Albino Red Melon x Mercury

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20 Day old with Dad
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/ARM%20X%20Merc/20days3.jpg?t=1297532860


Mom
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/ARM%20X%20Merc/merk.jpg?t=1298860148



34 day old

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/ARM%20X%20Merc/2.jpg?t=1298860079





After first cull
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/ARM%20X%20Merc/ARMxMerc2.jpg


After second cull (mixed with a few turq juvies)

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/mix2.jpg


http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/13.jpg


nine months
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/Curipera%20Juveniles/pigeon2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/Curipera%20Juveniles/pigeon.jpg

[Chicago Discus]

Nice job they look awesome

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/ARM%20X%20Merc/current.jpg

[Radiation]

WOW - beautiful but unexpected outcome

[nc0gnet0]

This particular fish I almost got rid of. The shape is a bit off with the cichlid hump on the forehead and he started to develope what I thought at the time was pepper (wish I had taken a picture then). I decided to keep it thinking it may be a male and as time progressed this pepper started to develope into what I can only best describe as an underlying pattern. Has anybody ever seen something like this?


http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/ARM%20X%20Merc/up6.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/ARM%20X%20Merc/up7.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/ARM%20X%20Merc/up8.jpg

[mrblah00]

I'm loving these crosses! Keep this up, i'm curious to see where you go with this. I've got a spawn a month old today from an albino cobalt/CB Pigeon. I saw a post that you had put up in the breeding section on one of your crosses and figured, what the heck. I'll try this and see what happens. How big do they have to get before you start to show peppering? Again, please keep posting these crosses, it's nice to see that there can be a good outcome from the PB/albino crosses.
Sam

[nc0gnet0]

Jut for the record, this was a PB x PB cross. ;)

Rick

[Chicago Discus]

Jut for the record, this was a PB x PB cross. ;)

Rick
good job they look great PB babies

[mrblah00]

Jut for the record, this was a PB x PB cross. ;)

Rick


Good point, i guess i posted this in the wrong thread. Sorry about that.
Sam

[nc0gnet0]

Also, to clarify, this particular spawn was about 135 strong. The vast majority of the offspring were peppered to varing degress. Many were just plain butt ugly. What you are seeing is the select few that were worthy of keeping (well in my opinion anyways). None of the peppered fish showed any signs of having the blue pepper of the mercury, just your normal, black, PB pepper. So in many ways this experiment was a failure, with the small exception that I did get a few nice fish. It will be interesting to see the F2's this small group I saved produce. The one thing I can say about these guys (the whole 135+ group) is that they were a very healthy/hardy lot.

[forrest]

nice job Rick,
this is the reason why we ve got stuck in this hobby...u will never know what is the outcome between different strain,,,thx for showing us n keep it up.

best rgds,
forrest

[mattsoccer20]

Wait are those for sale :)?

[Melissa]

Very interesting results. I've seen a similar underlying pattern in the new "Spotted Pigeon" strain through Kenny/Forrest...
They have brilliant bright red spots on the top layer and a peachy orange pattern beneath it.

Like this:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d07f3faf-4122-912d.jpg

Of course it's very difficult to capture the true color with a camera :)

Keep up the good work Rick!!!

[nc0gnet0]

A I wait for some of the other offspring from this cross to come of age here is a picture of two early bloomers with mom, which have all been courting each other. I believe the one that looks a bit like a white buttterfly is a male and the red melon offspring a female.





http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/P3312838.jpg

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http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/use4.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/use.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/a.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/e.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/use3.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/use2.jpg

[shoveltrash]

you've done a fantastic job raising these Discus! you may consider your 'project' a failure, but to my eye you have produced some lovely fish :)

[hedut]

you've done a fantastic job raising these Discus! you may consider your 'project' a failure, but to my eye you have produced some lovely fish :)

+1

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/5-1.jpg

These guys are about to be moved in to their own tank as they have paired off. Time to see what the F2's will look like.

[jimg]

Nice job with them Rick!

[nc0gnet0]

As luck would have it all but one of the fish I saved from this batch turned out to be male, the one sole female was a solid orange. I have seen this happen several times now with my cross's, the sex's seperating by phenotype (ie all the males in this batch were straited orange on white/ females all solid orange). However, as luck would have it I won a NADA raffle in which the parent fish of the fish were very simular to my parent fish of my f1's. I have just started to work with the two (my male/ female NADA raffle fish): This is their second attempt:

New pair I am working with consisting of one of my F1 cross's and a female pb I won from one of the NADA raffles.

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/pb2_zpsb038dabf.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/pb1_zps02ebe379.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/pb3_zps5f0b4007.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/pb4_zps670afffd.jpg

Jim Hall supplied me with pictures of the NADA pb Raffle fish's parents, and you can see why I am enthused to have these fish to work with:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/ed2_zps3ae035a4.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/ed1_zpsd4f10bd2.jpg

As you can see the two seperate cross's have alot in common and this should be a very compatable cross, allowing both lines to merge and be continued....

This is the pairs second attempt, first time around I screened the eggs and got a few wigglers (20) so they are confirmed. Female is still young, but she seems to be making progress (first batch got eaten when screen was pulled).

I am thinking the ultimate goal will be some nice White butterflies with some orange pattern in the fins.

Rick

[timmy82]

Interesting thread.

[Madaboutdiscus]

Beautif fish. Keep up the pics im interested to see what you come out with.

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