Arturo's Contest Fish

[Silver]

Hi everyone! first I'd like to start showing the fish:


The male is a "White Diamond" (that was the strain or name given to the fish I don't know any background of the fish sorry)




The female is a "Velvet Red" (Is the one on the bottom)

[rdiscus]

Re: Arturo's Contest Fish

Why white diamond has yellow and blue on it? and female look like red melon to me ...

[nc0gnet0]

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Red melons don't have white faces rdiscus. Should get some red/whites out of this cross with maybe some random yellow thrown in. alot will depend on the genetics of the white diamond, but it does appear to be pb based (as is the velvet red).

Rick

[Silver]

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Water parameters:

* PH: 6.22
* Conductivity: 120 µs/cm
* Temperature: 83 F.

06-17-12

06-18-12

06-18-12

[Silver]

Re: Arturo's Contest Fish

Why white diamond has yellow and blue on it? and female look like red melon to me ...

To be honest I don't know anything about the white diamond I gotit when it was around 3" to me its just a white fish with a blue halo but idk the genetics on it..

Red melons don't have white faces rdiscus. Should get some red/whites out of this cross with maybe some random yellow thrown in. alot will depend on the genetics of the white diamond, but it does appear to be pb based (as is the velvet red).

Rick

Thanks for your help here Rick, its good to have people like you around here that knows genetics and have some good knowledge thanks again..

[Skip]

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Nice!!! keep updating!

[Silver]

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I'm sorry for the quality of pictures they were taken with my cell but that's the only prof I have from now on I will take better pics I promise..

06-27-12 Free swimming

06-29-12. 2 days after free swimming

[Silver]

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Nice!!! keep updating!

Thanks... I will but for now I have to go to do WCS lol.

[nc0gnet0]

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Am I seeing a 50% split between white based and darker fry?

Rick

[jaykne]

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Am I seeing a 50% split between white based and darker fry?

Rick

I think your right Rick, and from what I know about white base they are as strong as pigeon. So if that is the case than the darker ones are what pigeon's that are really peppered? Something else I wonder is the male does look white base, but don't white base stay solid white I know they have the blue glow, but I thought other than that they were solid white. I don't know that is one I know very little about is white based fish, that is why I told Arturo to post it here to get other people in that know more about what this could be?

[xxbenjamminxx]

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Awesome looking fish no matter what name it is given. Keep the pics coming for sure.

[Second Hand Pat]

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Arturo, glad to see you have entered the contest. It was sure nice to have meet you at the show. Nice parents BTW

[rdiscus]

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Red melons don't have white faces rdiscus. Rick

Who say Red melons don't have white faces? What is this ?

[nc0gnet0]

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I think your right Rick, and from what I know about white base they are as strong as pigeon. So if that is the case than the darker ones are what pigeon's that are really peppered?

I am pretty sure all it means at this point is the male (white daimond) is heterozygous for the white gene (only has one). The white based fish do have a tendeny to mask pepper, but it's to early to tell if the darker ones are heavily peppered. They could be as clean as a whistle, they just don't have the white gene.

Something else I wonder is the male does look white base, but don't white base stay solid white I know they have the blue glow, but I thought other than that they were solid white. I don't know that is one I know very little about is white based fish, that is why I told Arturo to post it here to get other people in that know more about what this could be?

There are several white based pb that are not solid white, red/whites and ogon yellows to name a few.

[nc0gnet0]

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Who say Red melons don't have white faces? What is this ?

Looks like a velvet red

When I thihnk red melon I think of a fish like this:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?94493-Please-rate-my-red-melon-%28female%29&p=873956#post873956

Alot of breeders will apply a different name when the face is white. In your example the breeder choose not to. Long story short, they are very simular (velvet red, red melon, etc) and it's all part of the name game.

Rick