Wild Cuipeua's from Discus Origins

[Larry Bugg]

Well Pat and Matt posted pics so I guess I had better also. I drove 6 hours down from Atlanta to Ocala to pick these guys us from Mark and it was well worth the trip. We planned the pick up so Pat and I would both pick our Cuipeua's up at the same time giving us all a chance to meet and talk. It was a great couple of hours spent at Mark's place. Mark has just set up shop in a warehouse location and with a partner is opening up a store front. Their intent is offer hard to find fresh and salt water fish and corals. They have an amazing selection of hard to find corals and an equally impressive selection of salt water fish. Our Cuipeuas were the first shipment in for the fresh water side. These guys have been in the tank for two weeks now and are really starting to color up. It has taken nearly the full two weeks for them all to really eat with gusto. Two of the solids figured out how good Al's FDBW's are pretty quickly but the other 3 took their time. Tank glass is dirty but here are the pictures. Enjoy.

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The Wild Greens lined up in front of the tank wondering why I wasn't taking their picture.

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[Second Hand Pat]

Larry, it was sure nice to meet you and the two hour pow wow with both you and Mark was a unique and special experience for me. It was nice to talk discus vs write discus ;)

Your guys are looking great and some nice color showing up.

[Discus-n00b]

Very nice fish you got Larry!!

[YSS]

Very nice looking fish! Congrats!

[DiscusBR]

Beautiful! The royal discus, like the one in the first pic, are outsdanding. Congrats for the new aquisitions.

[Larry Bugg]

Larry, it was sure nice to meet you and the two hour pow wow with both you and Mark was a unique and special experience for me. It was nice to talk discus vs write discus ;)

Your guys are looking great and some nice color showing up.


Very nice fish you got Larry!!

Thanks guys. It will be fun to compare. Pat and I have already started talking about trading fry, if we get that lucky.


Very nice looking fish! Congrats!

Thanks for the compliment. I'm very pleased.


Beautiful! The royal discus, like the one in the first pic, are outsdanding. Congrats for the new aquisitions.

I thought I really liked the solid wilds better but having this guy in my tank is changing my mind. He is outstanding and I can't wait to see what he looks like 6 months from now. He is the biggest of my group, somewhere between 7" to 8" and definitely at the top of the pecking order.

[Second Hand Pat]

Larry, he is also red-based which I which I like better then my brown based royal.

[Larry Bugg]

Larry, he is also red-based which I which I like better then my brown based royal.

Lol, I was leaning towards the one you got when I first saw them. It wasn't easy making the choices. I am VERY thankful that we had somone with a great background in Wilds like Mark to help us with the decisions. What a great guy to do business with and to have as a future resource. I have no doubt that we are both going to be extremely pleased when they are completely settled in. Is there a way to put a block on his postings????? I don't think I can stand to see his next preview. I don't want to cross but wouldn't some really nice red Curas look nice with these guys. Or maybe that other Royal that I wanted. I have to get busy and sell some more of my fry and odd ball adults............................

[TURQ64]

All in all, you guy's scored some very fine fish..everyone did bang up!....

[Second Hand Pat]

Larry, one exchange I had with Mark regarding acquiring royal Cuipeua's was that the Curuas come from a river which drains into the lake containing the Cuipeua's so should be quite compatible even from a breeding aspect.

Mark, if I have this wrong please correct. Like you Larry I feel lucky to have someone like Mark "in my backyard" if you will. He have been a great help in fielding questions regarding the Cuipeau juvies.

You know Mark's next posting will be RSG. lol. I know you hate those wild greens.

[Larry Bugg]

LOL, I have a 125 full of Greens. It is the Reds that are on the list. I get confused trying to keep up with the names I can't pronounce. Here is what Mark posted.

Re: October Availability- Alenquer Region
Slight variations.. Cuipeuas get red, Curais will get dark reddish brown, the Curuas golden brown.

Here is the google map of the area. The blue dot is Cuipeua.

[Second Hand Pat]

Dang Larry, who knows. I google mapped Cuipeua and it went to Cuipeua - Pará Brazil so my guess is the Cuipeua wilds come from one of the nearby lakes. But you mentioned Curais and not Curuas so my post is mute.

[Larry Bugg]

Dang Larry, who knows. I google mapped Cuipeua and it went to Cuipeua - Pará Brazil so my guess is the Cuipeua wilds come from one of the nearby lakes. But you mentioned Curais and not Curuas so my post is mute.

Well dang Pat. Looks like I forgot to include the link to the map lol. Here it is. http://www.maplandia.com/brazil/para/alenquer/cuipeua/ It is interesting that the satellite map show Cuipeua as being on water but when you change it over to the regular map it shows a long way from the water. Guess the satellite image must be from during the raniy season.

It was if a light switch was thrown on my guys. They have been fairly shy up to this point always hanging out under the shadow a a large piece of manzanita. Went home from work yesterday and they were out and about like they owned the tank. It was a good feeling to see them make this transition.

[Second Hand Pat]

Pretty different map view Larry. I have mine under a weak light and they have not made that transition. Bet it is a cool sight to see these beautiful fish marching across the tank.

[Discus Origins]

That's a cool map Larry.....if you zoom out a few times you can actually see other locations such as Curua, Curuai, and Nhamunda. Its almost like we've been there ;)

[Larry Bugg]

That's a cool map Larry.....if you zoom out a few times you can actually see other locations such as Curua, Curuai, and Nhamunda. Its almost like we've been there ;)

Well it took a lot of google searches to come up with it but I wanted to see something that would clearly show me Cuipeau. I tried pulling up the map that Dale posted about a year and a half ago but while it is a good map it didn't show me what I wanted to see. I need to be able to overlay Dales map over this one, lol.

My 5 Cuipeua's have really made a big change in the last week. As expected the first couple of weeks they really hung to one side of the tank under a big piece of driftwood for protection. They are all over the tank now. The first of last week they started coming out but only following the large Royal. Now they are venturing out on their own some. The big guy still rules the tank though.

[Discus Origins]

Very nice! So they are comfortable now...have a feeling the big royal will always rule the tank, that's one awesome fish!

[illumnae]

There's a map in Heiko's Discus Book 01 that shows the entire Alenquer region that I was trying to dig up to do a little research on Curua. I'll have to check after work today if it shows where the Cuipeua is (I know for sure it shows Curua and Lago Grande do Curai).

According to Heiko, royals are the alphas of each discus shoal. Since they're used to do so in nature, they will probably assume the same role of leadership in the tank?

Any more pictures Larry? :)

[Larry Bugg]

Certainly, I can always add more photos. Here they are 3 weeks in the tank. The smaller Royal finally is showing off a little so more of him then the dominant Royal.

Opps, the glass is still dirty.



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[Second Hand Pat]

Larry, they look great and some of that fabulous red is showing.

[vera]

WOW !! amazing group , is it from the last shipment ?

[Larry Bugg]

Larry, they look great and some of that fabulous red is showing.

Pat, like you have recently posted with your group, each day brings a new look. The solids in particular are really changing.


WOW !! amazing group , is it from the last shipment ?


Thanks Natalia. Yes, these came with Mark's first shipment about a month ago. Same group as Pat's.

[Discus-n00b]

Larry, do you mean Mark? You keep typing Matt.....maybe I'm missing something? lol

The fish look good, love the solids.

[Second Hand Pat]

Matt, I wasn't going to correct

[Larry Bugg]

Larry, do you mean Mark? You keep typing Matt.....maybe I'm missing something? lol

The fish look good, love the solids.

No, you didn't miss anything. I'm just getting old and senile. I corrected.

[rsawest@yahoo.com]

Very nice fish!

[Larry Bugg]

About 6 weeks in the tank now. They don't get bloodworms often but they do love them.

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[YSS]

Fish are looking real nice, Larry. However, your fish don't appear to really go after the worms. Are they good eaters? Good luck with them.

Yun-

[Second Hand Pat]

I recognize the slow graze. See it in my adults and F1s. Seeing more red in your guys Larry, both the royals and solids. Looking mightly good. :)

[Larry Bugg]

Fish are looking real nice, Larry. However, your fish don't appear to really go after the worms. Are they good eaters? Good luck with them.

Yun-


I recognize the slow graze. See it in my adults and F1s. Seeing more red in your guys Larry, both the royals and solids. Looking nightly good. :)

LOL, Yun. You surprised me with your response. The bloodworms are all up against the rear glass. That is why they kept hanging out in the back. You could see the big royal slipping sideways under the wood to get to them.

I'm very pleased with their progress Pat. The big guy is showing well but I'm starting to wonder if the smaller royal will surpass him. He has lots of potential.

[Second Hand Pat]

Larry, six months will tell us a lot about these fish. We may not recognize any of them as the same fish. I would suggest taking pictures for reference, both sides for comparison later.

[YSS]

LOL, Yun. You surprised me with your response. The bloodworms are all up against the rear glass. That is why they kept hanging out in the back. You could see the big royal slipping sideways under the wood to get to them.



Of course, I saw the fish do that. It was just that they weren't going really nuts over the worms. May be because there was plenty of food and not much competition. My fish do graze when I feed them pellets, but when I feed them worms, they are usually all gobbled up before they get a chance to hit the bottom.