Help - discus and panacur

[bowerdvm]

I have a 65 gal planted discus tank that I need to dose with panacur to kill hydra. I know some have had problems with panacur and dosing the water column, I was wondering if you would consider 0.5 ml/10ml a high dose for discus or if a lower dose at first should be attempted.

I was planning to add to a 1 gal jug then add to the tank - allow to stay in for 2 days then do WC to help remove it.

Any suggestions?

[pcsb23]

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Any suggestions?Yes, don't use panacur for this in the water column. Get hold of some flubendazole, much safer and very effective.

[bowerdvm]

do you happen to know a dose I can dose my tank with for flubendazole?

[pcsb23]

Have a look at these papers, the author is using a 5% powder. http://www.inkmkr.com/Fish/FlubendazoleArticle.pdf and http://www.inkmkr.com/Fish/FlubendazoleTreatment.pdf however Noga recommends using at the rate 2mg/litre of the 5% powder, which is less than the above articles author even though Noga cites him.

[bowerdvm]

OK, so now where can I get it? I'm actually a vet and don't have access to this specific med... I got everything else. :)

[pcsb23]

Try here http://www.inkmkr.com/Fish/#anchor1234

fwiw flubendazole is usually found in pig wormers .....

[seanyuki]

You can email Charles Harrison.

You can E-Mail us at: charles@inkmkr.com

order form

http://www.inkmkr.com/Fish/ItemsForSale.html

[bowerdvm]

so once I get the flubendazole from charles what is the reported dose for the water column?

[seanyuki]

Just sharing....

Recommended Dosage

Dr. Roy Yanong, V.M.D. recommends the following for treating fish with internal parasites susceptible to Levamisole HCl:

"In answer to your question, the dosage rate for levamisole in a bath is 2 mg/L (2 ppm) for 24 hours (followed by 70-100% water change, and siphon the bottoms of the tanks), with repeat treatments necessary--retreat in 2-3 weeks, and probably one more time after that. This is regardless of size of fish."

The 2 mg/L dosage rate (of the active ingredient Levamisole) is currently (2007) the level being used by the scientific community. It effectively paralyzes Levamisole susceptible parasites at that concentration. Increasing the dosage level does not seem to have any greater effect. (Another good reason to avoid overdosing.) Paralysis of the worms takes place when that level of Levamisole is present in the host--your fish. Dr. Yanong recommends, whenever possible, trying to diagnose what parasite your fish are harboring prior to treatment. Work with an 'exotic pet' veterinarian, or a fish health specialist to insure you are treating with the right medication.

Dosage Calculation
Some helpful conversions:

For 100% Levamisole HCl in powdered form (Levasole, Soluble Pig wormer):

1 teaspoon = 4 grams
.5 teaspoon = 2 grams
.25 teaspoon = 1 gram
1.0 US Gallon = 3.78 Liters

http://www.loaches.com/Members/shari2/levamisole-hydrochloride-1





so once I get the flubendazole from charles what is the reported dose for the water column?

[bowerdvm]

But was there a dose for flubendazole?

[seanyuki]

I got my Flubendazole from the UK......dosage 0.3g per 30 gallons.

[pcsb23]

According to Dr. Harrison it is 1/4 teaspoon per 20 US gallons of the 10% powder, so 1/2 teaspoon of 5% powder per 20US gallons. If you need this in grams I can weigh it tonight when I am home from London.

[pcsb23]

According to Dr. Harrison it is 1/4 teaspoon per 20 US gallons of the 10% powder, so 1/2 teaspoon of 5% powder per 20US gallons. If you need this in grams I can weigh it tonight when I am home from London.1/2 teaspoon of 5% flubendazole weighs 2 grams.