Brown Cameta and Heckel Cross

[arkmann]

I stumbled upon a fish store that stock wild discus. It’s already slim pickings but it is what it is. They stock 5-6” wild Cameta browns below for $180 and smaller heckel cross with something else for $120z

Does Cameta develop more color or is it mostly solid brown/red? I think it looks ok. Frankly, I think my Batata x jacareppa cross looks better. The heckel cross definitely looks like a heckel with the distinctive middle bar.

I think my iPhone 11 is enhancing the photos except the last two because they’re mine and they really look that nice

Photo 1 - Heckel Cross?
photo 2 - Cameta
Photo 3 - Cameta
Photo 4 and 5 - Batata x Jacarepa cross

[Second Hand Pat]

Hi, I am just going to give you my personal opinion. On the heckels cross I think those are just wild blues with a strong center bar. On the heckel crosses I have seem the center bar looks like a Heckel centerbar. Here's an example.



The Heckel center bar looks wider and appears that way on the Heckel crosses I have seen.

I think the Cameta should show more red after they settle. If your water is soft this could happen faster. Are the Batata x Jacarepa cross wild fish? Or are they from Discus X? If they are wild there are some nice looking fish in the last two pics.
Pat

[arkmann]

Thanks Pat. I wonder how those wild blues with a stronger center bar will look like in the future.

Will the Cameta develop more color/striations? My straight RO water is 6.5 pH. I prefer wilds of a different color since the 5 that I have will likely end up being blue with red base.

The last two are not from discus X. I bought them from Texas aqua as Batata x Jacarepa. They are definitely looking good. Great eaters too

[Second Hand Pat]

In my experience wilds always improve with time. If the Cameta are young they might develop more striations as they mature. Are the Batata x Jacarepa actually wild fish. Sounds like a domestic cross.
Pat

[arkmann]

Thanks Pat.i am on the fence on getting some but at this point, probably won’t.

At this point, who know if it is a wild cross of some sort. Sellers sell it depending on what their suppliers tell them what it is.

[Second Hand Pat]

Thanks Pat.i am on the fence on getting some but at this point, probably won’t.

At this point, who know if it is a wild cross of some sort. Sellers sell it depending on what their suppliers tell them what it is.

I do know the Batata x Jacarepa cross come from DiscusX via Discus Hans. Hans may still sell to fish stores also. I think the Batata x Jacarepa is considered a wild cross.
Pat

[arkmann]

Thanks again dear sir. Just for my own information, wild cross is the result of a wild and domestic getting it on right?

I do know the Batata x Jacarepa cross come from DiscusX via Discus Hans. Hans may still sell to fish stores also. I think the Batata x Jacarepa is considered a wild cross.
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

Thanks again dear sir. Just for my own information, wild cross is the result of a wild and domestic getting it on right?

Generally true but what if you had a two wilds, say a wild green and a wild blue pair up. That too is a wild cross? Right!
Pat

[blue heckel]

I decided to try discus again after a 5 year layoff due to health reasons. My last fish came from snookin21 but I don't think he's around anymore. I wanted some tank breed discus that looked like wilds so I tried the Red Batata x Jacarecappa cross discus sold by Discus Hans. I bought 5 of them, 3" size; what he sent was more like 4" fish. I have to admit they are truly gorgeous fish, acclimated to my 40 gal. breeder tank in just 2-3 days. Discus Hans is a first-class dealer and I'm glad I ordered from him.

[danotaylor]

Why not start a new thread and throw some pics up