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mugzy213
11-23-2010, 07:22 PM
I have 2 confirmed pairs and for the last 6 months its been nothing but white eggs. pairs are about 3 years old

my tds is 060 ppm. should i drop it lower?

my tap water is 024 ppm out of the tap

i age my water for 24 hours and have limestone in the barrels to bring my tds to 060.

the tanks are 20 gal BB with temp at 83 with a sponge filter. 60% WC daily

diet is Freeze dried black worms 1x daily seafood mix with pro more supplement X1 daily pellets and flakes 1x daily

is there something that im over looking? I am really stumped...


thanks so much for your help!:)

William Palumbo
11-23-2010, 07:31 PM
Cut out the Pro More. TDS should be fine...Bill

nc0gnet0
11-23-2010, 08:09 PM
Is this the same protocal from when the pairs where succesfull? When you say they are confirmed, confirmed by who?

mugzy213
11-23-2010, 08:16 PM
no i changed it, i was before just adding kents r/o right. with great results but i was getting ph swings ..


i have raised 4 batches with these pairs.. for the last 6 months however no such luck:)


ok i will stop the pro more. not good?

nc0gnet0
11-23-2010, 11:09 PM
Personaly I like pro-more, I think I would look at the limestone........With such a low TDS out of the tap, you might want to try and add some seachem neutral regulator to your water with a pinch of RO right, thast should stabilze your ph.

mugzy213
11-23-2010, 11:14 PM
this stuff?
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=seachem+neutral+regulator&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=628546399050298093&ei=r4LsTPTRBoOcsQPkloizDw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDUQ8wIwAw#

also how much would you dose?

thanks again:)

nc0gnet0
11-23-2010, 11:30 PM
That is the stuff, if your doing 50% water changes daily 1/2 dose should be more than enough, and a pinch of RO right....lose the limestone. Worth a shot. ARe you sure your TDS is 24 ppm out of the tap? That is like RO water straight from the tap.........

mugzy213
11-23-2010, 11:41 PM
Yeah, well that what my meter says. I guess it's a good problem to have:)



another question. I use novaqua plus for my de-chor. should i stop using if I start using the neutral regulator?

I am assuming that i should you the regulator in my aging barrels?

thanks

mugzy213
11-27-2010, 01:31 AM
ok its the second day since i have stopped using the limestone.

I am now using kents ro right with the seachem neutral regulator . I have a tds of 75

they just laid eggs about an hour ago... fingers crossed

update: is it normal for the top of the outer edge of the egg to be white?

ill see if i can get a clear picture


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Elite Aquaria
11-27-2010, 08:40 AM
Sometimes it is a good idea to give the pair a 2-3 month break...I normally separate the pairs after they breed consecutively for 4-5 spawns.

mugzy213
11-28-2010, 12:02 AM
Yeah, that's probably my next step. Eggs turned too a complete white out today again. Bummer! Very frustrating.

Thanks for your help!

Fishplants
11-30-2010, 09:19 PM
Cut out the Pro More. TDS should be fine...Bill

Hi Bill,

what is the reason behind cutting out the Pro-More?


Thanks

William Palumbo
11-30-2010, 09:38 PM
It did not work for me...Bill

Fishplants
11-30-2010, 09:41 PM
It did not work for me...Bill

Thanks