Discus master
10-07-2010, 02:59 PM
and no I am not talking about your personal medicine cabinent with your pepto and asprin, valum, or percetes either lol. i am talking about your Discus Medicine cabinent???
I want to know primarily from the experts, thoughs who kept discus for a long long time or the breeders what they feel you should have on hand in your discus medicine cabinent. Maybe this is a sticky already some where, or maybe if we get a good response and a good list perhaps Al could make it a sticky as? I think this is an important topic often times it can be to late by the time you get what you need or you have a ton of stuff you do not really need. I think it is important to have the main discus medicines that are common and esential to have on hand.
I will start please add to this list as we go on, give the reason why what the drug is sued for and maybe how it it used, what sucess you have had with it, and I think whats really important is where you can get it. How many of you Discus newbies and me a like have been told by an "expert" what your fish probably has and what it more than likely needs only to go out to pet store after pet store looking for the medicine unable to find it? I know I have there are a lot out there that are very easy to find at your local LFS but there are others that are dificult to find that you should have on hand for sure.
What spwaned this for me anyway is I want to treat for preventitve reasons for nematodes which are intestial worms.. The medicines used to treat for this are dificult to find and you will not find them at your local LFS, yet it seems to be a common illness for Disucs to get.
The fish often stops eating shortly after becomming symptomatic and the medicine often has to be ingestided depending on the drug you get. Well thats no good if one of the first sighn is the fish stopping eating the fish if young will quickly waste away and while your trying to get the medicine only availible on line the damage could be irreversible and produce a stunted fish if you are succesful at treating it in the first place.
I order the Angle Plus flakes, which are great for a QT procedure or a rutine preventitve maintenace before the fish shows sighns of being ill. I say use the flakes they work they are wonderful as a preventitve or a QT procedure but if symptomatic then you need the druf that can be added to the water. I got a hold of David Rose at IGO PRO to get a medication caled Vermisol thats not the drug name thats the brand name. This can be added directly to the water great for treating the fish when they are ill and not eating. I actually like this idea as you know each and every fish is getting the same dose you do not have to worry abut did this fish ete the flakes did that one did they get enough of it or this one will not eat it they hate flakes I do not have time to aclimate them to flakes, so what do you do in this case? You have to order Vermisol or a drug that can be added to the water and trust me folks you are not getting this from the LFS you just not.
So again do you want to have to wait for the medicine to come while you little guys are sick or do you want to have this critical medicine on hand ready to go at a moments notice??
I purposfully left the medicines name out, i want the experts to give their advice and opionons and tells why they think we should stock and what we should stock how it is given and what it works for, also where you can get it.
I think this will be very benifical to the newbies and may even make the pros go and take stock.
On a last note lets not forget there are three main illness categories that illness and diases come from I would like to get medicines from all three so whatever the problem is hopefully more than likely if you keep your fish medicne well stocked you will have it at a moments notice. The three are Bacterial, Fungal, and finally Parastic, lets hit em all.
Also I know people are going to say the best thing to have is a good water change schdule and that along with good diet of various food without over feeding will prevent most of these illness from rearing their ugly head. Yesy this is true but lets aproach this from a stand point of the fish is already ill with whatever illness and this is what you can use to treat when medicines are needed becuase as we know the same thing used to prevent ill ness in the first place is also the thing most often recomended to do in order to treat. Again lets go from the fish is sick and if we should need meds or we want to do some preventitve measures with meds, these are the ones to have and why and where you can get them. Taking into consideration there are those who do not treat unless the fish is ill but lets go with the ones who would like to do some preventive treatments to be proactive. At any rate what should we have??????
And lets get to it
I want to thank everyone in advance for all their input and expertise I hope we get a lot of good information and plenty of responses....... Thanks again DM
I want to know primarily from the experts, thoughs who kept discus for a long long time or the breeders what they feel you should have on hand in your discus medicine cabinent. Maybe this is a sticky already some where, or maybe if we get a good response and a good list perhaps Al could make it a sticky as? I think this is an important topic often times it can be to late by the time you get what you need or you have a ton of stuff you do not really need. I think it is important to have the main discus medicines that are common and esential to have on hand.
I will start please add to this list as we go on, give the reason why what the drug is sued for and maybe how it it used, what sucess you have had with it, and I think whats really important is where you can get it. How many of you Discus newbies and me a like have been told by an "expert" what your fish probably has and what it more than likely needs only to go out to pet store after pet store looking for the medicine unable to find it? I know I have there are a lot out there that are very easy to find at your local LFS but there are others that are dificult to find that you should have on hand for sure.
What spwaned this for me anyway is I want to treat for preventitve reasons for nematodes which are intestial worms.. The medicines used to treat for this are dificult to find and you will not find them at your local LFS, yet it seems to be a common illness for Disucs to get.
The fish often stops eating shortly after becomming symptomatic and the medicine often has to be ingestided depending on the drug you get. Well thats no good if one of the first sighn is the fish stopping eating the fish if young will quickly waste away and while your trying to get the medicine only availible on line the damage could be irreversible and produce a stunted fish if you are succesful at treating it in the first place.
I order the Angle Plus flakes, which are great for a QT procedure or a rutine preventitve maintenace before the fish shows sighns of being ill. I say use the flakes they work they are wonderful as a preventitve or a QT procedure but if symptomatic then you need the druf that can be added to the water. I got a hold of David Rose at IGO PRO to get a medication caled Vermisol thats not the drug name thats the brand name. This can be added directly to the water great for treating the fish when they are ill and not eating. I actually like this idea as you know each and every fish is getting the same dose you do not have to worry abut did this fish ete the flakes did that one did they get enough of it or this one will not eat it they hate flakes I do not have time to aclimate them to flakes, so what do you do in this case? You have to order Vermisol or a drug that can be added to the water and trust me folks you are not getting this from the LFS you just not.
So again do you want to have to wait for the medicine to come while you little guys are sick or do you want to have this critical medicine on hand ready to go at a moments notice??
I purposfully left the medicines name out, i want the experts to give their advice and opionons and tells why they think we should stock and what we should stock how it is given and what it works for, also where you can get it.
I think this will be very benifical to the newbies and may even make the pros go and take stock.
On a last note lets not forget there are three main illness categories that illness and diases come from I would like to get medicines from all three so whatever the problem is hopefully more than likely if you keep your fish medicne well stocked you will have it at a moments notice. The three are Bacterial, Fungal, and finally Parastic, lets hit em all.
Also I know people are going to say the best thing to have is a good water change schdule and that along with good diet of various food without over feeding will prevent most of these illness from rearing their ugly head. Yesy this is true but lets aproach this from a stand point of the fish is already ill with whatever illness and this is what you can use to treat when medicines are needed becuase as we know the same thing used to prevent ill ness in the first place is also the thing most often recomended to do in order to treat. Again lets go from the fish is sick and if we should need meds or we want to do some preventitve measures with meds, these are the ones to have and why and where you can get them. Taking into consideration there are those who do not treat unless the fish is ill but lets go with the ones who would like to do some preventive treatments to be proactive. At any rate what should we have??????
And lets get to it
I want to thank everyone in advance for all their input and expertise I hope we get a lot of good information and plenty of responses....... Thanks again DM