leopard x blue diamond

[dennis waage]

Hi, I have a female blue diamond pairing up with a nice large leopard male. What will be the outcome?

Dennis

[Eddie]

Depends on the genetics of the leopard, but you shouldn't get any BD out of that batch. Mainly leopards and possibly some turq throwbacks. Really hard to say without knowing the quality of the leopard.

[dennis waage]

Thank's Eddie,
In quality you mean how pure in genetics, or just how beautiful is the leopard? I no it is a very nice spotted leopard form tony Tan.

[Eddie]

Thank's Eddie,
In quality you mean how pure in genetics, or just how beautiful is the leopard? I no it is a very nice spotted leopard form tony Tan.

Yes, how established/strong the genetics are. I'm sure its top quality if its Tony Tans.

[dennis waage]

They have laid eggs in my showtank, its bin there for 2 days than the clean up the eggs. Next week i will give theme their own breeding tank and hope the male is a good genetic fish.
I love leopards so i hope everything works out fine.
Thanks Eddie, i will let you all no how it works out.

[dennis waage]

YES, they did it. 60-70 baby's free zwimming for 4 days now. The parents doing great. Can not take any pics. When i come close with my camera the mother looks like she wants to eat me. Very aggressive. I'll try again in a few days.

Dennis.

[dennis waage]

pics 12 days freeswimming.
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Thanks for watching

[h4nh4n]

great!
please keep us posted

[timmy82]

Well done keep us posted would like to see what comes.

[dennis waage]

Sorry it took a while. I have to put theme all but 4 to sleep. They all had problems with there fins or gillplates. My fold for sure didnt have time to make sure the waterquality was good.
The good news is the parents have about 100 wriggles on the cone ready to go freeswimming about tomorrow morning. I have better hope for this batch because the water quality is better now.
The first batch were mostly leopards i think some blue diamonds and some snakeskins:D
Thanks for watching i post pictures soon.

Dennis.

[DiscusLoverJeff]

Good luck this time Dennis, hope all turn out ok.

[a volar]

Good luck, don't give up..

[sandy]

Best of luck :thumbup:

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[dennis waage]

Thank's everybody.
The wrigglers getting closer en closer together now. Some are swimming to the parents already.
Pic's are a bit of a problem because the parents are very agressive. So i will wait a few days till i think it's alright.

Dennis.

[kimbo]

Its so exciting to have fry! Good luck!

[dennis waage]

Pics,
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They are doing great and freeswimming right now.

Dennis.

[dennis waage]

They are doing great. Pic's taken yesterday 4 days freeswinning. About 60 babys left.
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Thanks for watching.

Dennis.

[arvinfilm]

So beautiful.
Please explain the type of feed and water siphon.

[dennis waage]

Under the tank is a eheim external filter.
The tank is divided in two by a white filtersponge en 2 piece's of glass. The inlet of the filter is on the right, outlet on the left. On the left side is also a airstone so there's plenty of oxygen in the water without to much water movement.
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I have given some bbs today. I think they eaten a little. Parents eaten mostly tropical 50+ gran.

[flashbang]

Should get some Blue Scorpions from the cross

[dennis waage]

Should get some Blue Scorpions from the cross
Are you kidding???? That's awesome. Ilove Blue Scorpions:)

[dennis waage]

Picture off a big and nice shaped male.
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Pic's off today 6 day old.
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Thank you for watching.

[dennis waage]

10 day's free swimming. They are doing great.
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Dennis

[dennis waage]

They are doing great. About 55-60 babys freeswimming for 19 days now.

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[dennis waage]

Better picture of the babys.
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[hironobu]

Is that how they get Blue Scorpions? Leopard x BD.

Very nice pictures Dennis, babies are coming along great!

[Jeff O]

Wow that male really towers over your BD. Great Job & nice pair.
-Jeff

[Larry Bugg]

Is that how they get Blue Scorpions? Leopard x BD.

Very nice pictures Dennis, babies are coming along great!

Blue Scorpions come from a solid blue x SS.

[dennis waage]

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Took the parents out. The babys are eating artemia salina (bbs i think you guys called it) about 10 times a day and some cyclops with spirulina.
These pictures are taken yesterday so 20 days old.
The last picture shows some snakeskins i think.

Thanks for watching. Ill try to post once a week to keep you updated.
Greetings Dennis.

[MKD]

I have similar pair and want to know how they turn out. Can you give any update? thank you,

[Vieira]

Nice big bellies.


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Took the parents out. The babys are eating artemia salina (bbs i think you guys called it) about 10 times a day and some cyclops with spirulina.
These pictures are taken yesterday so 20 days old.
The last picture shows some snakeskins i think.

Thanks for watching. Ill try to post once a week to keep you updated.
Greetings Dennis.

[dennis waage]

Sorry, it took so long. They have turn out really nice. 30% snake skin the others are all nine bars. I have sold most of them already. 18 beautiful babys left.
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5204_zps5d7879ba.jpg
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5200_zps1c583499.jpg
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5194_zpsac4f3bf4.jpg

Dennis

[MKD]

Very nice Dennis,
thank you for updating it.

[dennis waage]

Update. 13 weeks now en 8-9 cm. Not much colouring so far.
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5545_zps23deac14.jpg
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5543_zps36f7d958.jpg
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5535_zpsa3f8783a.jpg
Thanks for watching.

[John_Nicholson]

I have a quick question. you said 1/3 are SS and the rest are 9 barred. From the pictures it looks like at least some of them are barless BD's. I only ask because I am trying to work out the genetics that only give you 1/3 SS. I know you sold most before you could really tell what you had but what were the number of SS, 9 barred, and Barless?

Thanks.

-john

[dennis waage]

Hi John, I had 50 babys. there were about 34 nine bars and 14 ss. There were only 2 fish were i did not see any bars from te start but they were sold in the first selling round. De bareless you see on the pics above do show 14 bars from time to time but they are more vanishing now they get older. Do you no if bd show any 14 bars whene they are small?

[John_Nicholson]

if the fish that appear to be BD are carring the SS gene they should be blue scorpions when grown. It is just odd that they appear so solid at this size. I went back and looked at the pictures again and see what you are talking about. Now I have to figure out how you only got 1/3 SS. Some weird genetics or just a one time abnormality?

-john

[nc0gnet0]

The question is were the barless fish really barless or did they have bars, just not very prominent?

Rick

[dennis waage]

I no my bd female do have some snake in her. Its a strange fish anyway. sometimes she looks like an ocean green (really yellow fins) at other times she is a nice deep colour bd and some times she has some red in the fin on here back. Maybe thats wat cousing the strange genetics. I have bought miself a nice tank 400 liter so i can keep all my babyfish till they grow out. So next time we will see wat happens.

[dennis waage]

I am wondering when they will colour up? They grow really fast but very little colouring so far. I thought after 3 months they show more colour than this.

Greetings Dennis.

[John_Nicholson]

Be patient. They look to be doing well. Give it another 3 months.

-john

[dennis waage]

Okee John, il be patient. Now i am starting to give the parents a second time in the breeding tank.

Thanks Dennnis.

[MKD]

Hi Dennis, do you still have the frys and how do they look now? Thanks, Tony

[dennis waage]

Hi Tony, i have kept 4 nice ones. 1 snake and three 9 bars. I wil take some pics tomorow.

[dennis waage]

Here they are. Almost 5 months now and starting to colour.
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5659_zps5561ec93.jpg
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5664_zps8a6c35f6.jpg
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5668_zpsef53211a.jpg
The big reddish is from a previos batchh.

Thanks for watching.

[MKD]

Really nice and you do a great job. I separate the frys from parents and very excited to see how they turn out.

Thank you Dennis for pictures and sharing.


Tony

[dennis waage]

Update. I still have them all 4. They are now over 6 months and grow super. They start to color. I am very proud of them. What do you guys think of it.

Thanks for looking.

Pic 4 is the same fish as pic 1.
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5784_zps983a3b84.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF5784_zps983a3b84.jpg.html)
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5788_zps67dbe965.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF5788_zps67dbe965.jpg.html)
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5801_zps0c29353d.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF5801_zps0c29353d.jpg.html)
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5796_zpsfdbf5152.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF5796_zpsfdbf5152.jpg.html)
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5786_zps29a06249.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF5786_zps29a06249.jpg.html)

[MKD]

Nice and they look great. thank you Dennis

[Eddie]

Very nice looking fish!

And from the pair, the BD does not look like a blue diamond. More of a BD throwback and you can see the SS pattern in the edges of the fins. They threw some very nice fish.

[blueluv]

[QUOTE=dennis waage;1014700]Update. I still have them all 4. They are now over 6 months and grow super. They start to color. I am very proud of them. What do you guys think of it.

Thanks for looking
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Awesome! Looking good! Can you get a close up of this one? Thank you

[dennis waage]

Thank you all. I will take some more pictures later today.

I am trying to breed showquality fish.

Is it possible to breed some showquality fish from a not showquality pair. They don't have to be grand champion, but good quality fish that will do ok in championsships. Do i need to have 1 of the pair to be showquality or really both parrents must be showquality.

[dennis waage]

More picture's my 2 favorites.
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5845_zps61765293.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF5845_zps61765293.jpg.html)
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5831_zpsa1fe872c.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF5831_zpsa1fe872c.jpg.html)

[Eddie]

Thank you all. I will take some more pictures later today.

I am trying to breed showquality fish.

Is it possible to breed some showquality fish from a not showquality pair. They don't have to be grand champion, but good quality fish that will do ok in championsships. Do i need to have 1 of the pair to be showquality or really both parrents must be showquality.

Of course you can breed show quality fish. The line of the fish is merely the given genetics and you control the outcome. You'll have to decide on the category for fish like these since you kind of have a mixed bag. You might be able to enter an open class with the nine bars and the solid class for the snakeskin (scorpion). It can be tough to win a solid class with a scorpion but again, its all on how it grades in the other areas. A completely solid fish will likely get higher points...because it's totally solid. ;)

[dennis waage]

Thanks eddie. Do you think these 2 fishes come close to showquality?

[Eddie]

Thanks eddie. Do you think these 2 fishes come close to showquality?



That's not a statement I could make. They are good looking fish though. Still plenty of growing to do.

[dennis waage]

Thanks you all. I will post picture's every vieuw weeks so you can comment on that.

Dennis.

[Darren's Discus]

Beautiful.

[lidofishieboi]

Nice fish bro! Show quality or not they look outstanding. beautiful out come.

[dennis waage]

Update. The 4 fish are doing great. They are almost 8 months now. I think 5-5 1/2 inches.
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5894_zps719f8365.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF5894_zps719f8365.jpg.html)
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5891_zpsa697968f.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF5891_zpsa697968f.jpg.html)
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF5892_zpsf9a430a2.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF5892_zpsf9a430a2.jpg.html)
Thank yoy for watching.

[MKD]

Very nice and great job grow them out. Thank you Dennis for updating

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[PP_GBR]

Very nice, indeed.

[vendetta]

Do yo have photos of the babys when they growed?.. How did they look?

[dennis waage]

All the pictures i have are in this topic.
I took this picture today. This is one of my favourites, almost 9 months now.
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF6142_zps7bc7159e.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF6142_zps7bc7159e.jpg.html)
Still not much color but i think a great shape. What do you think about the color. Can it color up even after 9 months?

[DiscusLoverJeff]

Looks real nice Dennis. Great shape. It still has some growing to do so it might give you more color. Hard to say.

[marinum]

Very nice

[dennis waage]

From the same batch blue diamond snake.
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF6171_zps1907d09d.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF6171_zps1907d09d.jpg.html)

[joanstone]

I think they look great, beautiful.

[Mikielh1984]

Thanks for sharing. I am growing our some similar juveniles now from MKD and this gets me very excited about the potential of my fish. Looking forward to seeing more!

[maryalan]

really enjoyed reading this post :) we have our first set of babys from a BD and red turq(we think its a cross.) and we are going to keep a group and carnt wait to see the colours :)

[robinsanyal]

lovely.

[dennis waage]

How about this?
http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF6239_zpsb0413871.mp4.html

[dennis waage]

They are doing great.
This one getting more and more colour every day and is about 6 1/2 inch now. http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF6296_zps38e62ec5.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF6296_zps38e62ec5.jpg.html)

This one has less colour. but is very big. I think he or she is about 7 inch now. Its almost the biggest in my tank already. Not even 11 months old now.
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o731/denniswaage/DSCF6302_zps450642b3.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/denniswaage/media/DSCF6302_zps450642b3.jpg.html)

[Vieira]

They look great!


Richard