Discus swimming head down

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Fadelnaz
    Registered Member
    • May 2020
    • 25

    Discus swimming head down

    DISEASE QUESTIONNAIRE


    Problem: discus pair. One fish swimming head down but not all of the time.

    1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?

    The smaller discus started swimming with its head down. When food gets dropped, it swims normal for a couple of seconds but then goes back to swimming with its head down. This happened about 2 months ago and I’ve tried many treatments with no success. I believe she laid eggs during the breeding process and something happened. She has not laid eggs since then and I believe she is diseased.

    2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).

    swimming with head down

    3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.

    Metro for a week at 1 gram per 20 gallon daily. I also tried adding aquarium salt incase she was constipated but no change.

    Tank/Water

    4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.

    1 year old 30 gallon tank with 2 discus.

    5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).

    Every 4 days 80%z

    6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?

    barebottom and been running for over a year

    7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.

    I do not age

    8. What type/brand water conditioner do you use? Do you add it to the tank or aging barrel? How much do you use?

    I add prime to the tank during water change

    9. Parameters and water source;

    Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.

    - temp __82__

    - ph ___8_

    - ammonia reading __0__

    - nitrite reading ___0_

    - nitrate reading ___5_

    What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.

    - well water ____

    - municipal water ___100%_

    - RO water ____

    10. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.

    no

    11. Please tell us what you feed your fish and how often. This can be critical information for solving the problem so be as specific as you can.

    Beef heart mix twice daily

    12. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them.
    You do not have permission to view this gallery.
    This gallery has 6 photos.
  • bluelagoon
    Registered Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 2650
    • Halifax,Canada
    • Mervin

    #2
    Do you ever see gas bubbles after a large 80% unaged/ aerated WC?

    Comment

    • LizStreithorst
      Moderator
      • Jan 2005
      • 14503
      • Moselle, MS

      #3
      The treatment that I used that worked well was 1 tablespoon plain salt per 10 gallons of water in a hospital tank. Mervin alluded to gas bubbles after a WC. If you see them, you need to age your water with a heater and bubbler for 24 hrs before use. Aging water like this is a good idea, regardless.
      Mama Bear

      Comment

      • Fadelnaz
        Registered Member
        • May 2020
        • 25

        #4
        You know, I’ve always wanted to age my water. Maybe this will be the kick to get me started. I believe there are bubbles after a water change. I just hope this didn’t cause any permanent damage to the fish.

        Comment

        • LizStreithorst
          Moderator
          • Jan 2005
          • 14503
          • Moselle, MS

          #5
          Treat with plain salt. It worked for me.
          Mama Bear

          Comment

          • LizStreithorst
            Moderator
            • Jan 2005
            • 14503
            • Moselle, MS

            #6
            I just realized that I misstated the dosage! It's 1 tablespoon per gallon, not 1 per 10 gallons. It sounds like a huge amount of salt but the fish handle it just fine and it usually works unless the fish also has an internal infection. You can also lower the water level in the tank which will reduce the osmotic pressure. Sorry I messed up.
            Last edited by LizStreithorst; 06-30-2025, 05:05 PM.
            Mama Bear

            Comment

            • jeep
              Administrator
              • Jul 2002
              • 7813
              • O.P. KS
              • Brian

              #7
              Some people can get away without again their water and some cannot. It depends on your local water supply. I cannot because of the compressed gasses (nitrogen and co2) producing microbubbles in the incoming water supply. Co2 can create some large ph swings, especially in winter when the water is colder. Nitrogen and co2 can actually enter the fishes body through the gills and expand later, which can cause internal issues including ph and balance issues. This can also affect some fish differently, which could be why only one is affected. Think of a scuba diver with the bends. If he breathes compressed air in deep water, as he rises the nitrogen will expand at a faster than normal rate and the bubbles can get lodged in joints and lungs.

              Even if this is what's causing your issue or not, I would recommend aging your water. I use 55g barrels and in warmer weather I can fully age my water in just a few hours using a circulating pump. In winter it takes a bit longer, but my discus do much better when I age my water...

              Comment

              • bluelagoon
                Registered Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 2650
                • Halifax,Canada
                • Mervin

                #8
                AI says this.
                https://www.google.com/search?q=do+high+levels+of+CO2+affect+the+swim+bla dder+in+fish&gs_ivs=1

                Comment

                Working...