Albino Blue Diamond Throwbacks [Archive]

Discus-n00b

05-24-2010, 12:03 AM

Male in the first shot, female in the second. This is the unproven pair that is learning. Can clearly see why its water change day tomorrow. ;)
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/abtb3b.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/abtb2b.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/abtb1b.jpg

Discus-n00b

05-24-2010, 05:08 PM

They've been dancing all day. Especially after a meal of FDBW....i love this food.

hedut

05-24-2010, 05:39 PM

Love them too;), don't forget to update if everything happen:D:D:D. mine the male not ready yet:o so eggs just turn white:(

Discus-n00b

05-24-2010, 06:10 PM

Same with mine. Female seems to produce a pretty large spawn already though for being young.

vera

05-24-2010, 06:58 PM

Very beautiful pair Matt!!
do they have red rim on dorsal ?

best of luck !

db2inst1

05-24-2010, 06:59 PM

Matt, They look great. Especially, the male with the long fin.

GoodLuck

Discus-n00b

05-24-2010, 08:08 PM

Thanks.

Vera, yes they do have a red rim.

ockyra215

05-27-2010, 08:22 PM

I still say those albinos are catching my eye more and more.:D

Discus-n00b

05-27-2010, 09:35 PM

I wasn't a huge albino fan either. I really like Albino Turqs and those with a little pattern but not to much. I wasn't even planning on any until I saw Kenny post these for sale, and thats what sold me. Had to jump on them. And Albino shapes keep getting better and better.

I'm going to start working some color bits in the diet I think, maybe I can bring out some more of the red in them.

Discus-n00b

05-29-2010, 02:28 AM

Female with eggs.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/Abdtb22.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/Abdtb21.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/Abdtb20.jpg

Male
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/Abdtb19.jpg

DiscusKev

05-30-2010, 08:11 AM

Nices shots Matt, both look great. Is that 1 unfertilized egg I see, so far so good :D

all the best,

Eddie

05-30-2010, 08:13 AM

Missed this one Matt, gorgeous ABD TBs!

All the best with the eggs!

Eddie

ockyra215

06-03-2010, 09:23 PM

Matt,You get some fry id be interested in some if you do.:D

Discus-n00b

08-01-2010, 12:16 AM

Ed13

08-01-2010, 08:33 AM

They sure are a gorgeous pair Matt!

DiscusKev

08-01-2010, 10:19 AM

Newest picture of the pair. They are my most prolific at laying eggs. Eggs still turn white. The good news is though that they don't seem to want to eat them...even after they turn white.

Sounds like both good and bad habit, good for them not being egg eaters, and bad for them for not being able to pick out the bad eggs. Nevertheless, that pair is really beautiful, really hope they breed for you, I wanna see some wrigglers :D

Discus-n00b

08-01-2010, 04:18 PM

Thanks Kevin. They are still fairly young and new to this so I think they will get the hang of it soon. Really want to work with this pair, great shape and patterns to them IMO. If they keep eating tetra bits they'll turn an almost orange hue. Really nice.

DiscusKev

08-01-2010, 04:47 PM

Discus-n00b

08-03-2010, 08:51 PM

My god, they laid eggs again as I type this. After a water change. If the male ever gets it right I could very well be overwhelemed with fry from this pair lol.

joanr

08-03-2010, 09:08 PM

Matt, are they getting whiter as they age or is it your different lighting? They are super lovely looking. They have changed a lot over the past months. I like....

Discus-n00b

08-03-2010, 09:48 PM

Thanks. Its just the lighting used. That last show was with a direct flash, they are actually more orange now then they were.

Discus-n00b

08-04-2010, 02:30 PM

I have more of these in a grow out tank, and one is a major pig for Color Bits, so I wanted to post him here as well so you can see how orange they can get if they are on things like color bits. Its honestly more of a "Peach" color. The other white fish in the tank are more ABD throwbacks...but they don't eat as many colorbits.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange8.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange2.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange3.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange9.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange5.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange6.jpg

Another ABDtb in the background
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange1.jpg

Next to a Flamingo
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange7.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange4.jpg

DiscusKev

08-04-2010, 05:31 PM

They look like they are wearing a mask, there face is incredible.

Their colour do seem have changed quite a bit, unique!

Jennie

08-04-2010, 05:38 PM

wow, Guess I'll be feeding my bdtb color bits! Those are beautiful

I have more of these in a grow out tank, and one is a major pig for Color Bits, so I wanted to post him here as well so you can see how orange they can get if they are on things like color bits. Its honestly more of a "Peach" color. The other white fish in the tank are more ABD throwbacks...but they don't eat as many colorbits.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange8.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange2.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange3.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange9.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange5.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange6.jpg

Another ABDtb in the background
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange1.jpg

Next to a Flamingo
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange7.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtborange4.jpg

Discus-n00b

08-04-2010, 05:44 PM

Thanks. I'd recommend trying to feed them color bits before getting them to hooked on the freeze dried blackworms. The others don't take to the color bits as well as this one fish does, he goes crazy for them. The others will nibble them now and take a few, but really want the worms.

Really nice orange or peach color after feeding a food that enhances the red color. I'm sure something like shrimp would work as well.

Jennie

08-04-2010, 06:02 PM

did this color take 2 months to achieve by feeding TB. I see you have had them a couple months.

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Thanks. I'd recommend trying to feed them color bits before getting them to hooked on the freeze dried blackworms. The others don't take to the color bits as well as this one fish does, he goes crazy for them. The others will nibble them now and take a few, but really want the worms.

Really nice orange or peach color after feeding a food that enhances the red color. I'm sure something like shrimp would work as well.

Discus-n00b

08-04-2010, 06:18 PM

Yes its just now really starting to show. I'd say withen the last 2 weeks or so its really popped.

Jennie

08-04-2010, 06:22 PM

Thnx for replying.

Yes its just now really starting to show. I'd say withen the last 2 weeks or so its really popped.

Discus-n00b

08-16-2010, 05:47 PM

How does this pair look to you? ;) This is my pair that keeps laying eggs, still working on the male getting things right. This picture was taken before I moved them to their new breeder tank. Notice the long trailer coming off the male's fin on the right. They are cleaning the cone again as I type this.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/abdtbpair1-1.jpg

Eddie

08-16-2010, 07:33 PM

Nice pair Matt, and amazing photo!

Eddie

Chad Adams

08-16-2010, 09:16 PM

Nice pair Matt, and amazing photo!

Eddie

Yes, Nice fish & Photos. Good luck with the pair.
Chad

Discus-n00b

08-17-2010, 02:02 PM

Thanks both of you. I'm expecting eggs on the cone very shortly from this pair...as in today sometime.

The Male was posing last night and the light was perfect. Who says Albinos are bland and they don't like them because they have no color?! ;)
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtbmale1.jpg

sion

08-17-2010, 02:41 PM

beautifull fish ...the coloring is stunning ....some of the albino throwbacks are as nice or nicer than the original ...allmost looks like ghosting flames on a car ..:Dvery nice ...good luck

Discus-n00b

08-17-2010, 03:26 PM

Thanks, I really like this strain.

DiscusKev

08-17-2010, 07:35 PM

Look like he was in a photoshoot day! Great shot.

scottthomas

08-17-2010, 08:34 PM

Those are beautiful fish. I would love to breed those. Also, the fact that you take the best quality photos on Simply doesnt hurt.

Discus-n00b

08-17-2010, 08:44 PM

Those are beautiful fish. I would love to breed those. Also, the fact that you take the best quality photos on Simply doesnt hurt.

Oh, I don't know about that. There are some others on here that take great pics. Thanks though. :)

Thanks Kevin!

Happy to report, eggs are on the cone now. Male made passes....we'll see. I took the male out, he has no interest in the eggs after they are laid and he makes passes. He constantly beats up the female so she can't take care of them.

poconoboss

08-17-2010, 11:43 PM

Beautiful fish and photo!

Discus-n00b

08-18-2010, 06:13 PM

Thanks

ockyra215

08-18-2010, 10:19 PM

Matt, I love the throw backs you have they look awesome!:D

Discus-n00b

08-18-2010, 11:02 PM

Thanks, they are some of my favorites. :) Really nice strain for anyone looking for Albinos but not just the "plain" ones.

Kenny's Discus

08-19-2010, 09:41 AM

Great photography as Matt!:thumbsup:

As for the eggs these are still relatively young fish I would let them try a few more times and if it still doesn't work out then if possible try to separate them and put one of them back in with the others to let him choose another male/female...sometimes compatibility plays a great role in successful breeding; in the past I've seen fish(males OR females) that didn't get along very well with their mates during the egg laying process, but when switched to other mates did a much better job and were then able to produce successful batches of frys. I guess in a way it's like us humans...:D

Here are some ABDt frys that were produced artificially by the exact same line of ABDt's, though the parents are a little older than yours. Hope this gives you a bit of encouragement Matt!:)

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?t=80007

Take care my friend,
Kenny

Discus-n00b

08-19-2010, 10:57 AM

Thanks Kenny, I know they are still young....but Its always frustrating! LOL. I think my white butterfly male frustrates me more though, about to put them back in General Population to spice things up a bit. The ABD throwback posted a little earlier in this thread, the real orange one, is a female as well so I have her as an option too.

mikel

08-19-2010, 07:59 PM

Wow, what an awesome pair! beautiful! Is it true that two of the ABD throwback together would give you a significant percentage of albino BD, aka platinums? I think those platinums are just so stunning! :)mike

Discus-n00b

08-19-2010, 08:37 PM

Thanks Mike, yes thats what I am told by Kenny...2 ABD throwbacks will give a % of ABD fry.

Lukan

08-20-2010, 09:47 AM

sion

08-20-2010, 09:52 AM

great pair the coloring is excellent ...:D

Discus-n00b

08-20-2010, 02:29 PM

Thanks! I really like this strain. I'm feeding these specifically colorbits to get a little orange/red color to them. Was very surprised to see the blue show up on these but it just adds to it, really impressive.

If you look at their fins when they go up towards the light the striations on them looked almost purple, infact it seemed to be a light purple hue. And thats where the blue is now.

Discus-n00b

09-05-2010, 03:53 PM

Well an update for you all. I switched out the female, started using the Male above and the really orange female above, they seem to get along better then the other two. They had a batch of eggs and all went white...or so I thought. Just as I was about to clean them off the cone I notice 1 wiggler in the middle of the white eggs. Sucess! Sort of. ;)

I'm thinking my water might be to hard for most of the eggs to be good. Need to get my dad's RO unit that he used with his old SW tank and do a Tap/RO mix. My TDS is right at about 160 out of the tap.

Jennie

09-05-2010, 04:34 PM

I'm kinda jealous noob! My abdt have been eating the tetra color and still blah! though my aes is looking good. WTH?

Discus-n00b

09-05-2010, 04:51 PM

How long have you had them on the Tetra Color bits? I have 5 ABDt total, only one has become fully orange. The others just have some of their striations a bit more orange (Especially in the face), or a better pink or peach hue on the bodies. Could just be different per fish.

Jennie

09-05-2010, 04:56 PM

3 weeks. not even a tinge and they do eat them

Jennie

09-05-2010, 04:58 PM

is it just 1 feeding per day or more of color bits that you give

Discus-n00b

09-05-2010, 05:06 PM

Varies, 1-2 feedings per day. Mostly once per day. Probably just needs more time.

sion

09-13-2010, 10:21 PM

stunnin fish love the color !!!!

vera

09-13-2010, 10:47 PM

Matt , this shot is fantastic and Discus to drool over
very unique look especially with all the striation , do u think it will be more red on stripes
Well done !

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtbmale1.jpg

Discus-n00b

09-14-2010, 11:26 AM

Thanks Vera. I'll post some more pictures of him one I get back later today, he seems to be showing more red in the fins then blue now, but its still there. That was just observing by eye and on the camera LCD, I haven't seen them on the computer yet.

Discus-n00b

09-14-2010, 05:44 PM

Tried to take one with the exact same lighting and angle...pretty tough lol. Same fish at the same angle:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtbmale3.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtbmale2.jpg

Here is his female. Switched out the old one remember. Here she is, she's the ABDtb with the most orange on her.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/clemmatt/Discus/ABDtbfemale1.jpg

vera

09-14-2010, 05:47 PM

It does look more red atm , what camera do u use Matt, the shots are superb!

Discus-n00b

09-14-2010, 06:08 PM

Thanks! I use a Canon 5D Mark II.

Discus-n00b

09-20-2010, 10:33 PM

Machines i'm telling you. So i've been really busy lately and I haven't had a chance to clean this tank in at least 3-4 days. The last water change I did they spawned that night, I put the screen over the cone but the eggs ended up being no good and they pushed the screen to where they could eat them. I left the screen in there, and tonight since they can't get to the screen they are now spawning on the black glass.

Lol, I jsut can't stop these things. I think my water is a little to hard. I don't think the male can fertalize them fast enough (he doesn't seem to care either and would rather beg me for food) so they don't get fertalized and harden up to fast. Gonna try and get the old RO unit up and running again and see what I can do.

Just wanted to let you all know these things are crazy. Soooooooo many spawns.

Jennie

09-20-2010, 10:38 PM

the hubby wants to know if thats a eos or a rebel?

Discus-n00b

09-20-2010, 11:38 PM

Rebel's are EOS ;) EOS is the whole line of DSLR's from Canon. (Electro-Optical System). So it includes Rebels and the other cameras. So i guess its an EOS but not a Rebel. ;) hehe

Jennie

09-20-2010, 11:41 PM

thanks, trying to find a more affordable camera than your 3000$ dollar one that takes nice pics. any thoughts

Discus-n00b

09-21-2010, 12:37 AM

Depending on your budget I'd definently look at the Rebel line. I'm a Canon fan, so thats all I will really recommend personally. I started with the first line of Rebels and the newer models are really nice, really a good first jump into the DSLR game. Its a cheaper body, that can always use the big expensive lenses if you want to go that route.