Batch 2 2009 contest fish(apd) x F1 (ogon yellow white x ARSG)

[nc0gnet0]

Pair is one of my F1's (albino Red Spotted Green x Ogon Yellow white) x one of the 2009 contest fish purchased from Chad Hughes. Be interesting if these make it, as I not only can document the developement of the fry, but the parents as well. There are about as many fry on the other side of the mother and I apologize for the color, I played around with it to display the fry a bit better. Interesting that 90% of the fry are attached to the albino parent.

http://s567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/batch2b.jpg

Dad is showing a lot of pepper as he has darkened up for the fry. Typically he shows virtually no pepper. There should be 50% albino's in this group, but to hard to tell at this stage. Here are some better pictures of the parents:

Dad:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/11.jpg

Mom:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=56414&d=1275614371

[DiscusDrew]

Should be an interesting batch, ill be following this one, at some point hopefully I can learn some from you about the albino gene and start playing around in that direction. Dad really darkened up for the fry there, I find that a very unique aspect of pigeon breeding.

[rdiscus]

interesting to see how the fry grow out, specially the albino ...

[nc0gnet0]

Day 3:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/dated1.jpg

[nc0gnet0]

Day 6

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/contest.jpg

[nc0gnet0]

Week 2:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/week2batch2-2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/week2batch2.jpg

Quite the assortment of fry these two have thrown. Although it doesn't show in the pictures I am guess at least 4 maybe 6 types of fry ranging from Pb's to albino's to white/yellows to even what I think (hard to tell at this stage) might be some non-pb's. My guess at this stage is that the 2009 contest fish were Pb crosses heterozygous-only one pb gene).

This picture also reminds me that I need to stop procratinating and put a background on that tank ;)

I am going to grab my SLR and try to take some better pictures of the fry to show the differences in types later hopefully.

Rick

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/P8273058.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/f1xapd3.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/f1xapd2.jpg

[nc0gnet0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Trvc42aicX8

[rdiscus]

Looking great

[Eddie]

Super nice! Crazy how much Dad changed after the spawn and fry rearing. You did a phenomenal job growing him out. Such a wide range of fry as you mentioned there were some non-pb and non-albino. Maybe RSG? Will be quite the story to watch them develop out!

[nc0gnet0]

Thanks Eddie! Admittedly Dad wasn't my first choice to breed with this female, but she has proven to be most difficult to force pair with another male APD I had selected for her. I liked the novelty of having a representative of the 2009 contest in this contest, so I allowed her to choose her mate. At least he does have some yellow in his genetics so it could be interesting to see what kind of fry they throw.

Rick

[ockyra215]

All I can say is Jealous lol. Rick looks good I like the combination should be neat to see the outcome!

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/apd.jpg

[Chicago Discus]

they look great my friend............Josie

[nc0gnet0]

Looking for food:


http://youtu.be/hddtm_a0MP4


Currently getting fed Al's FDBW's as a staple(two feedings) Super beaf heart flake (1x), cobalt Flake (1x) and some NLS growth pellerts intermittantly. Feedings are typically at 6:30 am, 4:15 pm, 7:30 pm, and 11:00 pm. Two 60-80 % water changes a day, one at 5:15 pm and one at 11:00 pm. I have one HOB filter and one sponge filter in the tank. temperature is set to 82.5. I use 100 % RO water with just enough RO waste water to bring my TDS up to around 70 ppm. PH is typically at or about 7.6-7.8, but I honestly don't monitor this much at all.

Getting fed Al's Freeze Dried Black Worms ran through a coffee grinder:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RP5A3bBO5Y&feature=player_detailpage

[Eddie]

Looking great!

[dadecountyalan]

those fry have great shape for being so young!

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/9-17-apd1.jpg

I apologize for the late update, but photobucket has been having some real issues of late and I could not upload these friday. Starting to see some difference in size, but this is mainly due to the fact I have three-five different types of offspring from this cross. Different strains grow at different rates and as you can see the pigeon bloods seem to be outpacing the browns. Currently down to 30 fry (I think, hard to get a good count on these little guys).

[nc0gnet0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5sZ3YxgMFMA

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-23-2_zps095b46c3.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-23-1_zpsbc97fbec.jpg

I am liking this batch, there might be a few very interesting offspring resulting from this cross. I have some yellow/orange fry, some light yellow fry, some brown based fry that are starting to show yellow (?), and a 50-50 mix of pb to non pb fry (this tells me that the 2009 contest albino does not have any pigeon blood genes. It is going to be hard to choose 8 from this batch to move forward for the contest with so many different types.

[Eddie]

Looking great Rick!

[nc0gnet0]

SEVEN WEEK UPDATE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=D9inS1jPcUE

This to date is my favorite batch, lots of interesting fry here, pictures to follow.

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30-2.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30.jpg
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http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30-4.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30-5.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30-6.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30-7.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-9-30-8.jpg

[rdiscus]

Yes interesting fry ... nice group

[DLFL]

Very good looking juvs.

[nc0gnet0]

Week 8 update

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-7-6.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-7-1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-7-2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-7-3.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-7-4.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-7-5.jpg

A little slower growth on this pair that I attribute to genetics. It's going to be hard to select 8 to work with do to the different and various types this pair produced......open for suggestions? They are feasting on Bill's (inland empire discus) super beafheart flake with pro-growth. I tried to get some pictures without food but they were to spastic and would'nt stop begging for food which doesn't make for good pics.

Rick

[rdiscus]

They look great

[Eddie]

These look great too Rick! How many different variations are there in the group?

[nc0gnet0]

I am guessing 5-6 Eddie.

Rick

[Eddie]

Yeah, tough call on which to choose. I know it would seem appropriate to choose 1 or 2 from each. If all else fails, I'd choose the best shaped and most robust but thats just me.

[DLFL]

You must be busy as all get out with this many batches going!! Good looking fry.

[Dogvet06]

wow its amazing the color they have at such a young age. I'm impressed at all these discus breeding threads..growing up we raised some angels and it was not as cool as discus!

[dadecountyalan]

real nice rick.

[Poco]

Very nice Rick. I don't know how I missed this thread. Fry are already showing great shape.

[nc0gnet0]

Week 9

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-14-1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-14-3.jpg

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http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-14-7.jpg

[Eddie]

Why is the title batch 2 2009?

[nc0gnet0]

Eddie,

The mother is one of the winning fish from the 2009 Contest that I purchased from Chad Hughes.

[Eddie]

Ah, okay...I was lost. These look very nice!

[DLFL]

you have some great fish!

[nc0gnet0]

Week 10

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-13.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-12.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-9.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-8.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-7.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-11-1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-1-1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-6-1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-5-1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-4-1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-3-1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-2-1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/B3-10-21-10-1.jpg

[Eddie]

Very nice!

[nc0gnet0]

Week 11

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-28-12.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-28-5.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-28-7.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-28-8.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-28-9.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-28-11.jpg

[Trier20]

Rick those are looking wonderful! I really love the yellows.

[Bud Smith]

Great looking discus - color, shape and pattern is outstanding - will be fantastic adults
good work

[Eddie]

Really nice!

[Second Hand Pat]

Outstanding youngsters Rick.

[Poco]

Very nice! They are still with mon and dad?

[John_Nicholson]

Looking great Rick.

-john

[nc0gnet0]

Thanks John,

Got the yellow and the red eyes, now to just remove the pattern :)


Poco, yes my eight are still with mom and dad, as long as they don't seem bothered by them I will keep them there.

rick

[xKevinx]

sooooooooo nice wow!!

[joeandmeagan]

Beautiful fish! Especially the mother. Lookin forward to the seeing the eight as adults.



Joe

[nc0gnet0]

Week 12

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-4-6.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-4-5.jpg

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http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-4-1.jpg

[Eddie]

Very nice! I'm diggin the patterned ones!

[Trier20]

Very nice! I'm diggin the patterned ones!

+1

[DLFL]

Is the overall numbers between pattern and solid even over all in the whole batch?

[nc0gnet0]

Is the overall numbers between pattern and solid even over all in the whole batch?

Hard to tell at this stage, there are approximately 6 different phenotypes in this batch.

[chaoslite]

Those are looking really great Rick.

Mishka

[Kingdom Come Discus]

I am impressed.! Very nice batch!

[nc0gnet0]

Three months old now on a bi-monthly update cycle.

[nc0gnet0]

Week 14

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-8.jpg?t=1353292236

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-1.jpg?t=1353292242

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http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-4.jpg?t=1353292242

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-5.jpg?t=1353292242

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-6.jpg?t=1353292243

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-11-18-7.jpg?t=1353292245

[timmy82]

Vary nice variety

[Eddie]

Nice group. Crazy variations in them.

[nickfish39]

Beautiful fish. Strong work!

[DLFL]

You have some great looking fish!

[Trier20]

Nice group. Crazy variations in them.

+1

[nc0gnet0]

Week 16


http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-8.jpg?t=1354515212

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-7.jpg?t=1354515206

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http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-9.jpg?t=1354515166

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-3-1.jpg?t=1354585134

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-1-1.jpg?t=1354585134

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-3-2-1.jpg?t=1354585140

[DLFL]

Very nice looking fish.

[dadecountyalan]

AWSOME JOB!!!!!

[nc0gnet0]

Week 18


http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-16-6.jpg?t=1355706315

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-16-1.jpg?t=1355706317

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http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-16-5.jpg?t=1355706334

[Eddie]

Coloring up and developing some nice patterns!

[DLFL]

Very nice.

[nc0gnet0]

Week 20

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-30-10.jpg?t=1356847310

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-30-11.jpg?t=1356847310

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http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-12-30-9.jpg?t=1356847346

[Len]

nice

[Eddie]

Nice work Rick

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-3-1.jpg?t=1357243022

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-3-2.jpg?t=1357243026

[DiscusLoverJeff]

Very nice patterns emerging on these guys. Good job Rick!

[nc0gnet0]

Week 22

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-1.jpg?t=1358116408

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-12.jpg?t=1358118937

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http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-8.jpg?t=1358118379

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-7.jpg?t=1358118190

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-6.jpg?t=1358118076

Eating Al's FDBW

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-8.jpg?t=1358118379

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-9.jpg?t=1358118520

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-1-13-10.jpg?t=1358118659

[sandy]

Good job they look awesome with perfect pattern

Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

[DLFL]

Quite a nice batch of juvs. Looking forward to seeing them grown out.

[nc0gnet0]

Week 25

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-2-3_zpsf4a6b690.jpg?t=1359846205

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-2-14_zpsaa15d28a.jpg?t=1359846197

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http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-2-9_zpsab15a6d4.jpg?t=1359846183

[Chad Hughes]

Rick,

AMAZING job with these! You've got some real stunners!

Keep up the awesome work!

[nc0gnet0]

Week 27

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-18-6_zps5a5ea4f6.jpg?t=1361245438

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-2-18-3_zpsc0860670.jpg?t=1361245425

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[Wjmulder]

Nice! Are there any with no pattern developing? Pic 8 seems to have 1 in the back with no color even in the fins. You know why I'm asking lol

[nc0gnet0]

Nice! Are there any with no pattern developing? Pic 8 seems to have 1 in the back with no color even in the fins. You know why I'm asking lol

Yup, that is a solid yellow (at least to this point). Pity its the smallest of the batch, but I kept it do to the fact it was the only one of it's type.

Rick

[Wjmulder]

I have 2 in the batch I got from you, 1 is totally clean and the other has faint color at the tip of its fins, not sure if they're from this pair or not. I gotta say... the mutts are much more fun to watch develop than the "purebreds" :)

[the20tonknuckler]

Absolutely beautiful fish!

[nc0gnet0]

Week 30

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-11_zpsa9ee804f.jpg

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http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-2_zpsfbd63e54.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-3_zpsc60eb157.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-4_zps461db683.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-5_zpsdd8341c7.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-6_zpsde4ecca0.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-7_zpse7a000e4.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-7-8_zpsa3409295.jpg

[vss]

Very interesting and impressive cross you have done Rick :D hard to tell from the pictures just curious what is the % of albinos you got from this cross? just want to see how the theories work in practice for albino x intermediate. Thanks.

Xiaofei :)

[nc0gnet0]

Xiaofei,

It depends on how you look at it. The theories work out perfectly when you study the fry on the cone. Unfortunatly, survivability of the albino's when competing against the non-albino's at an early age skews the results considerably.

[Trevor W]

Very nice group you have here. Such a unique variety and variance in the group.

[nc0gnet0]

Week 32


http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-11_zps52a60db1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-10_zps897cd8dd.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-9_zpsfba5dcd6.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-14_zpsa429545d.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-8_zpscde7a82e.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-15_zps490c9af8.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-7_zps66ae9176.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-6_zps6861cbaf.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-5_zpsc5f9ccc3.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-4_zpsd3ec6ccf.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-2_zps0d99f2a2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-3_zps705f0ab1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-3-24-1_zps2cb46f37.jpg

[DLFL]

Looking forward to see them full grown to see what the patterns do.

[nc0gnet0]

Week 34

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-6-6_zps60b68ca3.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-6-4_zpsb35592e0.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-6-3_zps8667fb9b.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-6-2_zpsbb9ca659.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-6-1_zpsa3a9eb57.jpg

[nc0gnet0]

Weak 37

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-28-7_zpsc8564b77.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-28-6_zpsbffe6af6.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-28-4_zps001bbe3d.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-4-28-2_zps94e5adb5.jpg

[DLFL]

They are coming along great!

[nc0gnet0]

Week 39

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-2_zps33a6cd5c.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-12_zps4e287c04.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-11_zpsbd4030bd.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-10_zps49601e9e.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-9_zps04b00497.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-2_zps33a6cd5c.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-4_zpsa13bc482.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-7_zpsfc135e38.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-6_zpsc69e77fe.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-12-5_zpsb3da306a.jpg

[blueluv]

Awesome! Awesome! Looking discus, I like the ones that are starting to look like dad. I just love everything about discus. ..I hope one day I can be at the level of the hobby.

[xKevinx]

impressive!

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-11_zpsa3563a34.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-10_zpse2255d24.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-9_zps9c0f3f8f.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-8_zpscb229eaa.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-7_zpsdb69b476.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-6_zps76534e74.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-5_zpsfbee050d.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-4_zps99b06245.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-3_zpsc554badd.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-2_zps2efa2834.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-5-27-1_zps3060afc0.jpg

[coty]

looking very nice!!.......

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1527_zps92a20496.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1526_zpsd4e92291.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1525_zpsc78d86d9.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1522_zpsb8cb8633.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1521_zps58e03334.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1517_zps3e58437a.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1513_zps098de5e4.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1512_zps0ea0573c.jpg

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-6-23-1_zpsb0b50786.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-6-23-2_zps6a75f20b.jpg

[Eddie]

Nice fish Rick. Interesting turn out on the pattern/colors.

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-1_zps70a5a3ed.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-2_zps7d92532a.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-3_zpsd84ac712.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-4_zps34212cba.jpg

[Fundulopanchax]

Beautiful! Any close shots of the RSG from previous, it is my favorite among all these great fish.

Ron

[Eddie]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-2_zps7d92532a.jpg




This fish is very interesting. Appears pigeon based like a blue pigeon and with a red turq pattern. I really like this fish. A tank of identical fish like this, would be really impressive.

[nc0gnet0]

Thanks Eddie, if you look at my avatar, the fish you like is the small juvie super-imposed on the mother.

Rick

[Eddie]

Thanks Eddie, if you look at my avatar, the fish you like is the small juvie super-imposed on the mother.

Rick

Ha, thats pretty cool. I'd really try to fix that type. I'm sure it would be tough with the variations these 2 are throwing.

[nc0gnet0]

Ha, thats pretty cool. I'd really try to fix that type. I'm sure it would be tough with the variations these 2 are throwing.

Eddie,

My hopes are that the fish we are talking about is a male, in which case I will breed it back to the mother. This should give me a higher percentage of the phenotypes like the one you like. From there I will choose the best ones and then try to "fix" the type.

Rick

Rick

[nc0gnet0]

Beautiful! Any close shots of the RSG from previous, it is my favorite among all these great fish.

Ron

Not my favorite of the batch and these will not make the final cut, but here you go:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-10_zpsc542411f.jpg

And another picture of one of the orange/yellows:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-7-15-11_zps9fbf3c7e.jpg

[Eddie]

Eddie,

My hopes are that the fish we are talking about is a male, in which case I will breed it back to the mother. This should give me a higher percentage of the phenotypes like the one you like. From there I will choose the best ones and then try to "fix" the type.

Rick

Rick

And then ship to Spain. LOL

[Chad Adams]

Very impressive fish Rick.
If I was in the contest I would be worried...

Chad

[xKevinx]

outstanding job raising them!

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-6_zps64733edf.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-3_zpsd507b273.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1693_zps8b19a488.jpg

[Kal-El]

How big are they now?

[nc0gnet0]

How big are they now?

Approaching 5.5" TL this batch was a little slow growing and a little high bodied. They have been going through a growth spurt as of late however.

Rick

[blueluv]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-6_zps64733edf.jpg

Impressive! Like the pattern. Are all your discus from Hans?

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-11-4_zps0d83114c.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-11-2_zps2554b752.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-11-3_zpsc9dc813f.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-8-11-1_zps045051cc.jpg

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-9-2-4_zpsc315d13c.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-9-2-5_zpsd1cc68e3.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-9-2-6_zpsb1bc5308.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-9-2-9_zps1f38dafe.jpg

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-6-5_zps93c5a354.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-6-4_zps22b3ad71.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-6-3_zps31863141.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-6-2_zpsf1d6b5fb.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2-10-6-1_zpsd00e73c6.jpg

[DiscusLoverJeff]

Really impressive Rick.

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-10-19-6_zps6059caf3.jpg?t=1382150551

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-10-19-8_zps825d3f73.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-10-19-1_zps04cef39a.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-10-19-2_zps4660986a.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b3-10-19-5_zpsefd18501.jpg

[pastry]

Rick, just posted on your BD & Angel thread/log but seriously, you should win an award for log keeping (multiple log keeping at that). Really helps by not only seeing one brood but several broods under the same owner (of different strains) and how you can really pin point a great bench mark. Thanks boss and all look great (still really like the hell out of that BD&Angel cross!)

[luca1979]

Yeah :)

[nc0gnet0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gBzJGckMYO4

[nc0gnet0]

Male

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2finalm_zps187b8e35.jpg

Female

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2finalm2_zps62f8ee18.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2finalc_zps7f077eac.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2finalc2_zps5132acb3.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b2finalc4_zpsd582dc86.jpg

[Nick Klimkowski]

they look great! they have a very nice shape to them.

[nc0gnet0]

they look great! they have a very nice shape to them.

Thanks! I find it interesting to see how much the trailers have grown on the one fish in just the last 6-7 weeks. I should have fanned them out to add another 1" to the TL of the fish lol.

[DiscusLoverJeff]

The one with the trailers Rick looks like a fish to take to NADA. Looks great.

[nc0gnet0]

The one with the trailers Rick looks like a fish to take to NADA. Looks great.

Thanks Jeff, he's has a bit more growing to do, but his father kept right on growing up to 8" albeit slowly (took two years). It is however my favorite fish of my groups. Perhaps if he reaches the 7" TL mark by Nada I might consider it as an entry at least for the homebred division (?). I just wish the fish had a red eye, but that is something to work on in future generations, as I do have plans to do so with this phenotype.

[tomas_ch1]

Very nice rick!! That round shape for relatively young fish is geourgeous.
Tomas