Japura Green spawn

[dalejordan]

Hi All,

Thought I'd keep you wild buffs updated on more of the F1 stock we'll have available.

These are my best Japuras from a few months back dropping a KILLER spawn !! The spawn occurred overnight ( that's unusual !!) Once the lights came on in the morning and the female seen me, she started to eat the eggs. I quickly took a few "crappy" pictures and pulled the spawn for artificial raising. No worries though, there still was a good 200+ eggs left. I've included the original file picture of the solid green male and red spotted female.

[jball1125]

I love it everytime I see an update from you! Beautiful fish!

Can't wait see those fry!

With these and the blue face spawn it sounds like your gona be busy. Good luck :)

[luckyfind]

Things are realy starting to move for you . Congrats.
Looks like a busy summer for you.
Laurence

[Larry Bugg]

That red spotted it stunning!

[Eddie]

Oh man Dale, cant wait to see these babies! I was just telling someone the other day, your Japura are some of the best I've seen. Love their shape and green sheen.


All the best my friend!

Eddie

[Ed13]

Great news! Can't wait fo future updates;)

[vera]

Oh man Dale, cant wait to see these babies! I was just telling someone the other day, your Japura are some of the best I've seen. Love their shape and green sheen.


All the best my friend!

Eddie

Thats right Eddie, you were telling me that those were the nicest greens you've ever seen :)

great fish Dale keep us posted

Best of luck

[kaceyo]

What a pair Dale. These fry will be something special. Lots of updates are in order, lol!

[Eddie]

Thats right Eddie, you were telling me that those were the nicest greens you've ever seen :)

great fish Dale keep us posted

Best of luck


;)

[dalejordan]

Should hatch today guys and they look good ...thanks all !!!!!! I'm excited because of the solid sheen of the male. I'm REALLY curious if I'll get a typical Mendelian split or ???

[Pardal]

They are awesome both of them. Greens are my favour wilds. keep us posted
I need to get more tanks :D lol .

[Disgirl]

Those fish are spectacular Dale! Good luck with lots of healthy fry!
Barb:)

[kaceyo]

Should hatch today guys and they look good ...thanks all !!!!!! I'm excited because of the solid sheen of the male. I'm REALLY curious if I'll get a typical Mendelian split or ???

I'll keep my fingers crossed that you get great gobs of solid green red spotted fry:D
Fish like that might be worth dedicating my few tanks to a new type of spotted discus.

[Jhhnn]

Hard to say just how they'll turn out, but it's likely that there will be some outstanding individuals. Even relatively plain Japuras are quite beautiful, imo, among the most attractive of all wild discus...

[Pardal]

Thanks Dale for all the good info.
I think it is all of the above you mention, specially the guy kind of old.
The last few frys died today all curled up never get to free swimming.
Sad thing she is on the 7~10 streak, is cleaning the pvc like crazy in prep for new spawn.I change to pvc see if I got better luck.
will follow your advise.
Julian.

[dean9922]

Exciting Dale....am currently looking at getting some of your wild crosses from April very soon.......soooooo excited.....

[DiscusKev]

Outstanding Dale, your wilds never disappoint me. I really love the look of that emerald helmet on that male pictured on the first post, good luck on artifically raising that batch of 200+ eggs :D

[dalejordan]

Exciting Dale....am currently looking at getting some of your wild crosses from April very soon.......soooooo excited.....

Here are your babies :-) Showing a KILLER sheen already....one bad picture with the little guy with his mouth open ( makes him look longer than he is ) Should be a VERY NICE " Brilliant" type !!

Hopefully I can get them to April this coming week

[Eddie]

Super nice babies Dale! Didnt know you already had some pups growing out. They look fantastic!

Eddie

[ockyra215]

Awesome Dale, hey if your looking for someone to distribute in the states pm me.I would be interested in talking shop.Great looking greens.
Dave:D

[dean9922]

Now I'm really excited about getting some of these.....

[April]

looking good..i cant wait to see them!! get the next batch going..people are lining up. lol. im waiting for f3's. lol. guess it will be awhile...
they are showing alot of green sheen in their fins already .

[dalejordan]

Awesome Dale, hey if your looking for someone to distribute in the states pm me.I would be interested in talking shop.Great looking greens.
Dave:D

A friend of mine, Mark Treger from LA will be handling the distribution. Thank you for the offer though :-)

[ashaysathe]

WOW.. very nice.. looking good.

[dalejordan]

Here are the parents to the little ones I just posted ( going to April this week )

A KILLER Japura Royal Green and a very young "cobalt" type. Results look VERY promising :-)

[jball1125]

Parents are beauties Dale!

Killer avatar btw... :D

Take care

[Eddie]

Here are the parents to the little ones I just posted ( going to April this week )

A KILLER Japura Royal Green and a very young "cobalt" type. Results look VERY promising :-)

Awesome combo Dale! Those pups are gonna be stunners! Love that avatar too!

All the best,

Eddie

[luckyfind]

Should hatch today guys and they look good ...thanks all !!!!!! I'm excited because of the solid sheen of the male. I'm REALLY curious if I'll get a typical Mendelian split or ???

How did the hatch turn out Dale?
Laurence

[dalejordan]

How did the hatch turn out Dale?
Laurence

The hatch % was great, but the spawn was average size (about 100+). She's looking good to go on cycle, so I should be able to supply good numbers to be ready starting in Sept.

[dean9922]

just thought I'd mention that the fish you said has it's mouth open....well that just means it's hungry and will grow up nice and big for me....lol

[DiscusKev]

Dale,

That's really a killer pair, looking forward to hear for good results.

Dean,

The mouth is stretched outwards because it is 'yawning'. Usually when it does this, the dorsal and anal fin will be fully erected too. A good way to display its body shape and fins.

[April]

got my little wild charges from dale yesterday..very cute..good shape..strong..eating out of the bag.
ill post pics . hopefully tomorrow.

[Embersmom]

Hi Dale:

Day 3 and the little beasties are doing GREAT. I spent way too much time watching them today, but they are so cute! Actually, they are very interesting to watch. They are extremely curious, tough and very bold. I wanted to set up this grow-out tank with places for them to explore and hide, so while I kept it barebottom, I added a few pieces of driftwood and some moss balls. Half of the discus spent the entire day exploring the whole tank; the other half are more reserved and stick to themselves. They all have HUGE appetites and started eating freeze dried blackworms yesterday along with April's homemade discus pup food which they just DEVOUR. I thought watching a dario dario eat a bloodworm was the funniest thing I'd ever seen until seeing a baby discus suck up a blackworm like a string of spaghetti :) I really LOVE your trick of grating frozen fish food, but it goes EVERYWHERE!!!

Sorry about the video quality (first shot below is short vid); my camera is on its way out, but just wanted to show you how they're doing and thank you for such wonderful little beasties (but tomorrow I really MUST do some housework :D). The pictures were just taken 10 minutes ago.

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Shelley

[April]

great pics. nice babies. i have some similar!!
mine are eating out of my hands now. they all come up soon as they see me and grab the beefheart.
i need a new camera!! the iphone just doesnt do it.

[Embersmom]

great pics. nice babies. i have some similar!!
mine are eating out of my hands now. they all come up soon as they see me and grab the beefheart.
i need a new camera!! the iphone just doesnt do it.

Hey, we can compare growth rate......you know how competitive I am - but no force feeding with a turkey baster :p They're tough little gaffers, aren't they?

[April]

well i have to send some of mine to prince george apparently...but till then..: )

[dalejordan]

WOW you guys....look at the little Buddha bellies on them already, they sure look happy !!!!
Be careful Shelly with the FD bloodworms, I've had young of this size get "constipated " from them. I'd continue with your mixture until they're about 3.5" and then give them their treats :-)

Keep up the good work, please keep me posted and thank you again for the positive input !!

Take care

Dale

PS:This Royal Japura / Cobalt cross seems to be developing well. I have pulled another small spawn and will have these ready for Sept :-)
Pre-Orders for the Pure Japura, Madeira bluehead cross and these fish are coming in hard, if anyone wants any, I am taking pre-orders ( YES, I will be shipping to the US, Via LA )

[Embersmom]

Be careful Shelly with the FD bloodworms, I've had young of this size get "constipated " from them. I'd continue with your mixture until they're about 3.5" and then give them their treats :-)



Good point, Dale. Just 'cuz they CAN eat something, doesn't mean they SHOULD be eating it!!! They are more than happy with the beefheart mixture so I'll stick with that. I'll definately keep you posted on their progress and thanks again - they're just so awesome :)

[dalejordan]

Thanks again Shelly !!!

Forgot to mention in my last post. Spencer Jack of Afishionados here in Winnipeg ( http://cichlaholic.com/lists.html ) and I have decided to join forces. He has been able to negotiate KILLER rates to WHEREVER Air Canada flies. So if you live in Frankfurt and you want a few Cory's and a plant or two with your Discus....NO PROBLEM. If you live in Hong Kong and want a school of Cards with your Discus....NO PROBLEM. We will make it work for you if we can and at prices that rival or beat most domestic airline rates :-)

[April]

ok well i cant take pics..and i cant upload apparently..lol. shelley will have to come take pics..im incapable at this time. lol.
where do i sign up for the killer shipping fees. lol. im gonna callmy shop dale/spencer depot.

[dean9922]

I've heard the guy in Prince George is a super nice guy and that he is really excited to get his fish.....lol

[Embersmom]

I've heard the guy in Prince George is a super nice guy and that he is really excited to get his fish.....lol

Hopefully that super nice guy from Prince George is going to get his fish soon because I hear April is getting pretty bonded to them with her hand-feedings;) You're going to love them.

[April]

ok new camera. heres some pics of them eating their breakfast. they were up and begging when they saw me come in this morning.
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[luckyfind]

Hey Shelley looking good and I know they will get the best of care.

April you know you have to share,lol or maybe Dean will have to make a trip down south.
Laurence

[Embersmom]

Hey Shelley looking good and I know they will get the best of care.

April you know you have to share,lol or maybe Dean will have to make a trip down south.
Laurence

Thanks, Laurence. I appreciate that :)

It's been 11 days and I thought I'd show you all how they are doing.

I'll be honest - I was a little worried about the set up. As you can see, the 29 gallon tank is directly in a window. I did this because as April can tell you all, I'm running out of room for tanks :D It's working out WONDERFULLY. I keep the blinds open and only occasionally turn on the tank lighting so the little ones are totally responsive to natural light - they go to sleep when it gets dark out and they wake up slowly and gradually as the sun comes up. The window faces north and apartment buildings so they never get direct light. It works just great.

Because they would be so "exposed" in the window, I didn't want to have a completely open tank - at the sign of the first seagull or crow flying by the window, I didn't want them jumping out!! My other discus tanks are b/b so I compromised and used moss balls, a couple of potted plants, and a few odd pieces of driftwood. That's also working well - cleanup is a breeze and the tank has plenty of hiding and exploring places for the fish, plus they get to hunt for their food which is cool to watch.

Okay - enough about me..........here are the beasties from this morning. And yes, they are ALWAYS this active ;) They are beautiful little fish and I hope I'm doing alright by them. Dale, please let me know what you think. I'm feeding 4 times/day, and 2 25% waterchages a day as well.

Without further delay......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9NbqWsHHqw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2eUOPYFbRg

Thanks for watching, folks :)

[April]

wheres the popcorn? cant watch a movie without popcorn.lol.
id say they are all black and huddled in the corner..sick..lol. ok kidding..they look great. only thing is..they are swimming so much..they may wear their food off..are you out of beefheart mix yet? ill be making more..
you can put a big chunk innow..or hold it in your hands..forget the grater..mine sit and pick at their chunk like wild savages. well mine..as in deans..i get one to keep. lol.
make more dale..i have a 125 gallon waiting for them.

[Embersmom]

wheres the popcorn? cant watch a movie without popcorn.lol.
id say they are all black and huddled in the corner..sick..lol. ok kidding..they look great. only thing is..they are swimming so much..they may wear their food off..are you out of beefheart mix yet? ill be making more..
you can put a big chunk innow..or hold it in your hands..forget the grater..mine sit and pick at their chunk like wild savages. well mine..as in deans..i get one to keep. lol.
make more dale..i have a 125 gallon waiting for them.

That's EXACTLY what I was worried about too. They go go go ALL THE TIME!!! TONS of mixture left. That's why I'm afraid that I'm not feeding them enough. I am grating it though before I put it in the tank. I'll start throwing in chunks. They aren't bottom-less pits anymore - they eat their fill and leave the rest alone. Thanks, April :)

[dalejordan]

Thanks, Laurence. I appreciate that :)

It's been 11 days and I thought I'd show you all how they are doing.

I'll be honest - I was a little worried about the set up. As you can see, the 29 gallon tank is directly in a window. I did this because as April can tell you all, I'm running out of room for tanks :D It's working out WONDERFULLY. I keep the blinds open and only occasionally turn on the tank lighting so the little ones are totally responsive to natural light - they go to sleep when it gets dark out and they wake up slowly and gradually as the sun comes up. The window faces north and apartment buildings so they never get direct light. It works just great.

Because they would be so "exposed" in the window, I didn't want to have a completely open tank - at the sign of the first seagull or crow flying by the window, I didn't want them jumping out!! My other discus tanks are b/b so I compromised and used moss balls, a couple of potted plants, and a few odd pieces of driftwood. That's also working well - cleanup is a breeze and the tank has plenty of hiding and exploring places for the fish, plus they get to hunt for their food which is cool to watch.

Okay - enough about me..........here are the beasties from this morning. And yes, they are ALWAYS this active ;) They are beautiful little fish and I hope I'm doing alright by them. Dale, please let me know what you think. I'm feeding 4 times/day, and 2 25% waterchages a day as well.

Without further delay......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9NbqWsHHqw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2eUOPYFbRg

Thanks for watching, folks :)

If it isn't broken , don't fix it Shelly :-) They look wonderful and are eating and growing....so keep up the good work. I didn't realize you got a few of the "younger batch" as well. Those... keep an eye on !! There always is a hierarchal feeding pattern set with small Discus ( the larger fish eat and bully the small ones off the food ) So, please make sure those younger fish are getting enough food as they can become stunted very quickly

[dalejordan]

Here Shelly, just for you :-) Here's Mom and Dad with a batch on their back. This is always how I've raised Discus....two spawns artificial, one spawn natural ( kinda as their rest time )

Enjoy your babies Shelly !!!

[dean9922]

Have I mentioned I am pretty excited about getting these little beauties....
2 more sleeps to go and they will be here......whoo hoo......
I just know they are going to love prince george....

p.s. my discus empire is growing....lol

[luckyfind]

Great job and nic tank Shelley.

Hey Dean did April send those babies by pony express or what? lol.

Laurence

[dean9922]

LMAO....Laurence....I have been out of town working the last 3 weeks pretty much, so I will be getting them this week....that was funny....and as always, April was very kind and accomodating to hold them for me till then...
I am going to be in Kelowna for a family reunion july 23 weekend...send me a PM with your phone number and I will try to give you a call and stop over for a bit if you are around....

[luckyfind]

pm sent. Be nice to meet up for sure.

[Embersmom]

Today's update on the kids............

These fish go go go go go go go ALL THE TIME!!!!! I have to be really careful when I walk into the room in the middle of the night because they see my shadow and jump out of the tank.....silly fish :) I have 11 - 6 larger and 5 smaller. They are all very different. There are 2 that I'm really interested in. They look quite different from the rest; one is really dark and the other has absolutely perfectly straight lines and ruby red eyes. They are all beautiful little fish.

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[plecocicho]

Very nice pups! How old are they now, how big are they, what is their feeding schedule, wc regime, tank size and filtration?

[kaceyo]

They're filling out nicely. The green metalic sheen really comes out in the last few pics. What light are you using in those pics. Actinic maybe?

[dean9922]

hey Shelley...those fish look beautiful.....sure wish I had some.......OH WAIT
I DO HAVE SOME........lol
they sure are awesome little guys aren't they. I enjoy all my fish, but these ones are really something and DO eat like pigs....I sit in front of the tank and find myself fascinated by them.....I also find it funny how they seem to have a pecking order already even at the size they are.........very excited to see what they become....
another funny note is that I have my wife trained to do water changes daily when I am out of town....she has never done anything with my fish other then look at them and feed them the odd time....lol....she is even telling ME that "they seem to be growing" hahahaha
good luck with yours and I will post some pictures soon of mine......

[April]

i kept two. they are in with my german red turks. so part of the big group. i think they are gonna catch up to them. they sure show alot more colour than the turks . illhave to try get a pic of mine soon..hard tank to take a pic in.

[dalejordan]

Please post some pictures you guys :-) I debating on continuing with this cross and would love to see how they progress as I didn't keep any back for myself ...duhh ;-(

I do have a small batch that will be ready to go in about three weeks ( via April ) If your interested in any, please give her a call :-)

thanks again

[dean9922]

What do you mean you kept two of them April.....I would have bought those to.....lol
also, you bet Dale, I will post some soon.......they are beauties......

[luckyfind]

Ok Dean what is the hold up with the pics,waiting for them to be full grown.lol

[luckyfind]

Dale how are the japura young ones doing,any update or pics?

[Embersmom]

Will post updated pics tomorrow - I promise! Taking a "fish day" off work :)
Shelley

[Embersmom]

Ok Dean what is the hold up with the pics,waiting for them to be full grown.lol

Yeah, Dean.......quit holding out on us ;)

[luckyfind]

Shelly it will be nice to see the growth diff from the last posted pics.
Laurence

[dean9922]

soon.....out of town (kitimat) until tomorrow.....wife is babysitting the little darlings....lol
will post some this weekend.....

[April]

i will try get a pic of mine..but..hard..mine are in with all the red turks..they are catching up. one is gonna be a beauty for sure.
send em over dale..ill sell em no worries..or keep and grow...the one nice thing about them is they have pattern all over their bodies..and lots of blue showing..so they will colour up alot faster than the german red turks.

[ockyra215]

Hey Dale any of these beautys left? Do you still have the pair going?
And any coming to the States? Let me know. Thanks Dave:D

[dean9922]

my camera is acting up....or my computer.....not sure....
hope to have some pictures up soon......
on a positive note...they are growing.....

[Embersmom]

Poor Dale - his fish end up with the last people left on earth who can't take decent shots/videos of their fish ;)

So I decided to experiment ........
Out of the 11 that I originally got, 10 survived; one jumped out of the tank.
Out of those 10, 6 were from the first batch and 4 were from the second.

Last week, I removed the 6 largest and split them between the domestic and wild tanks. The 4 smallest were kept in the grow-out tank by themselves.

Here are the smallest (and they ARE small). They aren't like the larger ones at all. Very timid and shy and like to hide in the plants. They don't often come out, even at feeding time. They are also VERY fussy eaters and quite often will not eat the same food twice and have no problem going on hunger strikes until they get something they prefer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_Y3Z7onnnI

These three are in with the domestics and they are awesome. The largest is in fact the biggest of the bunch of them. They eat everything and anything. There is definately a pecking order in the domestic tank, but they don't have any problems filling their bellies!! And before anyone comments, yes, I WAS too lazy to make my bed today!!! This tank sits at the foot of my bed and as you can all see, the bed is a mess :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_h4FCMO-wM

Then there are the ones with the wild bunch. These are my favorite to watch because my wilds are SOOOO different from my domestics. There doesn't seem to be any pecking order with these guys and if there is, I can't see it. Maybe because I feed them so much that they all eat whenever they feel like it, but the little ones are right at the top of the tank with the big ones at feeding time. And the little guys are very clever too. They know if the bigger discus grab a mouth full of floating food, they spit it out so the little guys wait for them to do just that and then they steal their food! The wilds are also much more protective of the littles ones. Dale, did you see how protective the heckel is with the little guys ;););) - she's gonna make a GREAT mom; I just know it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGxqYNcHawQ

[dalejordan]

Poor Dale - his fish end up with the last people left on earth who can't take decent shots/videos of their fish ;)

So I decided to experiment ........
Out of the 11 that I originally got, 10 survived; one jumped out of the tank.
Out of those 10, 6 were from the first batch and 4 were from the second.

Last week, I removed the 6 largest and split them between the domestic and wild tanks. The 4 smallest were kept in the grow-out tank by themselves.

Here are the smallest (and they ARE small). They aren't like the larger ones at all. Very timid and shy and like to hide in the plants. They don't often come out, even at feeding time. They are also VERY fussy eaters and quite often will not eat the same food twice and have no problem going on hunger strikes until they get something they prefer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_Y3Z7onnnI

These three are in with the domestics and they are awesome. The largest is in fact the biggest of the bunch of them. They eat everything and anything. There is definately a pecking order in the domestic tank, but they don't have any problems filling their bellies!! And before anyone comments, yes, I WAS too lazy to make my bed today!!! This tank sits at the foot of my bed and as you can all see, the bed is a mess :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_h4FCMO-wM

Then there are the ones with the wild bunch. These are my favorite to watch because my wilds are SOOOO different from my domestics. There doesn't seem to be any pecking order with these guys and if there is, I can't see it. Maybe because I feed them so much that they all eat whenever they feel like it, but the little ones are right at the top of the tank with the big ones at feeding time. And the little guys are very clever too. They know if the bigger discus grab a mouth full of floating food, they spit it out so the little guys wait for them to do just that and then they steal their food! The wilds are also much more protective of the littles ones. Dale, did you see how protective the heckel is with the little guys ;););) - she's gonna make a GREAT mom; I just know it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGxqYNcHawQ

Just got home and trying to catch up on lawn, greenhouse, fish, emails, mail, kids blah blah blah :-)

Shelly PLEASE be careful with putting these younger fish with your larger. Just like the "4 younger second batch" fish that suffered, these may get stunted now that they are in with larger !! I think I'd still keep the 6 larger in a tank by themselves and continue to power feed....just a suggestion :-)

[dalejordan]

Hey Dale any of these beautys left? Do you still have the pair going?
And any coming to the States? Let me know. Thanks Dave:D

You bet buddy, I will be producing BOTH the PURE Japura and the royal Japura, brilliant cross ( like you see in these videos :-)

HOPEFULLY, we will have young for the end of Oct. and will be shipped out of Philadelphia. I will explain much more once I get my website etc together. DON'T PANIC everyone, I will be shipping into the US at NO EXTRA cost, NO USFW fees etc. The fish will be priced and shipped from Philly just as if they were raised there :-)

ONCE AGAIN...... I'm taking pre-orders, I'm open for questions and willing to help, and my phone number is (204) 668 9780. My direct email is.

dtb. jordan @ shaw .ca

I was told to space it out for security reasons...LOL. I would PREFER to take orders by phone and will be willing to call you as I have a KILLER long distance plan( on my dime so to speak and like I said before....I hate typing :-)

[Embersmom]

Just got home and trying to catch up on lawn, greenhouse, fish, emails, mail, kids blah blah blah :-)

Shelly PLEASE be careful with putting these younger fish with your larger. Just like the "4 younger second batch" fish that suffered, these may get stunted now that they are in with larger !! I think I'd still keep the 6 larger in a tank by themselves and continue to power feed....just a suggestion :-)

No worries, Dale. I'll scoop em back into the grow-out tank tonight! Thanks for the suggestion; I appreciate it.
Shelley

[luckyfind]

Love that first tank video Shelley.
Laurence

[kaceyo]

Hey Dale,
Have you got any pics of the pure Japura offspring you could post? I've been waiting to see some of those guys grow up.
Thanks,

[dalejordan]

Hey Dale,
Have you got any pics of the pure Japura offspring you could post? I've been waiting to see some of those guys grow up.
Thanks,

Sorry no :-( That was the spawn that was mostly lost when I was on my last holiday. I just pulled a spawn yesterday and will photo as it goes along for ya :-)

[kaceyo]

Sorry no :-( That was the spawn that was mostly lost when I was on my last holiday. I just pulled a spawn yesterday and will photo as it goes along for ya :-)

Yes, I remember. Good to hear you have another spawn going now and I'm looking forward to the pics.
Thanks,

[Eddie]

Sorry no :-( That was the spawn that was mostly lost when I was on my last holiday. I just pulled a spawn yesterday and will photo as it goes along for ya :-)


Hey there Dale, hows that batch doing?

Hope all is well,

Eddie

[April]

they are at my house. : ) im just gonna grow em for now..the other ones from the last batch are getting pretty big and nice. i only kept two of those ones.
dale is now..gearing up for production..soon he will be in a snowbank..and horrible weather..he wont have anything better to do. lol. hopefully the pairs will feel the same way.

[Eddie]

they are at my house. : ) im just gonna grow em for now..the other ones from the last batch are getting pretty big and nice. i only kept two of those ones.
dale is now..gearing up for production..soon he will be in a snowbank..and horrible weather..he wont have anything better to do. lol. hopefully the pairs will feel the same way.

NICE!!!

[dalejordan]

NICE!!!

Almost there buddy. Hopefully will have website up soon :-)

[Eddie]

Almost there buddy. Hopefully will have website up soon :-)


I'm excited my friend! Will be sending your stuff out tomorrow, the Typhoon here had everything shut down. ;)

Take care buddy,

Eddie

[kaceyo]

they are at my house. : ) im just gonna grow em for now..the other ones from the last batch are getting pretty big and nice. i only kept two of those ones.
dale is now..gearing up for production..soon he will be in a snowbank..and horrible weather..he wont have anything better to do. lol. hopefully the pairs will feel the same way.

So now I have to keep buggin YOU for pics of the lil' guys? How big are they now?

[April]

well..the pic will have to wait..they are in an old plexi tank outback..outside actually..in a covered area..with all the alex piwowarski turks. the tank is covered in algae..also..from so much sun shining through the corrugated plastic roof. lol. but..they are growing great..shape is good. lots of blue striations showing.they eat only beefheart mix and devour it . maybe ill move em in soon to a different tank and try get a pic.

[luckyfind]

Dale do you have an ETA on the website? Good luck with the new spawn.

[dalejordan]

Well, as most of you know my knowledge of computers consists of knowing how to turn it on and off ...LOL

I was going to save this as a " separate " thread, but now's a better time than any. My original US distributor was unable to commit the time I asked for, so without hesitation.....Kenny, AKA "Acroken" has stepped up to the plate !! Of course, just like any new introduction to a person, we tend to take things slowly and cautiously. Well, Kenny and I have REALLY hit it off !! We have mutual interests and we both can talk freely as if we have known each other a lifetime. With that said, he has taken the responsibility of the website and hit it HEAD ON and I have NO DOUBT that it will be incredible !!! In terms of a completion date....I do not want to push him. I spent two solid days last week photographing everything I'd like in the website, so they are now in his capable hands !!

So to you Kenny...someone once said "Silent gratitude isn’t much use to anyone". So, THANKS Pal for your help and patience !!!!

[ashaysathe]

I take the honor to be the first on the thread to Congratulate both of you.

There is nothing better than 2 needful meeting together - well this time much to the benefit of folks in NE area with respect to accessibility of fish.

Great work guys and good luck on the new venture.

[Eddie]

Well, as most of you know my knowledge of computers consists of knowing how to turn it on and off ...LOL

I was going to save this as a " separate " thread, but now's a better time than any. My original US distributor was unable to commit the time I asked for, so without hesitation.....Kenny, AKA "Acroken" has stepped up to the plate !! Of course, just like any new introduction to a person, we tend to take things slowly and cautiously. Well, Kenny and I have REALLY hit it off !! We have mutual interests and we both can talk freely as if we have known each other a lifetime. With that said, he has taken the responsibility of the website and hit it HEAD ON and I have NO DOUBT that it will be incredible !!! In terms of a completion date....I do not want to push him. I spent two solid days last week photographing everything I'd like in the website, so they are now in his capable hands !!

So to you Kenny...someone once said "Silent gratitude isn’t much use to anyone". So, THANKS Pal for your help and patience !!!!


Hell yes! Kenny is the man with a plan! Definitely a person that I would enjoy working with. I have to admit, I think this combination is going to be explosive! It's going to kick this hobby something BIG!!!

Goodluck Dale and Kenny and I am anxious to see how this endevour progresses.

Eddie

[Ed13]

Hell yes! Kenny is the man with a plan! Definitely a person that I would enjoy working with. I have to admit, I think this combination is going to be explosive! It's going to kick this hobby something BIG!!!

Goodluck Dale and Kenny and I am anxious to see how this endevour progresses.

Eddie
Once again, I agree with Eddie!

[April]

congrats kenny acroken. you wont be disappointed..and im sure dale will love his new website. cant wait to see it !!!!

[acroken]

I am very excited about this venture. I have admired Dale's work in the industry for years. He has a awesome plan and is working with the most beautiful wilds I have ever seen. Just to think that soon f2's of these wilds will be available for all of us,unbelievable. Dale is one of the nicest guys i have ever met. He is a perfectionist and we soon will see that first hand. I sectioned off an area of my new fish room for this. No other fish will be in this room. All new equipment and the only fish that will ever be in these tanks are Dale's. The plan here is that Dale will ship these fish to me to fill any orders he has received from the states. I will acclimate the shipment, give them a few days to settle and fill their bellies then get them ready to ship out. I will handle the communication with the customer. Set up the best and most cost effective shipment, which for the most part will be through Fed Ex. Arrange with the customer the best and most convenient delivery date and follow through to see these little guys are safe in their new home. I am not going to cut any corners. The only thing that matters is the shipment arrives safe and sound. I have my work cut out for me with the website. I have never designed or built a website before. I have been making some progress, wish me luck! Everything else is in line with fish and wildlife and my import license. I want to thank Dale for giving me this opportunity. Going to be a whole lot of fun, can not wait.

Kenny

[Eddie]

Thats what I'm talking about! Wilds...they are nice but lets get into the juvenile offspring, holy mackerel. Would buy them by the dozens! Can't wait to see the excitement! ;)

[ashaysathe]

I am very excited about this venture. I have admired Dale's work in the industry for years. He has a awesome plan and is working with the most beautiful wilds I have ever seen. Just to think that soon f2's of these wilds will be available for all of us,unbelievable. Dale is one of the nicest guys i have ever met. He is a perfectionist and we soon will see that first hand. I sectioned off an area of my new fish room for this. No other fish will be in this room. All new equipment and the only fish that will ever be in these tanks are Dale's. The plan here is that Dale will ship these fish to me to fill any orders he has received from the states. I will acclimate the shipment, give them a few days to settle and fill their bellies then get them ready to ship out. I will handle the communication with the customer. Set up the best and most cost effective shipment, which for the most part will be through Fed Ex. Arrange with the customer the best and most convenient delivery date and follow through to see these little guys are safe in their new home. I am not going to cut any corners. The only thing that matters is the shipment arrives safe and sound. I have my work cut out for me with the website. I have never designed or built a website before. I have been making some progress, wish me luck! Everything else is in line with fish and wildlife and my import license. I want to thank Dale for giving me this opportunity. Going to be a whole lot of fun, can not wait.

Kenny

Congratulations Kenny. I wish you all the very best for the venture. Dale is a gr8 guy, very knowledeable and so are you. Its a perfect collaboation. I wish nothing but success to both of you.
Can't wait for the website.

[dalejordan]

Thank you ALL for your support !! Ken and I are looking forward to supplying only THE BEST from my stock and MAKING SURE our customers are satisfied every step of the way :-)

Looking forward

Dale

[kaceyo]

I've always wanted the opportunity to buy young F1 RSG's from nice wild parents. Maybe I'll finaly get my chance.:p
Congrats on your merger, hope it works out great for both of you.

[aequifasciatus]

Well done Dale and Kenny. Any partnership that can bring wild discus offspring to us is most welcome.
Where's that fishroom video Dale? :) :) :)

Aequifasciatus

[Discus-n00b]

This is gonna be awesome lol, congrats Dale and Kenny sounds like a great partnership. More quality (not to mention offspring of wilds) for the US....can't wait.