View Full Version : Batch 2 2009 contest fish(apd) x F1 (ogon yellow white x ARSG)
nc0gnet0
08-04-2012, 09:23 PM
Pair is one of my F1's (albino Red Spotted Green x Ogon Yellow white) x one of the 2009 contest fish purchased from Chad Hughes. Be interesting if these make it, as I not only can document the developement of the fry, but the parents as well. There are about as many fry on the other side of the mother and I apologize for the color, I played around with it to display the fry a bit better. Interesting that 90% of the fry are attached to the albino parent.
http://s567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/batch2b.jpg
Dad is showing a lot of pepper as he has darkened up for the fry. Typically he shows virtually no pepper. There should be 50% albino's in this group, but to hard to tell at this stage. Here are some better pictures of the parents:
Dad:
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/11.jpg
Mom:
http://forum.simplydiscus.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=56414&d=1275614371
DiscusDrew
08-04-2012, 09:39 PM
Should be an interesting batch, ill be following this one, at some point hopefully I can learn some from you about the albino gene and start playing around in that direction. Dad really darkened up for the fry there, I find that a very unique aspect of pigeon breeding.
rdiscus
08-04-2012, 10:20 PM
interesting to see how the fry grow out, specially the albino ...
nc0gnet0
08-08-2012, 02:21 AM
Day 3:
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/dated1.jpg
nc0gnet0
08-10-2012, 10:21 PM
Day 6
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/contest.jpg
nc0gnet0
08-19-2012, 12:14 PM
Week 2:
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/week2batch2-2.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/week2batch2.jpg
Quite the assortment of fry these two have thrown. Although it doesn't show in the pictures I am guess at least 4 maybe 6 types of fry ranging from Pb's to albino's to white/yellows to even what I think (hard to tell at this stage) might be some non-pb's. My guess at this stage is that the 2009 contest fish were Pb crosses heterozygous-only one pb gene).
This picture also reminds me that I need to stop procratinating and put a background on that tank ;)
I am going to grab my SLR and try to take some better pictures of the fry to show the differences in types later hopefully.
Rick
nc0gnet0
08-28-2012, 12:57 AM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/P8273058.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/f1xapd3.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/f1xapd2.jpg
nc0gnet0
08-31-2012, 06:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Trvc42aicX8
rdiscus
08-31-2012, 08:18 PM
Looking great
Eddie
09-01-2012, 06:52 PM
Super nice! Crazy how much Dad changed after the spawn and fry rearing. You did a phenomenal job growing him out. Such a wide range of fry as you mentioned there were some non-pb and non-albino. Maybe RSG? Will be quite the story to watch them develop out!
nc0gnet0
09-01-2012, 07:08 PM
Thanks Eddie! Admittedly Dad wasn't my first choice to breed with this female, but she has proven to be most difficult to force pair with another male APD I had selected for her. I liked the novelty of having a representative of the 2009 contest in this contest, so I allowed her to choose her mate. At least he does have some yellow in his genetics so it could be interesting to see what kind of fry they throw.
Rick
ockyra215
09-02-2012, 04:12 PM
All I can say is Jealous lol. Rick looks good I like the combination should be neat to see the outcome!
nc0gnet0
09-07-2012, 12:36 AM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/apd.jpg
Chicago Discus
09-07-2012, 12:41 AM
they look great my friend............Josie
nc0gnet0
09-08-2012, 08:05 PM
Looking for food:
http://youtu.be/hddtm_a0MP4
Currently getting fed Al's FDBW's as a staple(two feedings) Super beaf heart flake (1x), cobalt Flake (1x) and some NLS growth pellerts intermittantly. Feedings are typically at 6:30 am, 4:15 pm, 7:30 pm, and 11:00 pm. Two 60-80 % water changes a day, one at 5:15 pm and one at 11:00 pm. I have one HOB filter and one sponge filter in the tank. temperature is set to 82.5. I use 100 % RO water with just enough RO waste water to bring my TDS up to around 70 ppm. PH is typically at or about 7.6-7.8, but I honestly don't monitor this much at all.
Getting fed Al's Freeze Dried Black Worms ran through a coffee grinder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RP5A3bBO5Y&feature=player_detailpage
Eddie
09-09-2012, 11:05 PM
Looking great!
dadecountyalan
09-13-2012, 12:45 PM
those fry have great shape for being so young!
nc0gnet0
09-17-2012, 01:59 AM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/9-17-apd1.jpg
I apologize for the late update, but photobucket has been having some real issues of late and I could not upload these friday. Starting to see some difference in size, but this is mainly due to the fact I have three-five different types of offspring from this cross. Different strains grow at different rates and as you can see the pigeon bloods seem to be outpacing the browns. Currently down to 30 fry (I think, hard to get a good count on these little guys).
nc0gnet0
09-23-2012, 09:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5sZ3YxgMFMA
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-23-2_zps095b46c3.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-23-1_zpsbc97fbec.jpg
I am liking this batch, there might be a few very interesting offspring resulting from this cross. I have some yellow/orange fry, some light yellow fry, some brown based fry that are starting to show yellow (?), and a 50-50 mix of pb to non pb fry (this tells me that the 2009 contest albino does not have any pigeon blood genes. It is going to be hard to choose 8 from this batch to move forward for the contest with so many different types.
Eddie
09-24-2012, 06:00 AM
Looking great Rick!
nc0gnet0
09-30-2012, 08:10 PM
SEVEN WEEK UPDATE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=D9inS1jPcUE
This to date is my favorite batch, lots of interesting fry here, pictures to follow.
nc0gnet0
09-30-2012, 08:51 PM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30-2.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30-3.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30-4.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30-5.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30-6.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30-7.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30-8.jpg
rdiscus
09-30-2012, 09:06 PM
Yes interesting fry ... nice group
nc0gnet0
10-07-2012, 06:30 PM
Week 8 update
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-7-6.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-7-1.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-7-2.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-7-3.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-7-4.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-7-5.jpg
A little slower growth on this pair that I attribute to genetics. It's going to be hard to select 8 to work with do to the different and various types this pair produced......open for suggestions? They are feasting on Bill's (inland empire discus) super beafheart flake with pro-growth. I tried to get some pictures without food but they were to spastic and would'nt stop begging for food which doesn't make for good pics.
Rick
rdiscus
10-07-2012, 06:58 PM
They look great
Eddie
10-07-2012, 09:38 PM
These look great too Rick! How many different variations are there in the group?
nc0gnet0
10-07-2012, 10:03 PM
I am guessing 5-6 Eddie.
Rick
Eddie
10-07-2012, 10:18 PM
Yeah, tough call on which to choose. I know it would seem appropriate to choose 1 or 2 from each. If all else fails, I'd choose the best shaped and most robust but thats just me.
You must be busy as all get out with this many batches going!! Good looking fry.
Dogvet06
10-08-2012, 01:52 PM
wow its amazing the color they have at such a young age. I'm impressed at all these discus breeding threads..growing up we raised some angels and it was not as cool as discus!
dadecountyalan
10-08-2012, 02:42 PM
real nice rick.
Very nice Rick. I don't know how I missed this thread. Fry are already showing great shape.
nc0gnet0
10-14-2012, 10:15 PM
Week 9
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-14-1.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-14-3.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-14-4.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-14-6.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-14-7.jpg
Eddie
10-14-2012, 10:18 PM
Why is the title batch 2 2009?
nc0gnet0
10-14-2012, 10:27 PM
Eddie,
The mother is one of the winning fish from the 2009 Contest that I purchased from Chad Hughes.
Eddie
10-14-2012, 10:31 PM
Ah, okay...I was lost. These look very nice!
you have some great fish!
nc0gnet0
10-21-2012, 11:33 AM
Week 10
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-13.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-12.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-9.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-8.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-7.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-11-1.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-1-1.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-6-1.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-5-1.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-4-1.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-3-1.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-2-1.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-10-1.jpg
Eddie
10-21-2012, 12:42 PM
Very nice!
nc0gnet0
10-28-2012, 11:50 PM
Week 11
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-28-12.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-28-5.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-28-7.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-28-8.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-28-9.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-28-11.jpg
Trier20
10-29-2012, 01:50 AM
Rick those are looking wonderful! I really love the yellows.
Bud Smith
10-29-2012, 05:27 AM
Great looking discus - color, shape and pattern is outstanding - will be fantastic adults
good work
Eddie
10-29-2012, 09:33 AM
Really nice!
Second Hand Pat
10-29-2012, 10:55 AM
Outstanding youngsters Rick.
Very nice! They are still with mon and dad?
John_Nicholson
10-29-2012, 11:55 AM
Looking great Rick.
-john
nc0gnet0
10-29-2012, 12:53 PM
Thanks John,
Got the yellow and the red eyes, now to just remove the pattern :)
Poco, yes my eight are still with mom and dad, as long as they don't seem bothered by them I will keep them there.
rick
xKevinx
10-31-2012, 12:43 AM
sooooooooo nice wow!!
joeandmeagan
11-04-2012, 10:42 AM
Beautiful fish! Especially the mother. Lookin forward to the seeing the eight as adults.
Joe
nc0gnet0
11-05-2012, 01:36 AM
Week 12
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-4-6.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-4-5.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-4-4.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-4-3.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-4-2.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-4-1.jpg
Eddie
11-06-2012, 01:01 AM
Very nice! I'm diggin the patterned ones!
Trier20
11-06-2012, 01:21 AM
Very nice! I'm diggin the patterned ones!
+1
Is the overall numbers between pattern and solid even over all in the whole batch?
nc0gnet0
11-08-2012, 11:18 AM
Is the overall numbers between pattern and solid even over all in the whole batch?
Hard to tell at this stage, there are approximately 6 different phenotypes in this batch.
chaoslite
11-08-2012, 02:47 PM
Those are looking really great Rick.
Mishka
Kingdom Come Discus
11-11-2012, 10:51 AM
I am impressed.! Very nice batch!
nc0gnet0
11-13-2012, 01:29 AM
Three months old now on a bi-monthly update cycle.
nc0gnet0
11-18-2012, 10:35 PM
Week 14
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-8.jpg?t=1353292236
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-1.jpg?t=1353292242
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-2.jpg?t=1353292240
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-3.jpg?t=1353292238
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-4.jpg?t=1353292242
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-5.jpg?t=1353292242
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-6.jpg?t=1353292243
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-7.jpg?t=1353292245
timmy82
11-18-2012, 10:39 PM
Vary nice variety
Eddie
11-18-2012, 10:48 PM
Nice group. Crazy variations in them.
nickfish39
11-18-2012, 10:50 PM
Beautiful fish. Strong work!
You have some great looking fish!
Trier20
11-26-2012, 11:32 AM
Nice group. Crazy variations in them.
+1
nc0gnet0
12-03-2012, 02:25 AM
Week 16
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-8.jpg?t=1354515212
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-7.jpg?t=1354515206
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-6.jpg?t=1354515205
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-5.jpg?t=1354515188
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-4.jpg?t=1354515181
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-1.jpg?t=1354515169
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-9.jpg?t=1354515166
nc0gnet0
12-03-2012, 09:41 PM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-3-1.jpg?t=1354585134
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-1-1.jpg?t=1354585134
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-2-1.jpg?t=1354585140
dadecountyalan
12-05-2012, 01:21 PM
AWSOME JOB!!!!!
nc0gnet0
12-16-2012, 09:11 PM
Week 18
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-16-6.jpg?t=1355706315
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-16-1.jpg?t=1355706317
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-16-2.jpg?t=1355706324
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-16-3.jpg?t=1355706322
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-16-4.jpg?t=1355706331
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-16-5.jpg?t=1355706334
Eddie
12-16-2012, 09:27 PM
Coloring up and developing some nice patterns!
nc0gnet0
12-30-2012, 02:09 AM
Week 20
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-30-10.jpg?t=1356847310
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-30-11.jpg?t=1356847310
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-30-1.jpg?t=1356847319
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-30-2.jpg?t=1356847319
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-30-3.jpg?t=1356847330
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-30-4.jpg?t=1356847329
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-30-7.jpg?t=1356847338
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-30-8.jpg?t=1356847347
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-30-9.jpg?t=1356847346
Eddie
12-31-2012, 03:10 PM
Nice work Rick
nc0gnet0
01-03-2013, 03:58 PM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-3-1.jpg?t=1357243022
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-3-2.jpg?t=1357243026
DiscusLoverJeff
01-03-2013, 04:02 PM
Very nice patterns emerging on these guys. Good job Rick!
nc0gnet0
01-13-2013, 06:39 PM
Week 22
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-1.jpg?t=1358116408
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-12.jpg?t=1358118937
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-2.jpg?t=1358117141
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-11.jpg?t=1358118820
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-13.jpg?t=1358119117
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-3.jpg?t=1358117406
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-4.jpg?t=1358117629
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-8.jpg?t=1358118379
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-7.jpg?t=1358118190
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-6.jpg?t=1358118076
Eating Al's FDBW
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-8.jpg?t=1358118379
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-9.jpg?t=1358118520
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-10.jpg?t=1358118659
sandy
01-13-2013, 08:56 PM
Good job they look awesome with perfect pattern
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
Quite a nice batch of juvs. Looking forward to seeing them grown out.
nc0gnet0
02-02-2013, 07:08 PM
Week 25
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-2-3_zpsf4a6b690.jpg?t=1359846205
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-2-14_zpsaa15d28a.jpg?t=1359846197
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-2-13_zps346a4a46.jpg?t=1359846198
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-2-10_zps87051994.jpg?t=1359846184
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-2-5_zpsb276244b.jpg?t=1359846173
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-2-8_zpsdf9fd8db.jpg?t=1359846173
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-2-9_zpsab15a6d4.jpg?t=1359846183
Chad Hughes
02-10-2013, 12:15 PM
Rick,
AMAZING job with these! You've got some real stunners!
Keep up the awesome work!
nc0gnet0
02-18-2013, 11:57 PM
Week 27
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-18-6_zps5a5ea4f6.jpg?t=1361245438
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-18-3_zpsc0860670.jpg?t=1361245425
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-18-4_zps8b679808.jpg?t=1361245429
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-18-7_zps0d4443ee.jpg?t=1361245458
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-18-10_zps19caba1d.jpg?t=1361245410
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-18-1_zps60e891aa.jpg?t=1361245408
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-18-2_zpse544da37.jpg?t=1361245421
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-18-5_zps2152d227.jpg?t=1361245437
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-18-8_zps9c86bff7.jpg?t=1361245448
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-18-9_zps5f7b5679.jpg?t=1361245462
Wjmulder
02-19-2013, 09:51 AM
Nice! Are there any with no pattern developing? Pic 8 seems to have 1 in the back with no color even in the fins. You know why I'm asking lol
nc0gnet0
02-19-2013, 11:06 AM
Nice! Are there any with no pattern developing? Pic 8 seems to have 1 in the back with no color even in the fins. You know why I'm asking lol
Yup, that is a solid yellow (at least to this point). Pity its the smallest of the batch, but I kept it do to the fact it was the only one of it's type.
Rick
Wjmulder
02-19-2013, 11:25 AM
I have 2 in the batch I got from you, 1 is totally clean and the other has faint color at the tip of its fins, not sure if they're from this pair or not. I gotta say... the mutts are much more fun to watch develop than the "purebreds" :)
the20tonknuckler
03-07-2013, 02:18 AM
Absolutely beautiful fish!
nc0gnet0
03-07-2013, 03:34 PM
Week 30
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-11_zpsa9ee804f.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-1_zps539e4d23.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-2_zpsfbd63e54.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-3_zpsc60eb157.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-4_zps461db683.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-5_zpsdd8341c7.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-6_zpsde4ecca0.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-7_zpse7a000e4.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-8_zpsa3409295.jpg
Very interesting and impressive cross you have done Rick :D hard to tell from the pictures just curious what is the % of albinos you got from this cross? just want to see how the theories work in practice for albino x intermediate. Thanks.
Xiaofei :)
nc0gnet0
03-19-2013, 09:51 PM
Xiaofei,
It depends on how you look at it. The theories work out perfectly when you study the fry on the cone. Unfortunatly, survivability of the albino's when competing against the non-albino's at an early age skews the results considerably.
Trevor W
03-19-2013, 11:24 PM
Very nice group you have here. Such a unique variety and variance in the group.
nc0gnet0
03-24-2013, 01:40 AM
Week 32
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-11_zps52a60db1.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-10_zps897cd8dd.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-9_zpsfba5dcd6.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-14_zpsa429545d.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-8_zpscde7a82e.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-15_zps490c9af8.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-7_zps66ae9176.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-6_zps6861cbaf.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-5_zpsc5f9ccc3.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-4_zpsd3ec6ccf.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-2_zps0d99f2a2.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-3_zps705f0ab1.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-1_zps2cb46f37.jpg
Looking forward to see them full grown to see what the patterns do.
nc0gnet0
04-06-2013, 01:49 PM
Week 34
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-6-6_zps60b68ca3.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-6-4_zpsb35592e0.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-6-3_zps8667fb9b.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-6-2_zpsbb9ca659.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-6-1_zpsa3a9eb57.jpg
nc0gnet0
04-29-2013, 01:04 AM
Weak 37
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-28-7_zpsc8564b77.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-28-6_zpsbffe6af6.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-28-4_zps001bbe3d.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-28-2_zps94e5adb5.jpg
They are coming along great!
nc0gnet0
05-18-2013, 07:49 PM
Week 39
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-2_zps33a6cd5c.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-12_zps4e287c04.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-11_zpsbd4030bd.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-10_zps49601e9e.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-9_zps04b00497.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-2_zps33a6cd5c.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-4_zpsa13bc482.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-7_zpsfc135e38.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-6_zpsc69e77fe.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-5_zpsb3da306a.jpg
blueluv
05-22-2013, 06:06 PM
Awesome! Awesome! Looking discus, I like the ones that are starting to look like dad. I just love everything about discus. ..I hope one day I can be at the level of the hobby.
xKevinx
05-27-2013, 12:18 AM
impressive!
nc0gnet0
05-27-2013, 12:23 PM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-11_zpsa3563a34.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-10_zpse2255d24.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-9_zps9c0f3f8f.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-8_zpscb229eaa.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-7_zpsdb69b476.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-6_zps76534e74.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-5_zpsfbee050d.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-4_zps99b06245.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-3_zpsc554badd.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-2_zps2efa2834.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-1_zps3060afc0.jpg
looking very nice!!.......
nc0gnet0
06-15-2013, 08:55 PM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1527_zps92a20496.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1526_zpsd4e92291.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1525_zpsc78d86d9.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1522_zpsb8cb8633.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1521_zps58e03334.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1517_zps3e58437a.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1513_zps098de5e4.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1512_zps0ea0573c.jpg
nc0gnet0
06-23-2013, 06:40 PM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-6-23-1_zpsb0b50786.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-6-23-2_zps6a75f20b.jpg
Eddie
07-14-2013, 06:43 PM
Nice fish Rick. Interesting turn out on the pattern/colors.
nc0gnet0
07-15-2013, 01:53 AM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-1_zps70a5a3ed.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-2_zps7d92532a.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-3_zpsd84ac712.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-4_zps34212cba.jpg
Fundulopanchax
07-15-2013, 07:34 AM
Beautiful! Any close shots of the RSG from previous, it is my favorite among all these great fish.
Ron
Eddie
07-15-2013, 09:51 PM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-2_zps7d92532a.jpg
This fish is very interesting. Appears pigeon based like a blue pigeon and with a red turq pattern. I really like this fish. A tank of identical fish like this, would be really impressive.
nc0gnet0
07-15-2013, 09:54 PM
Thanks Eddie, if you look at my avatar, the fish you like is the small juvie super-imposed on the mother.
Rick
Eddie
07-15-2013, 09:59 PM
Thanks Eddie, if you look at my avatar, the fish you like is the small juvie super-imposed on the mother.
Rick
Ha, thats pretty cool. I'd really try to fix that type. I'm sure it would be tough with the variations these 2 are throwing.
nc0gnet0
07-15-2013, 11:08 PM
Ha, thats pretty cool. I'd really try to fix that type. I'm sure it would be tough with the variations these 2 are throwing.
Eddie,
My hopes are that the fish we are talking about is a male, in which case I will breed it back to the mother. This should give me a higher percentage of the phenotypes like the one you like. From there I will choose the best ones and then try to "fix" the type.
Rick
Rick
nc0gnet0
07-15-2013, 11:18 PM
Beautiful! Any close shots of the RSG from previous, it is my favorite among all these great fish.
Ron
Not my favorite of the batch and these will not make the final cut, but here you go:
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-10_zpsc542411f.jpg
And another picture of one of the orange/yellows:
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-11_zps9fbf3c7e.jpg
Eddie
07-15-2013, 11:33 PM
Eddie,
My hopes are that the fish we are talking about is a male, in which case I will breed it back to the mother. This should give me a higher percentage of the phenotypes like the one you like. From there I will choose the best ones and then try to "fix" the type.
Rick
Rick
And then ship to Spain. LOL
Chad Adams
07-16-2013, 10:58 AM
Very impressive fish Rick.
If I was in the contest I would be worried...
Chad
xKevinx
07-21-2013, 12:27 AM
outstanding job raising them!
nc0gnet0
08-03-2013, 03:00 PM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-6_zps64733edf.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-3_zpsd507b273.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1693_zps8b19a488.jpg
Kal-El
08-03-2013, 07:09 PM
How big are they now?
nc0gnet0
08-03-2013, 08:19 PM
How big are they now?
Approaching 5.5" TL this batch was a little slow growing and a little high bodied. They have been going through a growth spurt as of late however.
Rick
blueluv
08-03-2013, 10:39 PM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-6_zps64733edf.jpg
Impressive! Like the pattern. Are all your discus from Hans?
nc0gnet0
08-11-2013, 06:22 PM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-11-4_zps0d83114c.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-11-2_zps2554b752.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-11-3_zpsc9dc813f.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-11-1_zps045051cc.jpg
nc0gnet0
09-02-2013, 02:40 PM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-9-2-4_zpsc315d13c.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-9-2-5_zpsd1cc68e3.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-9-2-6_zpsb1bc5308.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-9-2-9_zps1f38dafe.jpg
nc0gnet0
10-06-2013, 02:32 AM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-6-5_zps93c5a354.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-6-4_zps22b3ad71.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-6-3_zps31863141.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-6-2_zpsf1d6b5fb.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-6-1_zpsd00e73c6.jpg
DiscusLoverJeff
10-06-2013, 06:31 AM
Really impressive Rick.
nc0gnet0
10-19-2013, 10:45 PM
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-10-19-6_zps6059caf3.jpg?t=1382150551
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-10-19-8_zps825d3f73.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-10-19-1_zps04cef39a.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-10-19-2_zps4660986a.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-10-19-5_zpsefd18501.jpg
pastry
10-19-2013, 11:20 PM
Rick, just posted on your BD & Angel thread/log but seriously, you should win an award for log keeping (multiple log keeping at that). Really helps by not only seeing one brood but several broods under the same owner (of different strains) and how you can really pin point a great bench mark. Thanks boss and all look great (still really like the hell out of that BD&Angel cross!)
luca1979
10-20-2013, 10:01 AM
Yeah :)
nc0gnet0
12-08-2013, 01:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gBzJGckMYO4
nc0gnet0
12-08-2013, 01:20 AM
Male
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2finalm_zps187b8e35.jpg
Female
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2finalm2_zps62f8ee18.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2finalc_zps7f077eac.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2finalc2_zps5132acb3.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2finalc4_zpsd582dc86.jpg
Nick Klimkowski
12-08-2013, 01:23 AM
they look great! they have a very nice shape to them.
nc0gnet0
12-08-2013, 08:12 AM
they look great! they have a very nice shape to them.
Thanks! I find it interesting to see how much the trailers have grown on the one fish in just the last 6-7 weeks. I should have fanned them out to add another 1" to the TL of the fish lol.
DiscusLoverJeff
12-08-2013, 09:17 AM
The one with the trailers Rick looks like a fish to take to NADA. Looks great.
nc0gnet0
12-08-2013, 09:31 AM
The one with the trailers Rick looks like a fish to take to NADA. Looks great.
Thanks Jeff, he's has a bit more growing to do, but his father kept right on growing up to 8" albeit slowly (took two years). It is however my favorite fish of my groups. Perhaps if he reaches the 7" TL mark by Nada I might consider it as an entry at least for the homebred division (?). I just wish the fish had a red eye, but that is something to work on in future generations, as I do have plans to do so with this phenotype.
tomas_ch1
12-08-2013, 01:28 PM
Very nice rick!! That round shape for relatively young fish is geourgeous.
Tomas
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