seachem safe

[utiliy]

where is that thread at...wanting to try some out-but need to know how much to add...no measuring device with it....what to use?
and yes it smells like rotten eggs...lols...

[Eddie]

where is that thread at...wanting to try some out-but need to know how much to add...no measuring device with it....what to use?
and yes it smells like rotten eggs...lols...

1/4 tsp per 50 gallons.

[Jennie]

I was reading up on that and believe it says not to overdose, so be careful

[utiliy]

i read that also-but from i hear / told from the seachem safe thread-u can overdose with prime also.

[nc0gnet0]

i read that also-but from i hear / told from the seachem safe thread-u can overdose with prime also.

It's just alot harder to do with prime as it is in a diluted form. If you like, and you have an old empty bottle of prime (250 mL size), you can add 12 1/2 teaspoons to the bottle and top of the rest with distilled or RODI water and shake well. Whala, a fresh bottle of prime at the same strength/dosing per bottle. I do this and use it on my smaller tanks and for decholirinating bleach soaked/rinsed equipment.

[utiliy]

same dosage amount i take it? capful per 50g?

[Jennie]

BUT seachem safe does not have stabilizers in it like prime does so therefore cannot be made in batches or stored. here is the link
http://www.seachem.com/support/FAQs/Safe.html






It's just alot harder to do with prime as it is in a diluted form. If you like, and you have an old empty bottle of prime (250 mL size), you can add 12 1/2 teaspoons to the bottle and top of the rest with distilled or RODI water and shake well. Whala, a fresh bottle of prime at the same strength/dosing per bottle. I do this and use it on my smaller tanks and for decholirinating bleach soaked/rinsed equipment.

[nc0gnet0]

Yup. The prime bottle states " 250 mL treats 2500 gallons"

Safe bottle states "1 teaspoon treats 200 gallons"

So 12 teaspoons of safe equals 2400 gallons plus 1/2 teaspoon equals 100 gallons. 2400 plus 100 equals 2500 gallons which is the same concentration as the prime 250 mL bottle. Then just use the refilled bottle of prime as directed on the prime bottle.

[nc0gnet0]

I have never had a problem, but you must use distilled water.

[Jennie]

+

link pasted in my post

[nc0gnet0]

I seen that, I had replied before your edit thus making me edit my post :D

[Jennie]

The difference between this and prime is that prime neutralizes the nitrites and nitrates in addition and sure can be a lifesaver when those are detected in the water. Buys u time if you can't change water immediately

[Jennie]

lol I saw it and then it was gone. Oh well, thought I was seeing things or not. May have to mix "me"self a drink today!

I seen that, I had replied before your edit thus making me edit my post :D

[nc0gnet0]

The difference between this and prime is that prime neutralizes the nitrites and nitrates in addition and sure can be a lifesaver when those are detected in the water. Buys u time if you can't change water immediately

So does Safe.....read the bottle, there is no difference. I would imagine seachem doe not recomend mixing with water as if you use tap, there is no way they can tell what is in the water and how it would react over time.

I have tested mine over a period of a few months and it still removed chlorine just fine, verified by testing.

[Jennie]

I'm going by what seachem stated, that safe removes chlorine, chlorimine and ammo. I don't have the bottle, but if yours says that on the bottle, I might give it a try myself, if it is more cost effective than prime! I'll stop by lfs today and check it out if they carry it.


So does Safe.....read the bottle, there is no difference. I would imagine seachem doe not recomend mixing with water as if you use tap, there is no way they can tell what is in the water and how it would react over time.

I have tested mine over a period of a few months and it still removed chlorine just fine, verified by testing.

[nc0gnet0]

Get with David Rose from IGO pro one of our sponsors, he carries the stuff and it is hugely more economical that prime.

http://www.igopro-online.com/default.asp

Most LFS's don't carry SAFE.

[Jennie]

I will contact him. Thanx. If it also removes nitrite and nitrate, heck yes, but why wouldn't they state that on their website??
Get with David Rose from IGO pro one of our sponsors, he carries the stuff and it is hugely more economical that prime.

http://www.igopro-online.com/default.asp

Most LFS's don't carry SAFE.

[nc0gnet0]

it doesn't remove them it detoxifies them, same as prime.

[Jennie]

Yes sorry that is what I meant to say. But still not specified on website.


it doesn't remove them it detoxifies them, same as prime.

[David Rose]

It is not recommended to reconstitute SAFE given SAFE does not have the stabilizers in it that PRIME does. Check out Seachem's The FAQ link:

http://www.seachem.com/support/FAQs/Safe.html

Hope that helps!
David

[David Rose]

I will contact him. Thanx. If it also removes nitrite and nitrate, heck yes, but why wouldn't they state that on their website??



It does....let me know if I can help in any way!, David

http://www.igopro-online.com/Seachem-SAFE-4K-p/scsafe4k.htm
http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Safe.html


http://www.seachem.com/Products/images/Safe_50g.jpg

Safe
Product Description
Safe™ is the complete and concentrated dry conditioner for both fresh and salt water. Safe™ removes chlorine, chloramine and ammonia. Safe™ converts ammonia into a safe, non-toxic form that is readily removed by the tank’s biofilter. Safe™ may be used during tank cycling to alleviate ammonia/nitrite toxicity. Safe™ detoxifies nitrite and nitrate, allowing the biofilter to more efficiently remove them. Safe™ is non-acidic and will not impact pH. Safe™ will not overactivate skimmers. Use at start-up and whenever adding or replacing water.
Sizes: 10 g, 50 g, 250 g, 1 kg, 4 kg
Why It's Different
Safe™ is the dry version of Prime® (http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Prime.html) and shares all of it’s advantages; however, Safe™ is even more concentrated than Prime® (http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Prime.html).
Directions
To remove…
http://www.seachem.com/images/arrow_small_black.jpg Chlorine: use 1 measure to each 60 L (15 gallons*) of tap water (removes 1 ppm).
http://www.seachem.com/images/arrow_small_black.jpgChloramine: use 1 measure to each 75 L (20 gallons*) of tap water (removes 1 ppm).
http://www.seachem.com/images/arrow_small_black.jpgAmmonia: use 1 measure to each 11 L (3 gallons*) of tap water (removes 1 ppm). Do not overdose!
For reference, 1 measure = 100 mg. To detoxify nitrite/nitrate in an emergency situation use up to 5 measures to each 40 L (10 gallons). Use fish to gauge toxicity reduction as test kits will still show presence of nitrite/nitrate even when detoxified. May be added to aquarium directly, but is better if added to new water first. If adding directly to aquarium, base dose on aquarium volume. If temperature is > 30 C (86 F) cut dosing in half.

[David Rose]

1/4 tsp per 50 gallons.


+1 unless you have elevated levels of ammonia, chlorine, nitrites, nitrates respectfully.

[Jennie]

thanks david, I WAS ging to contact you, then remembered you have your own problems right now. I will order some shortly, local stores don't carry. will likely have alot more questions as well


Than
It does....let me know if I can help in any way!, David

http://www.igopro-online.com/Seachem-SAFE-4K-p/scsafe4k.htm
http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Safe.html


http://www.seachem.com/Products/images/Safe_50g.jpg

Safe
Product Description
Safe™ is the complete and concentrated dry conditioner for both fresh and salt water. Safe™ removes chlorine, chloramine and ammonia. Safe™ converts ammonia into a safe, non-toxic form that is readily removed by the tank’s biofilter. Safe™ may be used during tank cycling to alleviate ammonia/nitrite toxicity. Safe™ detoxifies nitrite and nitrate, allowing the biofilter to more efficiently remove them. Safe™ is non-acidic and will not impact pH. Safe™ will not overactivate skimmers. Use at start-up and whenever adding or replacing water.
Sizes: 10 g, 50 g, 250 g, 1 kg, 4 kg
Why It's Different
Safe™ is the dry version of Prime® (http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Prime.html) and shares all of it’s advantages; however, Safe™ is even more concentrated than Prime® (http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Prime.html).
Directions
To remove…
http://www.seachem.com/images/arrow_small_black.jpg Chlorine: use 1 measure to each 60 L (15 gallons*) of tap water (removes 1 ppm).
http://www.seachem.com/images/arrow_small_black.jpgChloramine: use 1 measure to each 75 L (20 gallons*) of tap water (removes 1 ppm).
http://www.seachem.com/images/arrow_small_black.jpgAmmonia: use 1 measure to each 11 L (3 gallons*) of tap water (removes 1 ppm). Do not overdose!
For reference, 1 measure = 100 mg. To detoxify nitrite/nitrate in an emergency situation use up to 5 measures to each 40 L (10 gallons). Use fish to gauge toxicity reduction as test kits will still show presence of nitrite/nitrate even when detoxified. May be added to aquarium directly, but is better if added to new water first. If adding directly to aquarium, base dose on aquarium volume. If temperature is > 30 C (86 F) cut dosing in half.

[David Rose]

thanks david, I WAS ging to contact you, then remembered you have your own problems right now. I will order some shortly, local stores don't carry. will likely have alot more questions as well


Than


Hi DiscusLover65,

No problems here.... contact me if I can help.

Thanks
David

[utiliy]

david is the sponsor i got it off of....he got back with me. im just trying safe out-been using prime since day 1...about 10 years now.

[Eddie]

david is the sponsor i got it off of....he got back with me. im just trying safe out-been using prime since day 1...about 10 years now.


Big money savings, I'm telling you! Hundreds of dollars a year and if you have a large operation, I'm sure it will save you thousands!

Eddie

[utiliy]

thx eddie...i still havent used it yet-kind of one of those things thats new and scared to lols. trying to decide just what tank i want to use it for too. as of right now-not a big operation, but getting another tank. so add a 135 more gallons to the hobby.

[David Rose]

thx eddie...i still havent used it yet-kind of one of those things thats new and scared to lols. trying to decide just what tank i want to use it for too. as of right now-not a big operation, but getting another tank. so add a 135 more gallons to the hobby.


Safe is just Prime in powder form and without the stabilizers... no need to worry... your safe with SAFE :p

[utiliy]

well-i used the safe...when im done with the prime-ill be ordering more from u david!
i used it in 3 tanks...im looking at big money savings with the safe.
as for the bad odor-it was just around for a few minutes...i used it before my fiance got home, just in case it really stunk.
the fish didnt know the diffrence.

[David Rose]

well-i used the safe...when im done with the prime-ill be ordering more from u david!
i used it in 3 tanks...im looking at big money savings with the safe.
as for the bad odor-it was just around for a few minutes...i used it before my fiance got home, just in case it really stunk.
the fish didnt know the diffrence.


Try stocking a number of bottles and buckets for your customers....LOL! I notice it when I get my shipments in, but it fades quickly.

[David Rose]

Try stocking a number of bottles and buckets for your customers....LOL! I notice it when I get my shipments in, but it fades quickly.

Correction ...the smell fades quickly while stored, but when you reopen the container...Whewww! LOL :D

[utiliy]

ive been using it off and on-trying to use all the prime up...either im used to it-or i dont have the container open long.
im down to half the bottle i purchased from u david-but have 3 bottles of prime to use up.
when im done with the prime-i will be ordering more from u.

[David Rose]

Sounds good... enjoy the rest of your summer!

[peterhql]

i just opened up the first bottle i got from you david. you think if i left it open outside for a month the smell would go away?? im scared to do it again. lol :shocked:

[David Rose]

i just opened up the first bottle i got from you david. you think if i left it open outside for a month the smell would go away?? im scared to do it again. lol :shocked:

LOL... one hand to pinch the nose...one hand to open the jar and so on...