Various F1's on the move.. [Archive]

TURQ64

11-12-2011, 02:33 PM

I just jerked about 90 lbs. of driftwood out of the F1 wild tank in prep for moving soon...Pardon the mess,wood debris, and waterspots, but these guys hardly ever get in good photo range.
Who's who in the zoo...
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/IMG_1013.jpg

F1 Tefe's, Cuipeau's, and a few wild Tefe's

All Cuipeau's..

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/IMG_1014.jpg

Two F1 Tefe's and one wild in the corner..

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/IMG_1015.jpg

My nicest F1 Tefe'..

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/IMG_1011.jpg

Of course, the Hysrix stingrays are camera hogs, buried in every shot!

Sean Buehrle

11-12-2011, 02:35 PM

Pretty neat looking wilds. How old are your fish?

TURQ64

11-12-2011, 03:32 PM

The Tefe' F1's were about nickel to quarter size last New Year's...The Cuipeau F1's are from a batch of Marks, so he'd have to date them...The wild Tefe's are the last spawn of last season; this year's medium's...

Second Hand Pat

11-13-2011, 01:49 AM

These F1 Tefe have grown a lot this year. Love your nicest F1. It will be a pretty spectacular fish as an adult.

fattubwhale

11-13-2011, 02:34 AM

Very nice!!! The "Nicest F1" is pretty sweet looking!!! Hope some of mine turn out like that :)

TURQ64

11-13-2011, 09:00 AM

Very nice!!! The "Nicest F1" is pretty sweet looking!!! Hope some of mine turn out like that :)
Feed 'em good, and keep the heat up..Plenty of potential winner's in that pair of Jim's adults....
Thanks Pat..Yep, a nice fish..bummer that the little notch in the anal fin never smoothed out, but it's a Tefe' F1, not a turq or somesuch...
Those are six inch Oxygen Plus Bio filter's they are swimming under for a size comparison..Each variety has a few lunkers, and a few pipsqueaks...

Keith Perkins

11-13-2011, 11:59 AM

Pretty nice Gary, thanks for sharing.

stephcps

11-13-2011, 02:02 PM

Sweet fish!! Thanks for sharing!

TURQ64

11-13-2011, 07:15 PM

Thanks, Kieth!..Steph, thanks also, and dang, I sure wished I was in your neighborhood to pick up your 150 for the new fishroom!...here's a few more after a wc..they seem good with all the space, except the 'rays get more of their live stuff!..

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/IMG_1018.jpg

Chasing food in the corner..

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/IMG_1019.jpg

Waiting to make a move on the 'rays stash..

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/IMG_1024.jpg

prowling..

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/IMG_1027.jpg

lastly..

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/IMG_1025.jpg

Keith Perkins

11-13-2011, 07:32 PM

Gary, do you have your heaters in homemade sleeves?

TURQ64

11-13-2011, 07:49 PM

Just in that tank, to protect the Stingray's..I burnt the crap out of my first female in the learning curve..Heater's are normally in the sump, but the sump's down on this tank...

YSS

11-16-2011, 08:45 AM

Looking very nice, Gary.

TURQ64

11-16-2011, 09:14 AM

Thank you..I put a couple of the Heckel/PE F1's in with the rest yesterday; they fit right in, and added a deeper, red/golden base to the group..one nine bar, and one 14 bar..

damian_ireland

11-16-2011, 05:27 PM

looks great gary. just wondering if you vacuum the sand ?

TNT77

11-16-2011, 05:55 PM

Careful of the top part of your heater. I've had rays swim up and slide down in between the heater and the glass. Need to make sure the whole heater is covered or far enough away from the side of the glass they cant touch it.
If there is an exposed heater they will find it. lol

TURQ64

11-16-2011, 06:36 PM

Lessee..Those pvc covers were all the way up until we pulled the driftwood..And they're jury-rigged back up now until the wood goes back in....
Damian, Yep, I vac the heck out of it, but I do leave driftwood and mangrove 'debris' areound, as the fish like foraging thru it..When it starts to become detritus, then it's vac'd out...I leave quite a lot of it in with the Heckel tank; they get p*ssed when I get it 'too sanitary' for their liking...

TURQ64

12-03-2011, 09:45 AM

Here's a sloppy shot of the F1 wilds and a few friends...They're not in this tank today; I jumped them to a 60g to hold them while I strip down this tank for moving..Tefe's F1's and a wild left and center..F1 Cuipeau's above and below sponges..Two Heckel crosses in there somewhere..Runt Tefe' in front of sponge...

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0014.jpg

roclement

12-03-2011, 12:59 PM

Very, very nice! Have you seen the wild (as in naturally ocuring) Heckel crosses yet? Unreal! Large fish like blue moons with crazy red in them! I am sure they would right up your alley!

Rodrigo

TURQ64

12-03-2011, 01:02 PM

I don't think so..I've seen photo's of some, but they weren't very good photo's..sounds interesting..

Second Hand Pat

12-03-2011, 01:15 PM

They look good Gary. Is that one of the Cuipeua F1 in the lower right corner?

Keith Perkins

12-03-2011, 01:19 PM

One of these days when the dust settles Gary I'd love to see a nice shot of that big fish with the orange/red coloration on the dorsal and pectorals. Curious what the body looks like.

The tease of how the ceiling looks is nice. Makes my shoulders and neck a little sore just thinking of all the time you spent at 90 degrees hanging it though. Awesome progress on the room.

TURQ64

12-03-2011, 02:14 PM

Pat, that's a small Tefe' in front of the sponge, a wild Tefe' sneaking from behind the sponge, the rest on that side are Cuipeau's..wild Tefe' juvie in center hiding my nicest F1 Tefe',Heckel Cross below them..smaller Tefe' F1's swimming away, photo right....

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0038-1.jpg

F1 Cuipeau's above and below..

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0036.jpg

Kieth, here he is about two weeks ago, and he's pretty much excellent today...

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0024.jpg

Maria Ashton

12-03-2011, 02:27 PM

Oh it makes me want wilds and rays.... giving myself a year of domestics first. Looks ace.

Second Hand Pat

12-04-2011, 12:35 AM

Thanks Gary, your F1 Cuipeau's are looking great and appear to be starting to mature out. Reason for asking is to ensure I am doing right by my F1s.

JamesP

12-05-2011, 01:01 AM

Gary,

The f1"s are coloring out very nicely. I am waiting to see their breeding colors to see if they look like their father. Nice mix of fish with the Cuipai, Heckel cross and Tefe.

Jim

TURQ64

12-07-2011, 11:27 AM

And I'll sneak these guys in here for a preview..Stendker's

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0100.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0098.jpg

Heckel's and Heckel crosses..

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0104.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0106.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0103.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0101.jpg

TURQ64

12-07-2011, 11:41 AM

Jeesh! I had a huge pile of photo's, but one of my dogs hopped up, hit some key, and deleted about ten!..I'll post 'em later..

YSS

12-07-2011, 11:52 AM

Gary, your fish are most excellent! Love them.

TURQ64

12-07-2011, 12:38 PM

Gary, your fish are most excellent! Love them.
Thanks, I appreciate it..
I'll try again..
I'm overcrowding a few larger tanks to accomodate shutting down a dozen on several lines for the move to the new room soon. This 180 is a regular Cioppino (SF fisherman's stew)..This F1's in tere now, along with a half dozen of his F1 bud's..
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0108.jpg
another F1 Tefe' hanging with some 'Blues..
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0117.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0116.jpg
2 Scorp's from Kenny last season
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0119.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0112.jpg
More 'stew'
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0120.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0110.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0114.jpg

Second Hand Pat

12-07-2011, 12:44 PM

Gary, I like them all but love the true heckel look of this one. You can send him to me anytime ;)

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0101.jpg

YSS

12-07-2011, 01:25 PM

Really like the blue guy in the last pic.

TURQ64

12-07-2011, 01:45 PM

Gary, I like them all but love the true heckel look of this one. You can send him to me anytime ;)

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0101.jpg

That one IS a Heckel!!...there's three 4 incher's in with the crosses...

That blue was actually sold to me as a Scorp when it was quarter sized..It's one of the fish in my witness protection program for killing her mate...

Second Hand Pat

12-07-2011, 02:04 PM

That one IS a Heckel!!...there's three 4 incher's in with the crosses...

That blue was actually sold to me as a Scorp when it was quarter sized..It's one of the fish in my witness protection program for killing her mate...

See what happens when one has never seen a heckel in person.

kent1963

12-07-2011, 08:10 PM

See what happens when one has never seen a heckel in person.Don't feel to bad I was gonna ask about that same one! You've got some nice fish Gary!

JamesP

12-07-2011, 08:16 PM

Gary, I may be a little prejudiced but I really like the Heckel crosses. The reddish body with red highlights are realy nice. I knew I should have kept the spotted one half hidden by the Heckel. I don't have another one with that pattern. All of mine are striated.

Jim

That one IS a Heckel!!...there's three 4 incher's in with the crosses...

That blue was actually sold to me as a Scorp when it was quarter sized..It's one of the fish in my witness protection program for killing her mate...

TURQ64

12-07-2011, 08:40 PM

I think I have two..I'll swap you back one if I do....I fairly predjuced also...I'm even fond of the 14 bars, and you've heard my tirade on those types....!

YSS

12-08-2011, 07:52 PM

I would love to have one of those too. Ship them to me and I will take good care of them. Of course, I will pay you a handsome amount as well. :-)

TURQ64

12-12-2011, 08:03 PM

Well, all'ya'll are probably tired of these guys, but I was passing by and shot a few photo's today for their growth records..Pardon the flying food particles, but if I don't give 'em something, they just follow the lens around waiting for food to come out of it, eliminating profile shots...
Now, the disclaimer; These are my Heckel/PE crosses, but my friend JamesP would probably love to sell you a few, so...Here's mine, his probably look even better, and Christmas is approaching!....I think these are the best Discus deal going, considering their size, growth, genetics, and just general dang personalities!..Also, more of them are spotting up...enjoy!

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0027.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0029-1.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0031.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0030.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0034.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0033.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0035.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0036-1.jpg

JamesP

12-13-2011, 08:36 PM

Gary, Those crosses are looking really nice. Great job raising them. It was good seeing you this afternoon. Thanks for the plug on the Heckel/Penang's for sale.
Take care,

Jim

Well, all'ya'll are probably tired of these guys, but I was passing by and shot a few photo's today for their growth records..Pardon the flying food particles, but if I don't give 'em something, they just follow the lens around waiting for food to come out of it, eliminating profile shots...
Now, the disclaimer; These are my Heckel/PE crosses, but my friend JamesP would probably love to sell you a few, so...Here's mine, his probably look even better, and Christmas is approaching!....I think these are the best Discus deal going, considering their size, growth, genetics, and just general dang personalities!..Also, more of them are spotting up...enjoy!

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0027.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0029-1.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0031.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0030.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0034.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0033.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0035.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv319/Royaliste/Fish/DSC_0036-1.jpg

shoveltrash

12-13-2011, 08:53 PM

LOVE the crosses! much more than just pure Heckels.....

It's one of the fish in my witness protection program for killing her mate...REALLY???
she killed her mate? OY!

TURQ64

12-13-2011, 10:51 PM

LOVE the crosses! much more than just pure Heckels.....

REALLY???
she killed her mate? OY!
Yep, when I first started on the new fishroom, I had 2 pair squabbling badly..During the evening, one female harrassed the male so much the big bruiser lifted a 1/4' plate glass cover and hit the floor..It was the top teir on a 3 tier rack..long drop..The oither female literally beat her mate so bad he wedged between a heater and the tank glass..D.O.A.

As for the 'crosses, Send a ton of moola to JamesP, and he'll send you some extremely nice, somewhat uncommon fish that are turning huge...the father is a true 8 1/2 incher..big brute of a Heckel...