, there's a crackin' idea --> post a vid next time you get a new fish!

[TankWatcher]

Well, tell the LFS about it cos they are the ones who always recommend putting a little tank water in the bag at a time..... glad I'm not the only one who has been misledRox, that's probably because this might not apply to fish we get from our LFS. A little further up, Graham told me "drop & plop" applies to fish that have been in the bag a long time so that water quality goes to crap. Coming from lfs with a pH of 8.0 to our home an hour away with a pH of 7.0, then drip them.

See post 30.

[nickmcmechan]

i would agree, i think we've established 2 methods of acclimation here, one for fish you take home within an hour (drip) and one for fish that have been bagged for long periods of time, say more than an hour (drop and plop)?

[Roxanne]

Aye Laddie, sounds like a plan;)

[Don Trinko]

It is strange that discus are not very sensative to water parameters. Many smaller fish are and would likely die with "drop and plop".
My local store has a ph of 7 and mine is 7.6 to 8.0.
I bought 2 albino cory's from the lfs and even after aclimating they were both dead the next day. Yesterday I bought 3 serpa tetras and 3 rasboras. This morning 1 dead rasbora, everyone else fine. All these fish went into existing tanks with live fish. Cardinals are suposed to be sensative, I bought some a year ago and didn't loose any.
In the last 2 years I have bought over 20 discus and none died in the next few days. Don T.

[Ed13]

Well Ed, I'd need a demo of that cos once, I let the water out before the fish and then I couldn't get the fish out cos the bag was like a vacuum seal around the fish:D...so tight he couldn't move his gills...it's hard to get a fish out of a situation like that when you're crying with laughter...

Rox
Rox, while emptying if you keep the fish near the opening of the bag and you have the opening pinched with your fingers that wouldn't happen and gravity would take care of the rest. Nothing spectacular really, but at first the nerves get you a bit. Also the vacuum is created when water and air leave the bag, you need air to enter.

Might be getting some fish soon, so I'll see if can finally learn how to take a video and post it.

[nickmcmechan]

Might be getting some fish soon, so I'll see if can finally learn how to take a video and post it.

would be greatly appreciated ed!

[nickmcmechan]

:sleeping3: Wow, what a night.

The courier was due here between 5 and 8pm. However, due to a big hold up, apparently down to a false address, they had a big delay and arrived with my new fish at Midnight. :shocked2:

It's a family run business who specialise in Tropical Fish transportation and they keep going until they deliver - lucky for me; if it was one of the big companies they would have just delivered in the morning instead!!!

So, spent until 2am last night acclimatising the fish and they seemed happy when they went in the tank. :thumbsup:

Couldn't sleep this morning so got up at 7.30am to check them. They seem to be sticking closely together. For some reason they are positioning themselves directly into the filter flow which is pushing them to a slightly odd angle. When I first saw it I thought it was headstanding, but then the angles kept changing as hey swam and in each rest position.:coffee:

Anyway, couple of questions!!! :D

1. The tank lights are timed to come on at 2pm. This will be 12 hours after they were introduced to the tank, assume this is OK to just let go ahead?

2. Feeding. In your experience how long is it until they will happily take their first feed?

3. First water change. How long should I hold off for. Planning on doing a small change today and a 50-60% change tomorrow?

4. Anything else I should keep an eye on?

PS just checked NH4 and NO2, both Zero.

well this pair of discus are turning out to be a right cheeky pair of blighters...i've been in the garden most of this afternoon and everytime i've looked in the living room window i've seen them swimming about happily, as soon as i get in the room they hide in the corner...hmmm...wish i could actually see them feeding though!

[Don Trinko]

Hi Graham; just pointing out the differences in fish. Strange that I never loose discus in 1 day.
My LFS has 15 day guarantee on FW, 7 day on SW. When I buy SW I let it sit in their tank for a week before I buy. Fw move quickly so I can't do that.
Don T.

[poconogal]

well this pair of discus are turning out to be a right cheeky pair of blighters...i've been in the garden most of this afternoon and everytime i've looked in the living room window i've seen them swimming about happily, as soon as i get in the room they hide in the corner...hmmm...wish i could actually see them feeding though!
Haha... cheeky is right, Nick! What I do is hide some place where they can't see me and then spy on them... with binoculars, if necessary. That way I can see them eating, otherwise they will, (not all of them though, but probably most) in the beginning at least, not eat in front of you. Or even swim in front of you. Cheeky...

[nickmcmechan]

Haha... cheeky is right, Nick! What I do is hide some place where they can't see me and then spy on them... with binoculars, if necessary. That way I can see them eating, otherwise they will, (not all of them though, but probably most) in the beginning at least, not eat in front of you. Or even swim in front of you. Cheeky...

hey thanks connie, should i be concerned that i'm not aware of them eating in 4 days? they look fine

[Roxanne]

Hi Nick

As long as your water parameters are ok, just give them a bit of time of get used to you...I think mine used to warn each other I was coming and start to act "sick"...

If I want to see what mine get up to when I'm not around, I have discus cam set up & I can watch them on a monitor...

It might take them a while to eat but also, I'd leave the light off for a day or three until they get used to their surroundings...my latest arrivals haven't had the lights on yet cos they are a little freaked still...it's been about 5 days with room light only and they are calmer than when I turn on the light..if it's a big tank you could hold off on the WC's until they are a little more settled....I've found shipped fish need time to recover without more stress..

some questions: How big is your tank?...what is your ph?...do you age the water?

Roxanne

Ola & Gracias Ed, I'll try that next time;)

[silent_thunder]

I only acclimate for as long as it takes temps to match. I add a tiny bit of Stress Guard (not Stress Coat) by Seachem to the bag in the meantime. It is a mild antiseptic and removes ammonia as well. I test the bag PH to make sure that it's lower than my tank and it is always is. Once temps match, I do the grab and plop method, either by netting the fish and plopping it in the tank or by grabbing the fish in my hands and plopping it into the tank. Last two I received I used my hands. Much much better than a net, no scratches, etc. and it was very easy. I know many Discus keepers do the grab and plop method, as long as tank PH is higher than bag water. I do not put any bag water into the tank, ever.

Using this method I've found that the Discus don't even notice they've been moved!

Well...This thread has been insightfull...to say the least.

Today I will make a 4 hour trip with more discus...=L= The owner had told me long ago not to float them to long...but I would add a cup of water ever so often for maybe 30 minutes and then net them into the tank...

Now from what I am reading....float them till temp matches rach in and plop `em into the tank?

Also...I have been gone for 3 days...should I do a water change before adding them?

I always like learning stuff here...this site is the bomb...:D

Thanks

Daniel

[poconogal]

....Now from what I am reading....float them till temp matches rach in and plop `em into the tank?

Also...I have been gone for 3 days...should I do a water change before adding them?...

Just grab and plop, once the temps match or are close. If my tank temp is a degree or two warmer I don't worry about it. Also, as long as the PH of your tank is higher than the bag water. If your PH is only slightly lower in the tank, you can do it as well. I have heard of bad results when the PH of the tank was a LOT lower than the bag water.

You aren't putting them into a tank that has Discus or other fish in it already, are you? They should be going into a newly set up QT. If so, and I really hope you are doing QT, there shouldn't be any need for a WC.

[Ed13]

Ola & Gracias Ed, I'll try that next time;)
No problem Roxanne:)

BTW, ola=wave, hola=hello;) not that there aren't any waves in Australia:p(wish I could visit!...)

[Mr Wild]

Bought 2 more blue wilds today, drove 1.5hours home then let them float for about 20mins and opened and dropped them in gently. No problems at all. Thanks guys this thread has been very very helpful! Kath

[Eddie]

Bought 2 more blue wilds today, drove 1.5hours home then let them float for about 20mins and opened and dropped them in gently. No problems at all. Thanks guys this thread has been very very helpful! Kath

Cool Kath, thats great! Post pictures when you can. :D

Best of luck,

Eddie

[Mr Wild]

Eddie - have a look here ! http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?p=525820#post525820

[silent_thunder]

I did drop and plop for the first time last night...I let them float for a bit to get the water temerature the same, about 5 minutes and bingo...drooped em in and they were eating within` a few minutes!

Thanks for posting this idea...

D

[Roxanne]

I did drop and plop for the first time last night.....drooped em in and they were eating within` a few minutes!

D

You did it:)...We are so proud of you D...

Personally, I wouldn't have "drooped" them:D, but, hey....whatever works right?

Rox


BTW, ola=wave, hola=hello not that there aren't any waves in Australia(wish I could visit!...)

:o ..mucho apologies for my really bad spanish Ed..love to see ya down under one day...:)

[poconogal]

You did it:)...We are so proud of you D...

Personally, I wouldn't have "drooped" them:D, but, hey....whatever works right?

Rox

LOL Rox, I had visions of really droopy Discus being plopped into the tank :D:D:D Struck me funny!

But see, it really works well, even when they're drooped...

[nickmcmechan]

well this pair of discus are turning out to be a right cheeky pair of blighters...i've been in the garden most of this afternoon and everytime i've looked in the living room window i've seen them swimming about happily, as soon as i get in the room they hide in the corner...hmmm...wish i could actually see them feeding though!

So, an update....and one that really surprised me today :)

I had thought that in the last few days they had started to take some bloodworm and I'd seem them come out a little more, so I kinda thought 'good, a little progress, soon have them off the bloodworm and onto beefheart, keep up the water changes...' :)

Anyhows, came come today to find....eggs! loads of them! they've spawned alreaady! :D

does this explain any of the habits?

[Roxanne]

....float them till temp matches rach in and plop `em into the tank?

Also...I have been gone for 3 days...should I do a water change before adding them?


Daniel

Whooaaa D....you're not putting those fish into that ammonia cycling tank are you? Just checking....

[Roxanne]

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Anyhows, came come today to find....eggs! loads of them! they've spawned alreaady! :D

does this explain any of the habits?

lol.....no. but it explains your water must be ok! ha ha

Congratulations Nick...you're a discus daddy!:)

[Armandi_Fishcarer]

Congrats on the spawn. Hope all goes well for you.

Regards
Ahmed ;)