Heckel Cross X ARD

[Eddie]

Well, I initially thought these 2 were not gonna work but last night they did their thing in the community tank, so I moved them to their own...private quarters. Hopefully the Heckel Cross can man up and handle the amount of eggs this babe produces.

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[goch]

wow the blue discus i awesome! :)

[Eddie]

wow the blue discus i awesome! :)

Thanks, I grew him out from 2.5 inches. He is like a son. ;)

Take care,

Eddie

[blkrob]

I'm sure it will all work out. Looks like you're getting closer to shipping me some fish.:)
Robert

[Eddie]

I'm sure it will all work out. Looks like you're getting closer to shipping me some fish.:)
Robert

Definitely Robert! I'd love to get some fry from these 2! :D

Take care,

Eddie

[Ed13]

Definitely Robert! I'd love to get some fry from these 2! :D

Take care,

Eddie
ME too!;);)

Gonna be an interesting cross!

[Eddie]

ME too!;);)

Gonna be an interesting cross!

Oh yeah, should be a nice mix of intermediates, if they go the distance. :o

Take care Ed,

Eddie

[poconoboss]

I'm sorry, I must be a doofus, what does ARD stand for?

Albino.......?

BTW, she is STUNNING!!!

[Eddie]

I'm sorry, I must be a doofus, what does ARD stand for?

Albino.......?

BTW, she is STUNNING!!!

Albino Red Diamond. ;) Thanks

Eddie

[Scribbles]

I bet that this pair could have some incredible fry. I'm curious though as to what effect the albino gene would have on the Heckel bar? Would you get some with the Heckel bar or would none of them have a bar but carry the gene so that the next generation could have a bar?

Chris

[Eddie]

I bet that this pair could have some incredible fry. I'm curious though as to what effect the albino gene would have on the Heckel bar? Would you get some with the Heckel bar or would none of them have a bar but carry the gene so that the next generation could have a bar?

Chris

Thanks Chris, I couldnt tell you. I'll have to try it and find out. :o Or let them try it anyways. LOL :D

Take care,

Eddie

[DiscusKeeper403]

Hey Eddie,

That is a really nice pair. I am interested to see what kind of fry come out of the pair. I assume you split the heckel and blue scorpion? Was the pair not working or did you prefer these two together instead? Hopefully they work out for you, I am sure you will be able to get the fry to attach now ;)

[Eddie]

Hey Eddie,

That is a really nice pair. I am interested to see what kind of fry come out of the pair. I assume you split the heckel and blue scorpion? Was the pair not working or did you prefer these two together instead? Hopefully they work out for you, I am sure you will be able to get the fry to attach now ;)

Thanks Connor, the Heckel Cross and Blue Scorpion were in different tanks and the Albino Red Diamond female spawned in the community tank with the the Heckel Cross. The 2 have been shakin quite a bit in the breeding tank but no eggs yet. Should be soon though....I can feel it. :D

Yeah, seeing as how the Heckel Cross handled his last babies well, he should be able to handle the next batch.

Take care,

Eddie

[Cooldadddyfunk286]

Eddie never fails to make me envious! damn, I wonder how that pair could turn out?! both parents are freakin AMAZING. Eddie, you got some great stock over there...you really really do. Im happy for ya! :):)

take care bro.

[Eddie]

Eddie never fails to make me envious! damn, I wonder how that pair could turn out?! both parents are freakin AMAZING. Eddie, you got some great stock over there...you really really do. Im happy for ya! :):)

take care bro.

LOL, thanks Jason. I'm curious myself, but I assume mainly turqs but it all depends on the Heckel Cross genes. I'm really hoping these 2 make it happen. To be honest, he doesnt fight her and she doesn't fight him. They did at first but when they went into the community tank, they were like peas and carrots. :D

Take care,

Eddie

[yann]

WAOOOUUUU !!!!
hope you'll update when you'll have babies ! :)

Yann

[Eddie]

WAOOOUUUU !!!!
hope you'll update when you'll have babies ! :)

Yann

Thanks Yann, most definitely!

Take care,

Eddie

[MSD]

Love to see the outcome of these two spawning, you can figure the fry if you know the parents exact gene pool. I bet if you lower the temp of the water when changing they will start going at it. Doing lower temps and feeding CBW's which I know we don't do, are great ways to get the party started. Good luck Eddie, it'll be a fun ride for you whatever happens. I'm tagging along for the duration. :D

[Eddie]

Love to see the outcome of these two spawning, you can figure the fry if you know the parents exact gene pool. I bet if you lower the temp of the water when changing they will start going at it. Doing lower temps and feeding CBW's which I know we don't do, are great ways to get the party started. Good luck Eddie, it'll be a fun ride for you whatever happens. I'm tagging along for the duration. :D

Thanks Mark! Yeah they had a splash of cold today. They are just enjoying themselves. :D Should be soon, as the females tube is dropped and my Heckel Cross, is always ready. LOL

Take care my friend and hopefully I'll be putting some shots up of their spawn in the coming days.

Eddie

[Eddie]

Pictures never really represent the fish well but these were taken with the tank lights off and natural light shining on the tank. Makes the turquoise really stand out.

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[Darren's Discus]

Very nice Eddie,all the best with them.



cheers

[Eddie]

Very nice Eddie,all the best with them.



cheers

Thanks Darren, I appreciate it.

Take care,

Eddie

[poddan]

Dont think I ever have seen such a clean tank before.

I wont let my wife see pictures from your tanks.
:D

[Eddie]

Been a good 30 minutes and they are still making runs as I type. :o

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[joanr]

Eddie, didn't these two just raise some fry a few weeks ago or was that another pair? Anyway, the photos are terrific, the pair is outstanding and I've got to get one of those Canon 420's for Xmas!
Best of luck with this spawn!

[Eddie]

Eddie, didn't these two just raise some fry a few weeks ago or was that another pair? Anyway, the photos are terrific, the pair is outstanding and I've got to get one of those Canon 420's for Xmas!
Best of luck with this spawn!

Thanks Joan! It was my Heckel Cross and Blue Scorpion. The Albino Pair was too much my wife and I, FIGHTING 24-7. These 2 are like 2 peas in a pod. I had them in a community tank and they decided to pair up on their own. ;)

The camera is a Canon A480, very cheap but effective.

Take care and best with everything!

Eddie

[joanr]

Wasn't sure about that model number, but that's the one I want! A blue one. Not good fighting about the fish, or anything for that matter, life is too short. My hubby is not a discus head but he supports my hobby and helps out with the w/c's and stuff, very cool of him. He is getting real attached to the blue scorp.

[Scribbles]

Great pics Eddie! Congrats on the spawn.

Chris

[Eddie]

Great pics Eddie! Congrats on the spawn.

Chris

Thanks Chris, lets just hope they last. ;)

Take care,

Eddie

[poconoboss]

Eddie, may I ask where you got the ARD from?

I would love to get one!!

It's like a pigeon but without the chance of getting any peppering. :D

[DiscusFreakaZoid]

thats a real colorful pair covering all ends of the light spectrum. that blues body is amazing and the finnage shape is perfect . is that a high body? and what is heckel cross exactly? is it mixed with a wild and a turq? i will use your heckel blue pic and ask Ken to find me one:balloon::bandana: Ive been looking for a nice blue to compliment my albinos.

[Eddie]

Eddie, may I ask where you got the ARD from?

I would love to get one!!

It's like a pigeon but without the chance of getting any peppering. :D

Well, I picked them up from a Japanese Breeder, that imports fish from Malaysia. I live in Japan so its my only option.

A very similar looking fish are the Albino Spotted varieties that several of the sponsors sell. Something like an Albino Spotted Turk, Albino Leopard, Albino Eruption Leopard.

Take care,

Eddie

[poconoboss]

Well, I picked them up from a Japanese Breeder, that imports fish from Malaysia. I live in Japan so its my only option.

A very similar looking fish are the Albino Spotted varieties that several of the sponsors sell. Something like an Albino Spotted Turk, Albino Leopard, Albino Eruption Leopard.

Take care,

Eddie

Thanks!

[Eddie]

thats a real colorful pair covering all ends of the light spectrum. that blues body is amazing and the finnage shape is perfect . is that a high body? and what is heckel cross exactly? is it mixed with a wild and a turq? i will use your heckel blue pic and ask Ken to find me one:balloon::bandana: Ive been looking for a nice blue to compliment my albinos.

Thanks, they are my 2 favorite colors. Now I cant say that the Heckel Cross is from Wayne NG because I do not have a certificate but he had a similar fish called a Checkerboard Heckel. I heard from some folks on here that he does not have this fish anymore. Not in high demand and they were difficult breeding, maybe breeding true...I dont know. This is all hear say so don't take it too seriously. I have seen a few places here in Japan selling Heckel Crosses, but not like this one. Generally the fish will have the last 4 bars more prominent so it does not look the same. My Heckel Cross can show only the center or 5th bar at times and it is the darkest/thickest bar, very intriguing.

Take care,

Eddie

[DiscusFreakaZoid]

Thanks, they are my 2 favorite colors. Now I cant say that the Heckel Cross is from Wayne NG because I do not have a certificate but he had a similar fish called a Checkerboard Heckel. I heard from some folks on here that he does not have this fish anymore. Not in high demand and they were difficult breeding, maybe breeding true...I dont know. This is all hear say so don't take it too seriously. I have seen a few places here in Japan selling Heckel Crosses, but not like this one. Generally the fish will have the last 4 bars more prominent so it does not look the same. My Heckel Cross can show only the center or 5th bar at times and it is the darkest/thickest bar, very intriguing.

Take care,

Eddie
so you got one of a kind not to mention nicest blue fish ive seen yet. i noticed the bars and they compliment the fishes patterns and body very well. hope all goes well with the pair and and they produce some wiggars and u dont charge much for overnite delivery to the US:alien:

[Eddie]

so you got one of a kind not to mention nicest blue fish ive seen yet. i noticed the bars and they compliment the fishes patterns and body very well. hope all goes well with the pair and and they produce some wiggars and u dont charge much for overnite delivery to the US:alien:

LOL, I can only hope. ;) These 2 together are like night and day compared to her last mate. The Heckel Cross seems to be the mentor and yet she is the older fish. They take turns fanning while the other looks for food. I may pull the female but I am in 2 minds. I know the male can go the distance but I'd love to see the female doing her thing too.

Take care,

Eddie

[Eddie]

Moved Mom, didnt want to risk it. Dad is a MAD protector, his enemy is the siphon tube! There are a little over 200 eggs at the moment. :o

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[moik]

Great to see this, maybe Santa will bring a tank or two.....
Moved Mom, didnt want to risk it. Dad is a MAD protector, his enemy is the siphon tube! There are a little over 200 eggs at the moment. :o

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[Eddie]

Great to see this, maybe Santa will bring a tank or two.....

LOL, thanks Vince! Already have an empty 55 waiting for some little buggers. Its been empty a while so maybe I can put it to good use. :D

Take care,

Eddie

[moik]

At the rate you are going,,you gonna need another backup tank soon..I have some tanks on my christmas list too..See if santa will approve..
LOL, thanks Vince! Already have an empty 55 waiting for some little buggers. Its been empty a while so maybe I can put it to good use. :D

Take care,

Eddie

[Eddie]

At the rate you are going,,you gonna need another backup tank soon..I have some tanks on my christmas list too..See if santa will approve..

Yeah, might have to do some shuffling around and some selling of my older fish. My Penang Eruption and Leopard are starting to get freaky ALSO! :o

I cant get any more tanks, unless I want to sleep in one! LOL

Eddie

[moik]

Atleast you will stay warm all night..A little pruned but warm
Yeah, might have to do some shuffling around and some selling of my older fish. My Penang Eruption and Leopard are starting to get freaky ALSO! :o

I cant get any more tanks, unless I want to sleep in one! LOL

Eddie

[Eddie]

Atleast you will stay warm all night..A little pruned but warm

LOL, I didnt say there'd be a heater......the Boss (wife) will have me and the tank outside!

Eddie

[DavidC]

Wow Eddie i love the Heckel cross so ridiculously gorgeous!!!

[Eddie]

Wow Eddie i love the Heckel cross so ridiculously gorgeous!!!

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Take care,

Eddie

[joanr]

Is that one of Wayne's Heckels? It looks like one, just amazing coloration, you are going to have some great fry from that pair!

[Eddie]

Is that one of Wayne's Heckels? It looks like one, just amazing coloration, you are going to have some great fry from that pair!

I hope so Joan....

I am not sure if its from Wayne as I got him from the LFS here in Japan. They do get Wayne fish from time to time but since I didnt get a certificate, I cant say it is. :o

Take care,

Eddie