disus since i bought a week ago havent eat yet please help?

[discofan]

when a brought home he was happy now look sad and black dots all over his body

[Sean Buehrle]

when a brought home he was happy now look sad and black dots all over his body

Fill out the disease questionnaire at the top sticky part of this forum.

Post a close up picture so everyone can see the problem.

[Chicago Discus]

here is the link http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?38545-Disease-Questionnaire-please-complete

Fill it out so we can help you......welcome to our forum ...........Josie

[discofan]

Disease Questionnaire - please complete



Please complete the questionnaire if your fish are sick (copy and paste)

DISEASE QUESTIONNAIRE


Problem

1. Please explain the problems with your fish/when and how they started

wont eat



2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/ white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wound

turning dark,not eating




3. What medications/ treatments that you have already tried and results. Include dosages and duration of treatment.


none


Tank/Water

clean

4. Tank size and age, number and size of fish

7 discus 3.5 most 15 neon, angels , one pleco small and one mistery snail



5. Water change regime/ how long has tank been running/ bare bottom or gravel/ do you age your water?

wc 25 % avery week add 5 ml per 10 gal. clean gravel every two days

6 Parameters and water source;

- temp _____84

- ph _____ 7.0

- ammonia reading ____0

- nitrite reading ____0

- nitrate reading ____0

- well water ____

- municipal water ____yes

7. Any new fish/plants added recently

amazon sword and jungle val tall one and the sick fish

[Chicago Discus]

what size tank do you have all those fish in? and it sound like you added those fish without quaranting them first.. 25% water change is not enough for your discus and how long has your tank been up and running?.......Josie

[Sean Buehrle]

Disease Questionnaire - please complete



Please complete the questionnaire if your fish are sick (copy and paste)

DISEASE QUESTIONNAIRE


Problem

1. Please explain the problems with your fish/when and how they started

wont eat



2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/ white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wound

turning dark,not eating




3. What medications/ treatments that you have already tried and results. Include dosages and duration of treatment.


none


Tank/Water

clean

4. Tank size and age, number and size of fish

7 discus 3.5 most 15 neon, angels , one pleco small and one mistery snail



5. Water change regime/ how long has tank been running/ bare bottom or gravel/ do you age your water?

wc 25 % avery week add 5 ml per 10 gal. clean gravel every two days

6 Parameters and water source;

- temp _____84

- ph _____ 7.0

- ammonia reading ____0

- nitrite reading ____0

- nitrate reading ____0

- well water ____

- municipal water ____yes

7. Any new fish/plants added recently

amazon sword and jungle val tall one and the sick fish

Well to start out, you need to give an accurate profile of your tank.

(Clean) is not an answer. How many gallons is the tank they are in?

Start doing at least a 75 % water change immediately, right now.

And do at the very least a 50 % water change every day.

You need to go buy a ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate test kit.

0
0
0 nitrate is impossible with the extremely small water changes you are doing.

If you don't start changing water , you can kiss them goodbye. That's not a goldfish your raising :)

They are basically living in a toilet, and won't survive if you continue to keep them in low quality water.

They are probably also sick from being exposed to the other fish in the tank, you are going to need help from others who know how to administer medications, I'm sure someone will be along shortly, good luck.

[discofan]

71208

[Chicago Discus]

can you answer our questions that we asked you?

[Chicago Discus]

how much are feeding?

[discofan]

100 galons fish tank

[Bill63SG]

Well,the black dots is peppering.Thou seems odd with white gravel.

[discofan]

two times a day with frozen blood worms hikari

[Chicago Discus]

and I have a hard time believing that all that peppering happened in a week...

[discofan]

well i have all test kit and thats my reading?

[discofan]

its a lot?

[discofan]

but the other are fine healty and happy!

[Chicago Discus]

two times a day with frozen blood worms hikari well first of all you need to feed a little more than just bloodworms to discus and your other fish need a more balanced diet than just bloodworms, check out the food and nutrition section on this forum it well help you come up with a better idea of what I'm trying to tell you. but first you need to up your water changes

[Sean Buehrle]

well i have all test kit and thats my reading?

Ok well if you say that's your reading then that's your reading.

Still I would start changing water right away.

[discofan]

ok i will do it and thank you

[TNT77]

and I have a hard time believing that all that peppering happened in a week...
If the fish is stressed peppering will come on very quickly.

[TNT77]

well i have all test kit and thats my reading?
Did you do the tests right after a water change?

[Sean Buehrle]

ok i will do it and thank you

No problem

Even though you have a large fish tank for your fish, you are still going to have to do water changes.

Your fish are pretty small for a tank that size and with the tank having gravel in it along with other tank mates, you can expect a tough time raising them.

It does sound stupid but it's completely true that discus need tons of clean water, they won't do well without it.
They will be sluggish and not very colorful. And to make matters worse they might not grow into the fish your hoping to get.

If I were you, I would consider putting them in a smaller tank of their own until you get some discus knowledge under your belt:) just a plain tank, no gravel. Big water changes.

If your fish continues on its course just start a new thread because we have kinda messed this one up.

Good luck! And welcome to simply discus. There's tons of people here and all the correct info you need to be successful with your discus.

[Chicago Discus]

If the fish is stressed peppering will come on very quickly.

Really didn't know that ..

[Sean Buehrle]

Really didn't know that ..

Yep when discus are stressed they show their bars, peppering is what is left of bars:)

[Chicago Discus]

Yep when discus are stressed they show their bars, peppering is what is left of bars:) thanks cool

[discofan]

thank you for your help to everyone!

[Sean Buehrle]

Seen any change in this fish yet?