POTASSIUM PERMANGANATE

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POTASSIUM PERMANGANATE

where do you get.. who has..

i have some new lfs fish i want to treat :)

[LizStreithorst]

I got mine from Jhemco.

[TURQ64]

I get mine from my local Ace Hardware; If they don't have it, (like the last time) they order it in in a few days..Summit brand, big jug, many lietimes of PP cheap...(It is primarily for charging iron filters)

[Skip]

an lfs just told me they use it for net dips.. but he said its controlled substance.. they can't sell it.. but he could give a little but i had to give out the dosage.. LOL>.

speaking of..

what is the dosage

[Lenin]

Cambik has, I bought some from him a while ago, careful it's an oxidizer, my fish took a little while to recover, what are you trying to get rid of?

[roundfishross]

ebay! dirt cheap and enough to last forever

[Skip]

i have plecos and some rams from LFS.. i was thinking about Zapping them just incase

[TURQ64]

1/2 gram for a 75...(76mg per 10 gallon) hardly any at all..and what he said, it's strong stuff.....

[Skip]

1/2 gram for a 75...(76mg per 10 gallon) hardly any at all..and what he said, it's strong stuff.....

crap. . the scale i use is for my 2nd job.. Cocaine Smuggler.. it only measures in KILOs :(

[Lenin]

I already have some in liquid form.

[Skip]

i knew one of ya'll had it.. i was just reading that plecos can carry flukes.. so i wanted to be safe :)

[Lenin]

Anything can carry flukes

[roundfishross]

man you can get a $20 gram scale at any gas station in tha hood here. heck the indian guy even pulled it out and weighed a nickle to proove they work!...lol

[Skip]

Anything can carry flukes

i have lost 2 lfs rams.. i don't know why..

[Lenin]

I used this link for my solution http://bidka.org/pp1.shtml , so 1ml will treat 10 gallons, how much water are you treating?

[Skip]

it would be 40 gallons..

[Lenin]

It can be many things, specially LFS, specially Amazonia, yes I said it, internal and external, I would use something like parasite clear tank buddies if you think is an external or internal parasite. But hard to know if parasite


i have lost 2 lfs rams.. i don't know why..

[Lenin]

I can give you the PP but it's up to you what you think you need to do as far as right treatment.

[Skip]

i tested water.. all is clear... so i could be something else.. they are kind of skittish fish anyways.. i wonder if they are just getting heart attacks.. LOL

[LizStreithorst]

The stuff from Jhemco gives the doseage in teaspoons. 1 t per 50 gallons. Makes it easy for idiots like me.

[Sean Buehrle]

I just purchased some off ebay, was 12.50 for a half pound. Plus free shipping.
I have been wanting to get some for awhile now just to have on hand. It sucks if you really need a med and have to wait for delivery of it.


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[jimg]

If Jehmco don't have what i need i get chems from http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7lIDciNO2UkAZjVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1aWl0aXF oBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA01TWTAxMV8xN zQ-/SIG=11cgiuf8q/EXP=1310967395/**http%3a//www.carolina.com/
To do smaller amounts I use 1.5 grams to 1000 ml warm water. then 100 ml for each 20 gallons is a 2ppm dose for 4-6 hrs
If it's not in a very clean tank or too many fish it most likely will turn brown too fast.

[seanyuki]

Hi Skip.......try here for PP 1 lb for US $8.99 lol :)

http://yourchemicalconnection.com/1-Lb-Potassium-Permanganate-Koi-Fish/M/B0034UCKWE.htm?traffic_src=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=froogle

[Dkarc@Aol.com]

Enjoy:
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffiles/FA/FA02700.pdf

[Sean Buehrle]

Enjoy:
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffiles/FA/FA02700.pdf

LOL

Says mixing pp with formalin can result in explosion or fire.


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[texasdiscusman]

Just go to Graingers skip in Austin.And pick it up and bedone with it.Not that hard to find.LOL

[Skip]

Randy.. Grainger!? really... isn't that like a tool place.. :)

[Cambik]

If you do need some let me know as I have some.

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[texasdiscusman]

Yep I buy it there then give it to Jim John and Gabe.Problem solved then.And it is pure





Randy.. Grainger!? really... isn't that like a tool place.. :)

[rdiscus]

It's found
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/LABCHEM-CHEM-K-PRMNGNT-05N-1L-9MKL3?Pid=search

[LizStreithorst]

Thanks, Ryan. I actually PPd all my fish this morning. Every thing is going fine in 4 tanks. On my 100 gallon, although I cleaned the media in the casister filter, dremoved the drift wood and my plant in a pot, did a good wipe down and a 50% WC, the water turned brown after 1 hour. I didn't get out enough of the organic stuff.

I figured I'd just do it again tomorrow until I read the article. I did a another 50% WC on the tank and redosed. All is still pinky purple and the fish show no signs of stress.

[TURQ64]

I did all my F1's yesterday also....immersion strength for around eight hours (according to Noga, 7.6mg per gal)...I take the sponges out and toss them into one of my sumps so I don't kill off the friendly's...It went great, and everyone's appetite doubled!...

[Larry Bugg]

i have lost 2 lfs rams.. i don't know why..

Probably because LFS rams are crap. JMO. When I was breeding rams I got mine from Oddballfish. I won't ever buy one from a lfs. A lot of people will tell you rams are hard to keep. IMO that is because they bought them at a lfs. From a trusted breeder they aren't hard at all. Just a somewhat short lifespan. Someone in that big Texas club has to be breeding rams??? If I was still breeding them I would send you some but went discus only about 6 months ago.

[LizStreithorst]

Probably because LFS rams are crap. JMO. When I was breeding rams I got mine from Oddballfish. I won't ever buy one from a lfs. A lot of people will tell you rams are hard to keep. IMO that is because they bought them at a lfs. From a trusted breeder they aren't hard at all. Just a somewhat short lifespan. Someone in that big Texas club has to be breeding rams??? If I was still breeding them I would send you some but went discus only about 6 months ago.

Although I would never buy rams from a LFS, I disagree with you, Larry. IMO if you take care of your rams the same as you take care of your Discus, they will be fine. But if you have both in a tank together and there's a problem in the tank, the rams will be the first to tell you. The Discus will appear still perfect and a Ram will die. I found this out when I put something in my tank that turned out to be releasing toxins. After a few weeks, one dead ram, another couple not looking well, Discus looking perfect.

I took the bad thing out and all was well. JMO of course.

[Skip]

well, right now.. my lfs rams and bristle nose are in their own tank.. i will probably order from Snookn21 or Joe Gargas this week :)

thanks liz..
i like the fact i can use RAMS as "canary in a coal mine" for water quality! :)

[Vee]

Rummynose are also good indicators of water quality. Their noses go very pale when something isn't right with the environment. Although I changed my water regularly, I was lazy with the cannister filter, only rinsing out the media and not taking everything out and washing it out. Turns out I had 6 months of gunk a the bottom of the cannister. Once I cleaned it out, the rummynose and everything else in the tank were bright again.

[Skip]

Thanks, Ryan. I actually PPd all my fish this morning. Every thing is going fine in 4 tanks. On my 100 gallon, although I cleaned the media in the casister filter, dremoved the drift wood and my plant in a pot, did a good wipe down and a 50% WC, the water turned brown after 1 hour. I didn't get out enough of the organic stuff.

I figured I'd just do it again tomorrow until I read the article. I did a another 50% WC on the tank and redosed. All is still pinky purple and the fish show no signs of stress.

liz.. did you PP as a precaution.. or as part of a regular maintenance?!