Whats the best soild orange discus fish????

[mattsoccer20]

Hi discus fish keepers. I have been looking for the best soild orange discus fish for my discus tank. I am looking for one this color because my tank is missing that kind of color. So what i wanted to know is what is the best soild orange discus fish? Fire red, marlboro red, pigeon blood, tangerine, or a scarlet? Or if there is another type of discus thats soild orange that i did not list please tell me about it. So if you guys could tell me what kind of discus as the most orange that would be great. Thanks :)

P.S. If you want to list a picture or list where i can get the orange discus that would be great as well. Thanks :)

[judy]

I like red melons.

[Skip]

which one do u like

[mattsoccer20]

I like red melons.
I have a red melon but those are red not orange.


which one do u like
And im not sure witch ones i like. I like marlboro reds because i have seen some really nice orange ones before but im trying to figure out what is the most orange discus. Have any ideas on what kinds of discus are orange?

[DiscusOnly]

Just get yourself some PB millenium gold and feed it with red color enhancer (tetra bits will do). You will end up with an orange discus.

[ExReefer]

Here is a 3R I got from Kenny (same fish, different lighting):

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i75/Monoman1/DSC_0119.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i75/Monoman1/DSC_0165.jpg

[mattsoccer20]

WOW! What is that? I dont know what a 3R is.

[seanyuki]

FYI 3R aka Royal Ruby Red (non-pigeon) created by breeder Chan Kok Eng.

hth

[discuspaul]

Have a look at Flamingos, or variants of Flamingos which some sellers call Super Flamingos.
My avatar is a Flamingo, but that pic was taken a few months ago - it has gotten deeper orange since then.

The 3R's are very nice fish, but the face tends to darken quite greyish when kept under fairly bright lighting - looks like blurred peppering. Breeder/exporter Forrest in Malaysia advises keeping this strain in low light to dissipate the grey, and give them yellower faces.

[discuspaul]

P.S.
FYI - there is a Super Flamingo displayed for rating by Inland Empire Discus in the section Discus University.
That fish has much darker finnage than my Flamingos do., but you might want to have a look.
Regarding my comment above about the grey faces on 3R's. I know from experience - I had some & took them back in to exchange for the Flamingos - their faces had gotten so dirty-looking, they appeared to have been rolling around in a coal bin. LOL

[ExReefer]

Regarding my comment above about the grey faces on 3R's. I know from experience - I had some & took them back in to exchange for the Flamingos - their faces had gotten so dirty-looking, they appeared to have been rolling around in a coal bin. LOL

I did not experience that with my 3R's and I kept them under 54 watts of T5HO lighting. Not the strongest lighting in the world, but not your avg. T8 bulb either.

[discuspaul]

Hey, ExReefer, I certainly didn't intend to downplay 3Rs and I hope you didn't take any offense. It was simply a matter of personal preference with me as to coloration at the time.

I was simply passing on my experience & what the breeder had stated to the importer. The shop I got mine from had them in a bottom tier tank with shaded light, their faces very perfectly yellow when I got them, and in fact I really liked them at the time (as I said above, they're very nice fish).

It was only a few days after I got them in my tank, that they began to discolor and got darker by the day. When I mentioned this to the shopkeeper, it was then that I was told what the breeder had said about them -and the shop voluntarily offered to exchange them.
And wouldn't you know it, when the fish were placed back in the same shady tank, their original coloration returned within a day or two. It was a bit of a strange experience, but my similarly colored Flamingos have not displayed any color change, apart from getting deeper orange as they matured.

[mattsoccer20]

Ok ill have to do some research on those fish. Oh and has any one bought any marlboro reds or fire red discus from hans? If you have can you tell me witch one would be the most orange? Because i have seen some really orange but i have also seen some pretty red. So if you guys could tell me that would be great. Thanks

[seanyuki]

Just my opinion.....red discus seldom turns orange since most flakes/pellets has red enhancer in it and will make the red discus more red....,..a yellow discus fed with red enhancer may turn it to orange perhaps I may be wrong.

[mattsoccer20]

Just my opinion.....red discus seldom turns orange since most flakes/pellets has red enhancer in it and will make the red discus more red....,..a yellow discus fed with red enhancer may turn it to orange perhaps I may be wrong.

Oh ok do you know if discus bio gold pellets or Xtream comunnity flake food has red enhancer in it? Or where would it tell me if it have red enhancer in it? If you could help me out that would be great. Thanks :)

[mattsoccer20]

Oh i just read both my fish foods and the discus bio gold pellets does not say it has any red in it. But the Xtreme community flake food says it has FD&C red #40 selenium yeast in it so does that mean it has red enhancers in it? Please tell me because i have some yellow sunrise and i dont thing i want orange sunrise discus ;)

[seanyuki]

Hikari Discus Bio-Gold has astaxanthin,spirulina,carotene (red enhancer).


Ingredients
Krill meal, silkworm pupa meal, fish meal, cuttlefish meal, dried seaweed meal, starch, brewers dried yeast, spirulina, carotene, astaxanthin, lecithin, dried A. niger fermentation extract, DL-methionine, Vitamin A oil, Vitamin D3 supplement, Vitamin E supplement, menadione sodium bisulfate complex (source of Vitamin K), choline chloride, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (stabilized Vitamin C) inositol, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin, thiamine mononitrate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, niacin, folic acid, biotin, ferrous sulfate, magnesium sulfate, zinc sulfate, manganese sulfate, cobalt sulfate, calcium iodate, and silicon dioxide.

http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+7927+4272&pcatid=4272

Xtreme Community Crave Flake

Spirulina,Canthaxanthin, Astaxanthin, Beta Carotene,Paprika for enhancement

Main Ingredients: Krill Meal, Fish Meal, Wheat Middlings, Wheat, Shrimp Meal, Dehulled Soybean Meal, Wheat Flour, Distillers Dried Grains with Soluables, Brewers Dried Yeast, Spirulina, Monosodium Phosphate, Paprika, Limestone, Xanthophyll, Fish Oil, Lecithin, Salt, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, di-Alph Tocopheryl Acetate(Vitamin E Supplement), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin, Niacin, Caldium Pantothenate, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex(source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Manganese Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Calcium Iodate, Iron Proteinate, Cobalt Proteinate, Calcium Carbonate, Sodium Selenite, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), Canthaxanthin, Astaxanthin, Beta Carotene Guaranteed Analysis: Protein 38% min, Fat 5% min, Fiber 4.5% max, Moisture 10% max.

http://www.kensfish.com/product914.html

hth


Oh ok do you know if discus bio gold pellets or Xtream comunnity flake food has red enhancer in it? Or where would it tell me if it have red enhancer in it? If you could help me out that would be great. Thanks :)

[mattsoccer20]

Oh ok. So both foods have red enhansers in it? If so what do you guys feed your discus?

[mattsoccer20]

Here is a 3R I got from Kenny (same fish, different lighting):

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i75/Monoman1/DSC_0119.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i75/Monoman1/DSC_0165.jpg

Hi kenny emailed me saying he has not sold royal ruby red discus in a long time. He said something simular he has now is a RGD (red gold diamond). Do you know anything about the RGD? How much was your royal ruby red and was it like a A-grade or somthing? Oh and what do you feed your royal ruby red discus? Sorry for all the questions but if you can answer them for me that would help me out allot. Thanks for posting the pic before :)

[seanyuki]

Both red discus are golden based.....creator RGD is Ung Seng Lip.......3R creator is Chan Kok Eng......3R2 creator is Wayne Ng.


juv RGDs from Kenny.

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/th_DSCF3298.jpg (http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/DSCF3298.jpg)

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/th_DSCF3280.jpg (http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/DSCF3280.jpg)

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/th_DSCF3392.jpg (http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/DSCF3392.jpg)

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/th_DSCF3391.jpg (http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/DSCF3391.jpg)

after a few months.

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/th_DSCF3472.jpg (http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/DSCF3472.jpg)

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/th_DSCF3739.jpg (http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/DSCF3739.jpg)

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/th_th2009_05140087.jpg (http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/th2009_05140087.jpg)

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/th_2010_02010078.jpg (http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/aiseanyuki/2010_02010078.jpg)

hth

[ExReefer]

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?84013-Preview-of-Early-Dec-2010-Forrest-shipment-%28Price-list-included%29

I bought the 4.5" 3R's from this shipment.

[mattsoccer20]

Oh ok so the rgd is going to be more red then the royal ruby red right? Oh and what kind of light and what do you feed the RGD from kenny? Thanks for helping me out.

[seanyuki]

You got the Hikari Bio Gold and the Xtreme Community Flakes....those foods are suited for red fish and don't waste money now for other foods......I just use a single strip 24 watt T5.

[mattsoccer20]

You got the Hikari Bio Gold and the Xtreme Community Flakes....those foods are suited for red fish and don't waste money now for other foods......I just use a single strip 24 watt T5.

Hi. I know its been a while sence i posted anything on this thread but i have a question. So what i want to know is what kinds of food does not have red in that i can feed to the fish? I found a discus food that doest not have red in it i think but i need another food that does not have red in it that i can feed also for the other fish in the tank and i need one with no red because the discus will some times eat the other food.

[mattsoccer20]

Ill just make a new thread.

[jlcoop277]

6965369654
Same Fish, when I first got it, and after red enhancing food. I'm trying to actually flush some orange out now. It doesn't look natural to me.

[mattsoccer20]

New thread posted.

[pennex1]

Don't know about complete solid orange but these 4 golden melons that i bought 2 weeks ago from my local breeder are very orangish.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x205/pennex2112/IMAG0173.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x205/pennex2112/IMAG0174.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x205/pennex2112/IMAG0169.jpg

[Ryan MD]

Nice Golden Melon you have!��

[Skip]

Awww
.I miss mattsoccer

[abitoheaven]

Tangerine or Pigeon blood are nice and orange

[Elliots]

I did not read this thread but Hans has "Red" Marlboros that can be yellow orange. I have one in my tank now. The other 5 are reddish orange.

[Discusdude7]

My albino golden melon from Kenny is pretty orange.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/26/5e3ymu3a.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/26/ytudyjyg.jpg