show us your runt!!!!

[roundfishross]

it was suggested so i figured hey why not:D
this little guy is about 6 mos and littlie over 2 inches. I swear i only let him hang around because i havnt figured out what the heck it is, the parents are both lss. any suggestions as to what type of discus this is. its always only had one stress bar:confused:


http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/2a0e0840.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/c7b2d652.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/efb62983.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/5e112329.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/745c3326.jpg

[Discus master]

It is weird not stunted only a runt huh how interesting he seems to have a nice round shape in my opion and the eyes are proportinate just that he did not grow but not stunted. So there is a big diference between stunded fish and simply a runt?

I have no idea what kind of discus he is but if both the parents are lss then thats what he has to be then rite? poor little guys cute the the dawrf discus hey a new strain for smaller aquariums perhaps?

[roundfishross]

actually this pair threw four types of fry, leops, lss ,golden lss , and these weirdo's. all grew well with this exception. the two lss i kept from the batch are over 4 inches now

[Discus master]

actually this pair threw four types of fry, leops, lss ,golden lss , and these weirdo's. all grew well with this exception. the two lss i kept from the batch are over 4 inches now

thats carzy i did not know that could happen hmm.

[DiscusKev]

DM:

LSS don't throw off consistent offspring, they will always throw 9 to 14 bars fish. Off course, bloodline plays a role too...

Here is my opinion for that runt of yours.

That fish has a rather short gill plate, body shape is what should be seen in a 1 month old fish, eyes isn't TOO big, but is big for that size. 6 Months old and it is 2 inches, sure is a strange runt.

[LizStreithorst]

Gosh, he's a cute little guy. I would call him a leopard. I see bars but except for the eye bar they're red, not black.

[nc0gnet0]

Ok I'll bite :p

Checkerboard Turq

Could'nt get the little guy to stop moving, he's actually pretty round, his forward movement makes him look more swept.

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/runt/runt2.jpg?t=1280357021


http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/runt/runt1.jpg?t=1280357236


This little guy was purchased at a size of 2" in early December of last year along with 9 others by another simply member. I puchased them from him in may of this year. All others are in the 5-6 inch range while this guy is stuck at 2-2.5 inches give or take a hair. He has a gret appetite and a nice little belly on him, and I was told he always more than got his share of food, just never grew.

[Eddie]

Runt or not, that little turkey is pretty cute. I like his color and he seems happy as a hippo.

Eddie

[birdog]

That is good looking turk there.

Hey, hippos are not really happy animals, they kill thousands of people every year.
I know I know, I'm a smart alec.:D

[Eddie]

That is good looking turk there.

Hey, hippos are not really happy animals, they kill thousands of people every year.
I know I know, I'm a smart alec.:D

I don't know dude, they seem pretty happy to me, whole family chillin in the water, relaxing and spitting water. They probably kill thousands of people because the people are messing with their happiness! :D LOL

[Ibenu]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/ibenu/orangefella.jpg
still looking for a pic of my bulldog blue diamond... HUGE eye.. bright bright body:) Enjoy my orange fella

[April]

lisa..great pic to use for eye to body ratio education..you can fit 3 eyes if lucky. one of your rescues i presume..

[Ibenu]

Of course April!! Saving up my money for some sweet looking fishies! He's the smaller of two. Larger one is still in safe zone... Now to rehome all my big eyes!! Sad you have educated bcaquaria so much other wise my "rare" tang discus (read long nose ) and unicorn melon (read broken /deformed rays) would go like hot cakes over there!

[DiscusKev]

Of course April!! Saving up my money for some sweet looking fishies! He's the smaller of two. Larger one is still in safe zone... Now to rehome all my big eyes!! Sad you have educated bcaquaria so much other wise my "rare" tang discus (read long nose ) and unicorn melon (read broken /deformed rays) would go like hot cakes over there!

Meet the Rhino Discus, yea I know I know, super duper old thread :D

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?t=76211&highlight=rhino+discus

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?t=74772&highlight=rhino+discus

Ibenu, if the fish is still in your hand, can you post a pic of them :o

[Ibenu]

I will be sure to post my orphans on the HIdeous discus thread :) lest I take us to far off the runt topic with my fugly fish

[kaceyo]

This little guy looks like a throwback to a Ghost to me. The subdued colors and half eye bar are def Ghost traits. You say you have full size fish with this color pattern? I'd like to see them.
it was suggested so i figured hey why not:D
this little guy is about 6 mos and littlie over 2 inches. I swear i only let him hang around because i havnt figured out what the heck it is, the parents are both lss. any suggestions as to what type of discus this is. its always only had one stress bar:confused:


http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/2a0e0840.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/c7b2d652.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/efb62983.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/5e112329.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/745c3326.jpg

[roundfishross]

kaceyo i do not have any more of these i only kept the one out of curiosity. and sadly i have lost the male of the pair that produced him. both of the parents were regular lss from mike b

regards RFR


oh i do have two siblings to this fish they are both 16 bar lss and approaching 4.5 inches will post pics

[tcyiu]

Here's my very first discus. Actually, he killed the red melon I bought at the same time. (I bought two fish as a trial - this was way before I discovered Simply). In the 2.5 years I had him, he went through 3 very serious illnesses, each time reduced to lying on his side at the bottom of the hospital tank. He recovered from two of those, but succumbed to the last bout.

The little kids called him Blue Berry. He was number two in the pecking order (after I bought more). Never grew beyond 4 inches. Healthy and happy most of the time. Never bothered anybody and was never picked on despite being small.

Finally he just quit eating and whithered away. This is a picture of when he first arrived for his third and last stay in the hospital tank. He had not eaten for a couple of weeks.

RIP, Blue Berry.

Tim

[Discus-Hans]

Put them all together and maybe you get this:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?t=81420


Hayyyyyyyyyy I'm just kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Hans

[nc0gnet0]

I am curious to here from some of the more expieranced members here which of these fish they consider runts and which ones they consider stunted.

[roundfishross]

heres a few shots of the siblings:D

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/e3dabac9.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/79c963aa.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/6f2cdfbc.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/6672a415.jpg

they reside with my B.k.'s from mike b.
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/20ede040.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/6d7f8d51.jpg

[DiscusKev]

That forehead on that BK look awkward...other than that, they look pretty neat.

[roundfishross]

other bk pics sucked. these will do them a little more justice

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/5c03e487.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/ed4ed930.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/a62d1c09.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/3a9547bb.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/e6b80544.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz326/roundfishross/0a3b4b4a.jpg

[roundfishross]

out of the four of them one has a slight hump it really looks worse in the pics than it is when actually looking at them

[DiscusKev]

Pic 2, 5, 6 is my favorite, love that blue sheen. Very beautiful.

[roundfishross]

Pic 2, 5, 6 is my favorite, love that blue sheen. Very beautiful.

thank you kevin:) although the pics dont really do the blue any justice. these fish GLOW!! they are LOUD!!

[DiscusKev]

thank you kevin:) although the pics dont really do the blue any justice. these fish GLOW!! they are LOUD!!

Even now, I am still looking at the last pic, maybe I got the Wayne Ng fever :o That fish is bulky and the shape is incredible. I'm jealous that UK don't sell Wayne Ng discus (especially the Blue Knight), shipping from overbroad is an option but the fee is too expensive and the location is way beyond my limits.

One person on a website here at UK tried to sell Giant Flora as Blue Knights (also the description made it seem like he really think GF are BK), I had to email that person and tell him the background story, that person is a retailer as well...then the ad got edited.

Anyways...not sure if I mis-read, but is that a runt, doesn't seem like it? I ask because you are posting it on this thread.

[Jennie]

OK, at what size should 4 mo old discus be? I did some old thread research and
at 6 months a discus should be the size of a tennis ball. Now, from reading up on it stunted disus that is adult size, is about the size of a tennis ball with a runted discus being about half that size. Now of my 3 "juvies" and I put that in parenthesis mine are at least 4 months min. and still 2.25 inches or less??? and believe me the water was changed daily and they don't miss a meal

[DiscusKev]

OK, at what size should 4 mo old discus be? I did some old thread research and
at 6 months a discus should be the size of a tennis ball. Now, from reading up on it stunted disus that is adult size, is about the size of a tennis ball with a runted discus being about half that size. Now of my 3 "juvies" and I put that in parenthesis mine are at least 4 months min. and still 2.25 inches or less??? and believe me the water was changed daily and they don't miss a meal

Generally, the growth has to do genetics, some take longer to develop their 'growth spurt'. Strains these days usually follow the growth speed below.

Below is a post that you have seen before, I know because you replied to that thread :)


2.5-3" are about 3 months
3-3.5" are about 3-4 months
4-4.5" are about 5-6.5 months

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showpost.php?p=664567&postcount=8

Even if it is a slow growing strain, I would believe 2.25" for a 4month old discus is rather small. 3" would sound more reasonable.

[Jennie]

thanks Kev, i likely have 1 runt and 2 stunts, lol. Thank gawd their not ugly.



Generally, the growth has to do genetics, some take longer to develop their 'growth spurt'. Strains these days usually follow the growth speed below.

Below is a post that you have seen before, I know because you replied to that thread :)



Even if it is a slow growing strain, I would believe 2.25" for a 4month old discus is rather small. 3" would sound more reasonable.

[roundfishross]

Even now, I am still looking at the last pic, maybe I got the Wayne Ng fever :o That fish is bulky and the shape is incredible. I'm jealous that UK don't sell Wayne Ng discus (especially the Blue Knight), shipping from overbroad is an option but the fee is too expensive and the location is way beyond my limits.

One person on a website here at UK tried to sell Giant Flora as Blue Knights (also the description made it seem like he really think GF are BK), I had to email that person and tell him the background story, that person is a retailer as well...then the ad got edited.

Anyways...not sure if I mis-read, but is that a runt, doesn't seem like it? I ask because you are posting it on this thread.

not runts just in the same tank as the runt, they are all roomies:D just couldnt resist showing off the bk's(got these guys at a really good deal!!!):D

[DiscusKev]

not runts just in the same tank as the runt, they are all roomies:D just couldnt resist showing off the bk's(got these guys at a really good deal!!!):D

That is good to know, you sure got me amazed :D

[Ed13]

This fish is a golden leopard and a throwout from Golden leopard and golden leopard snake intermmediate parents.

You will have four types of fish coming out form intermmediate parents:
Gold leop, gold lss, orginal base lss and orig base leopard.
Some will have face bars since they are from intermmediates.
They are not ghost gene. Up to know i dont think anyone tried to breed Ghost spotted discus.:)

Roundfishross, I'm with dex here, as soon as I saw that pic I thought golden leopard throwback. However, in my opinion, there could very well be ghost genes in the background of this fish coming from the goldens used to create the golden leopard.

[Ibenu]

His "mime" eyebrow is just the best!!!!

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT6HG3zPrjO8EO0zSL6VSnzGiyjyEARE B8kwduqf5vLEgJrNrw&t=1&usg=__sbraiaVEO5qpcWkRrK-NFf4pC98=

[roundfishross]

the glss from the same batch had a totally different base/body color than this guy. that is why i was not sure about this one:D

[kaceyo]

Ghosts were added to many strains to improve shape or clean them up in one way or another. That's why they seem to pop up here and there on strains you wouldn't expect to throw them.

[srusso]

Put them all together and maybe you get this:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?t=81420


Hayyyyyyyyyy I'm just kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Hans

Hans! Buddy, if anyone could make this happen its you! I challenge you to make the smallest, most colorful discus while keeping a great shape! Heck I start taking orders for you right now! Who wants a "Hans Dis-Klein" hahahah ;)

[Discus-Hans]

Hans! Buddy, if anyone could make this happen its you! I challenge you to make the smallest, most colorful discus while keeping a great shape! Heck I start taking orders for you right now! Who wants a "Hans Dis-Klein" hahahah ;)

My friend, you challenge the wrong person, all things like bull dogs, high fin, incl. dwarf Discus is not my thing.

But I can discuss this with Jorg Stendker next time we talk,

Hans

[srusso]

My friend, you challenge the wrong person, all things like bull dogs, high fin, incl. dwarf Discus is not my thing.

But I can discuss this with Jorg Stendker next time we talk,

Hans

Thanks!

[Jennie]

srusso, this will take years to achieve if possible.


Thanks!

[srusso]

srusso, this will take years to achieve if possible.
Maybe... that's why we need to get started! ;)