new arrival

[marjan777]

Hi,

Yesterday I just got my Singapore arrival, four 10cm. discuss and I have put them in quarantine.
My question is ,first days do I need to do WC daily routine?
Do I need to treat them with any drugs (ESHA, Octozine, Prazi, …etc.)?

Fishes are still dizzy and they swim unbalanced. I don’t want to disturb them even more.


Thank you :)

[Eddie]

Hi,

Yesterday I just got my Singapore arrival, four 10cm. discuss and I have put them in quarantine.
My question is ,first days do I need to do WC daily routine?
Do I need to treat them with any drugs (ESHA, Octozine, Prazi, …etc.)?

Fishes are still dizzy and they swim unbalanced. I don’t want to disturb them even more.


Thank you :)

Just keep them comfortable, tank lights out, temp a little warm (86F), good aeration and not alot of commotion. Usually the commotion part is tough since we all like spending the better part of our day, directly in front of the tank when we get new fish. :D

Eddie

[TRUC10507]

I think a little salt will help too.
GL

[tcyiu]

I think a little salt will help too.
GL

:thumbsup:

Agreeded.

Tim

[mmorris]

Is the tank cycled?

[marjan777]

Is the tank cycled?

yes morris tank is cycled

[marjan777]

I think a little salt will help too.
GL

ok but how much per liter. and what kind of salt ? Regular salt ? Epson salt?
I dont use much salt in my tank before.

thanks:)

[Eddie]

ok but how much per liter. and what kind of salt ? Regular salt ? Epson salt?
I dont use much salt in my tank before.

thanks:)

Regular salt, 1-2 tbsp per 10 gallons

[marjan777]

Regular salt, 1-2 tbsp per 10 gallons

Thanks Eddie:)

[zamboniMan]

I'd add several air stones initially then once they've settled in better take a couple out. If you have an RO unit you may up the ratio of RO water to tap water (maybe half and half or 1/4 tap 3/4 RO) initially to help with water quality. Then you can go to a more normal ratio (1/4 RO to 3/4 tap) once they're happy.

Merry Christmas!

Josh

[David Rose]

Nothing new to add to what Eddie said. Best of luck with your new Discus! I look forward to seeing pictures after they're all settled in.

[marjan777]

I think they start to "relax" and get use to new home :)

thanks to all of you, for all your help.
Pictures will be soon....................:)

Thanks

[sbanks78]

congrats ! looking forward to seeing some pics

[marjan777]

Hi, unfortunately my new fish are not going well.:confused:
They are 4 fish and 2 of them are scratching very nervous, so I try 2 days of PreisColy but that thing is “ bulls...t” :mad: and waist of money and time. No improvement at all.
So can you help me with some advice?
maybe PP?
formalin?
esha?

Tank-QT is 70 liters,
temp 33-34c,
water parameters are 0,
PH is 7.5.
Daily 60% WC.

Thanks.

[Eddie]

Bring the temperature down to about 30F. Do you have salt in the water? Add extra air via airstone. Give us some more symptoms.

Eddie

[marjan777]

Bring the temperature down to about 30F. Do you have salt in the water? Add extra air via airstone. Give us some more symptoms.

Eddie


Thanks Eddie you are always on time, I will do first temp to 29C ? Is that OK?

ps.I read all your thread and you have excellent knowledge, and cleanest tanks

Thanks:)

[marjan777]

By the way, what’s your temperature in display tank (not QT), 29C ?

[Eddie]

Thanks Eddie you are always on time, I will do first temp to 29C ? Is that OK?

ps.I read all your thread and you have excellent knowledge, and cleanest tanks

Thanks:)


LOL, not really, I've had my own problems too. :o 29C is fine. What about the use of salt, have you added any?

Eddie

[marjan777]

Yes I add 1,5 TS per 10 gal.

[marjan777]

Do you ever try this: http://www.eshalabs.com/hexamita.htm

very popular in Europe,they say is good med.

[Eddie]

Yes I add 1,5 TS per 10 gal.

Is TS equivalent to US tbsp? If you can use weight, use 100 grams per 100 liters.

Eddie

[marjan777]

Is TS equivalent to US tbsp? If you can use weight, use 100 grams per 100 liters.

Eddie


OK

[marjan777]

I guess tbsp is same size.

For how long time to use salt treatment??



Sorry for my English.:)

[mmorris]

Do you have access to a microscope? If it is parasites, PP, IMO, would be the best to use. If you do, use it at 2ppm for four hours. I'm guessing TS is teaspoons, rather than tablespoon. It's best to go by weight.

[plecocicho]

Hello, peris colly can help, but you have to give triple dose (eg 45 ml )per 100 liter, or do the short bath as it is written on the box of the medicine. iF that doesnt help, go for the more powerfull drugs. But you have to remember, preis colly doesnt harm your filter, so its the first choice for me. And definetellly bring down teperature to 29 degrees,

[Eddie]

I guess tbsp is same size.

For how long time to use salt treatment??



Sorry for my English.:)


For now, indefinitely until the fish start to get comfortable. About 7 days will probably get them right. Make sure you add back any salt removed from water changes.

If the 2 fish that are acting strange, get too bad off, I'd salt dip them and then return them to the QT tank. Salt dip instructions are given in the Disease section, its a sticky. ;)

Click on page 295

http://books.google.com/books?id=SAdDtT7YRRoC&dq=fish+disease+treatment+noga&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=LSUxS8L7HY6eswOc9YDPBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBYQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=salt&f=false

All the best,

Eddie

[marjan777]

Thanks to all :)

[Eddie]

Thanks to all :)

Any improvements?

Eddie

[marjan777]

Not really. Fish arrive before 7 days and I think they need couple more weeks.
But they MUST to be good because are very, very beautiful :angel:
-2 leopard snakeskin 10cm
- 2 red melons 12cm
Body form is very round, so I must to post pictures.

Thanks :)

[marjan777]

By the way, can you tell me your opinion for this meds?
http://www.eshalabs.com/hexamita.htm (http://www.eshalabs.com/hexamita.htm)
http://www.eshalabs.com/esha2000.htm (http://www.eshalabs.com/esha2000.htm)

Thanks :)

[Eddie]

Not really. Fish arrive before 7 days and I think they need couple more weeks.
But they MUST to be good because are very, very beautiful :angel:
-2 leopard snakeskin 10cm
- 2 red melons 12cm
Body form is very round, so I must to post pictures.

Thanks :)

Yeah, maybe a little time.


By the way, can you tell me your opinion for this meds?
http://www.eshalabs.com/hexamita.htm (http://www.eshalabs.com/hexamita.htm)
http://www.eshalabs.com/esha2000.htm (http://www.eshalabs.com/esha2000.htm)

Thanks :)



Dont have any experience with those medications but it looks like one treats flagellates and the other treats bacteria. I have heard of them, just never used them.

Take care,

Eddie

[marjan777]

Help,
One of four fish lay down in the corner of the tank, heavy breathing, and disbalance swimming.:(

I do:
- 90% WC.
- salt (100ml to 100lit.)
- Esha- hexamita discus (regular dosage)
- Water temp is 29c
- Ph 7-5
-rest of water parameters are OK
Seems to me very bad condition almost death

ANY ADVICE PLEASE?

Thanks

[Eddie]

Help,
One of four fish lay down in the corner of the tank, heavy breathing, and disbalance swimming.:(

I do:
- 90% WC.
- salt (100ml to 100lit.)
- Esha- hexamita discus (regular dosage)
- Water temp is 29c
- Ph 7-5
-rest of water parameters are OK
Seems to me very bad condition almost death

ANY ADVICE PLEASE?

Thanks

What are you using for a water conditioner? When did you start the Esha? What other symptoms if any with other fish? Laying down and heavy breathing has me thinking toxin.


Eddie

[marjan777]

What are you using for a water conditioner? When did you start the Esha? What other symptoms if any with other fish? Laying down and heavy breathing has me thinking toxin.


Eddie

-Water con.-sera aquantan
-Yesterday I start with Esha
-I’m not sure for symptoms of any other fish. Two of them are OK, one is very shy and one is heavy breathing, no balance swimming and scratching.

Thanks

[marjan777]

I do a 30 min. bath of one fish with double dose of Sera Tremazol (prazi).

I must to do something, fish scratching like crazy.

http://www.sera.de/index.php?id=346&L=1&type=htt%2Findex.php%3Fadresa%3Dhttp%3A%2F%25...

[marjan777]

Fish is not that bed, but I notice back caudal fin is divided on two parts.
Maybe fin root?

Thanks

[plecocicho]

Fin rot looks different than dividing fins. Edges are disolving and spines die off as well, not just the membrane between them, Could be that opurtunity bacterias will attack weak fish though. Can you post a pic of the diseased fish and what are water parameters?