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  • Zorz
    Registered Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 9
    • Zagreb
    • Jurica

    Heckel Project from Croatia

    Hello all,

    Few weeks ago i started my new project - Heckel project! 8 young Symphysodon Discus from Rio Negro arrived in my tank in January.
    Four on size cca 6-7 cm and four on 10-12 cm.

    Placed in my 150 gal tank (cca 620 liters) dimensions 110x75x75 cm. They will be there until they grow a little bit more. Plan is to move them in new bigger tank, cca 350 gallons hopefully at the end of this year.

    Water paremeterswhic i can measure, Ph cca 6.5, Conductivity 300 µS, temperature 30 °C, NO3 cca 10 mg/l. Not ideal for them, but i will try to lower hardness, pH and conductivity in next few weeks.

    Here are few photos ot the fish from the first day of arrival.

    I will try to update photos/videos from time to time.

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  • Zorz
    Registered Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 9
    • Zagreb
    • Jurica

    #2
    Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

    Video on week after arrival.
    Sorry for low quality and dark video, there was only few Watts of light at that time.

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    • Mattgoanna
      Registered Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 198
      • Melbourne, Australia
      • Matt

      #3
      Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

      Very nice fish. What species are the Satanoperca?

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      • Zorz
        Registered Member
        • Dec 2016
        • 9
        • Zagreb
        • Jurica

        #4
        Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

        Originally posted by Mattgoanna
        Very nice fish. What species are the Satanoperca?
        Thanks!

        Satanopercas are Leucosticta.
        But they are not anymore in the tank. Heckels needs peace in the tank if i whant them to grow fine. Satanopercas was pretty big, and still growing.
        Altrough i like to have some "eartheater" in my tank because they are useful for keeping tank bottom clean. Maybe i will buy some Satanoperca or Geophagos sp. once Heckels became's bigger.

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        • Mattgoanna
          Registered Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 198
          • Melbourne, Australia
          • Matt

          #5
          Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

          I removed my earth eaters for the same reason. I miss them, but the Discus come first.

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          • DatDiscusDude
            Registered Member
            • Feb 2017
            • 244
            • DatDiscusDude

            #6
            Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

            Exceptionally beautiful!

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            • aray
              Registered Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 4

              #7
              Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

              Hi,what are you doing for maintaining ph and how you plan to lower it?

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              • DatDiscusDude
                Registered Member
                • Feb 2017
                • 244
                • DatDiscusDude

                #8
                Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

                I have always liked geo's and those sorts. You guys are saying that they can be too aggressive for discus?

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                • Zorz
                  Registered Member
                  • Dec 2016
                  • 9
                  • Zagreb
                  • Jurica

                  #9
                  Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

                  Originally posted by aray
                  Hi,what are you doing for maintaining ph and how you plan to lower it?
                  At the moment i have carbonate hardness cca 6-8. This is what keeps pH stable.
                  With low hardness, pH is unstable an can be lower. Ussualy i just put some peat and a lot of leaves in the sump. This can slowly lower pH value and also make nice tea color water. Heckels love it. Darker water makes them happy. They feel safe.
                  Last edited by Zorz; 03-15-2017, 04:33 PM.

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                  • Zorz
                    Registered Member
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 9
                    • Zagreb
                    • Jurica

                    #10
                    Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

                    Originally posted by DatDiscusDude
                    I have always liked geo's and those sorts. You guys are saying that they can be too aggressive for discus?
                    No, not aggressive. From my experience with Discus and altums, they are not aggresive to each other. I did keep both species with Satanoperca or Geophagos, and never saw any aggression. But those species are big and always hungry. They can eat a lot and if you have small discus with them you need to feed them much more than ussualy. This means more clean water and more job to keep the parameters ok.

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                    • Zorz
                      Registered Member
                      • Dec 2016
                      • 9
                      • Zagreb
                      • Jurica

                      #11
                      Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

                      New video after 6 weeks in tank..

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                      • Zorz
                        Registered Member
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 9
                        • Zagreb
                        • Jurica

                        #12
                        Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

                        One year pass, and my Heckels are still with me. Now bigger and with nice color. I made some selection, and 2 pcs I gave to my friend. The other 6 pcs is still in 620 liter tank, and the plan for next few month is to move them in bigger tank, 1300 liters.

                        Water parameters:
                        Temperature 28.5 degrees C
                        Kh - 0-1
                        pH 5.0
                        Coductivity 40 microSiemens/cm
                        Attached Files

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                        • Willie
                          Silver Member

                          • May 2002
                          • 4346
                          • St Paul
                          • Willie

                          #13
                          Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

                          These are the roundest Heckels I've seen in a long time. Absolutely gorgeous.

                          Willie
                          At my age, everything is irritating.

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                          • DiscusBR
                            Registered Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 2216
                            • New Orleans
                            • Mauro

                            #14
                            Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

                            Originally posted by Willie
                            These are the roundest Heckels I've seen in a long time. Absolutely gorgeous.

                            Willie
                            +1

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                            • tolga
                              Registered Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 153
                              • London

                              #15
                              Re: Heckel Project from Croatia

                              They are beautiful! The conductivity of 40 micro Siemens which is very low, appears to have made a positive impact on these heckels. Are you using pure RO water? It would be great to know how you prepare your water. Also could the 350 gallon be too big for just eight heckel? I would be tempted to add some more...

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