flukes?

[cubert]

Problem

1. Please explain the problems with your fish/when and how they started


i noticed last night one of my adult discus scratching his fins against the plants, grave a few timesl, sometimes his fins would twitch, sometimes would only breathe through one gill


2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/ white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds)


flashing, darting, hiding, sometimes breathing from one gill



3. What medications/ treatments that you have already tried and results. Include dosages and duration of treatment.

not sure yet, i have prazi pro in my cabinet



Tank/Water

4. Tank size and age, number and size of fish

50g, 31/2 months, 3 adult discus, 1 juvie

5. Water change regime/ how long has tank been running/ bare bottom or gravel/ do you age your water?

25% a day, 41/2 months, light gravel, no

6 Parameters and water source;

- temp __88 currently___

- ph __7.5___

- ammonia reading __0__

- nitrite reading _0___

- nitrate reading ____

- well water ____

- municipal water ____

7. Any new fish/plants added recently

no

ill try to catch a video of his actions tonight

[cubert]

one example of him scratching, took me a while to catch him doing it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnsY4yT6i0c&feature=plcp

[Skip]

up your water changes up to at least 50%.. and if it is breathing out of one gill.. try 2 tablespoons of salt/per 10 galons.. gill should open up in few hours..

i have yet to see a picture of a fish from some on in SD.. that actually had GILL FLUKES.. so i would say. it probably is not.. so rule out water quality first...

the gravel don't help.. and having aquaclear filter with NO PRE FILTER allows all kinds of gunk to get in the filter.. and cause water quality problems.

[cubert]

got a pre filter ordered the other day, hope this one is ok?

http://www.kensfish.com/moreinfo/ati-filter-max-3.html

[Skip]

pre filters rock..

i found the little one is not good on a AC 50.. its too much suction.. i put a sponge with larger pores. .

[Chicago Discus]

got a pre filter ordered the other day, hope this one is ok?

http://www.kensfish.com/moreinfo/ati-filter-max-3.html


That's the ones I use. Without scoping it it's hard to tell what's going on but it seems like a combination of water quality and the temp is way to high IMO turn that temp down to at least 84 and don't leave uneaten food in your tank. I would wait on the salt until you fix the water quality and temp issue.........Josie

[Skip]

missed the 88 degree thing..

[cubert]

turned it up while using the salt, will turn it down. would this be a good investment as well?
http://shop.mediabaskets.com/AquaClear-70-Media-Basket-AC70MR.htm

[Skip]

turned it up while using the salt, will turn it down. would this be a good investment as well?
http://shop.mediabaskets.com/AquaClear-70-Media-Basket-AC70MR.htm

water changes better

[cubert]

will do, thanks guys

[DiscusDrew]

Yeah didn't we just fix something else? I know I replied to something from you, I agree, continue to focus on water quality and if we don't see improvement in a week or a little longer let us know. I also agree with waiting on the salt for now. Lowering that temp should help as well, at least it will help avoid secondary bacterial infection. Trust the water, it works wonders when there's lots of it changed and added often.

[cubert]

ya it was WC stuff, i got a python system but it doesn't fit my sink, going to home depot tomorrow hoping to find an adapter :(

[DiscusDrew]

i had that same issue, should be able to find the connectors you need to make it work, and that will improve your quality of life greatly. I have mine adapted to a shower for the fish room, it works beautifully.